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Edward

Edward Report 30 Oct 2020 21:21

Hi, I am trying to find ancestors of my father in laws grandmother Alice Maud Sanders nee Styles, all I know is she was born in Portsea Island, Hampshire.
her family disowned her when she was older. She was born in 1876.
Any information would be received with thanks.

Edward Searle.

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Mother was a White:

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
STYLES, ALICE MAUD WHITE
GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in PORTSEA ISLAND Volume 02B Page 464

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Marriages Dec 1867
STYLES George Portsea 2b 836
White Elizabeth Portsea 2b 836

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Name: Alice Maud Styles
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1881
Event Place: Portsea, Hampshire, England
Registration District: Portsea Island
Gender: Female
Age: 4
Marital Status: Single
Marital Status (Original): Single
Occupation: Gunners Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated): 1877
Birthplace: Southsea, Hampshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Page Number: 10
Registration Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 1162/140
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Affiliate Image Identifier: GBC/1881/4307346/00285&parentid=GBC/1881/0005610752


Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
George Styles Head M 37 Merrow, Surrey, England Gunner R M Artillery
Elizabeth Styles Wife F 33 New Forest, Hampshire, England
George James Styles Son M 13 Southsea, Hampshire, England
Charles Styles Son M 10 Southsea, Hampshire, England
Alice Maud Styles Daughter F 4 Southsea, Hampshire, England
Emily Jane Styles Daughter F 0 Southsea, Hampshire, England

Line Number: 12
GS Film Number: 101774537
Digital Folder Number: 101774537
Image Number: 00285

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Name: George Styles
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Event Place: Portsea, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Portsea, Hampshire, England
Sub-District: Landport
Enumeration District: 53
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Gunner R M A
Birth Year (Estimated): 1844
Birthplace: Merrow, Surrey
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Affiliate Image Identifier: GBC/1871/1148/0109


Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
George Styles Head M 27 Merrow, Surrey
Elizabeth Styles Wife F 23 Lyndhurst, Hampshire
George J Styles Son M 2 Southsea, Hampshire
Charles Styles Son M 0 Southsea, Hampshire

Household ID: 329
Entry Number: 9
GS Film Number: 000827789
Digital Folder Number: 004318163
Image Number: 00318
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: N04176-6

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George with parents:

Name: George Styles
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1851
Event Place: Holy Trinity Guild., Surrey, England
Registration District: Guildford
Residence Note: Lyons Gateway
Gender: Male
Age: 7
Occupation: Scholar
Birth Year (Estimated): 1844
Birthplace: Merrow, Surry
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Page Number: 42
Registration Number: HO107
Piece/Folio: 1594 / 559
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Affiliate Image Identifier: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC/1851/4294913/01094&parentid=GBC/1851/0005322802


Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
James Styles Head M 36 Clandon, Surry
Eliza Styles Wife F 31 Kinkford, Sussex
George Styles Son M 7 Merrow, Surry
James Styles Son M 3 Stoke, Surry
Henry Styles Son M 1 Stoke, Surry

Household ID: 1094444
Line Number: 3
GS Film Number: 101795879
Digital Folder Number: 101795879
Image Number: 01094


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Elizabeth?

Name: Elizabeth White
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Event Place: Alverstoke, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): St Johns Forton, Alverstoke, Hampshire, England
County: Hampshire
Parish: Alverstoke
Ecclesiastical Parish: St Johns Forton
Registration District: Alverstoke
Residence Note: Pound Lane
Gender: Female
Age: 13
Marital Status: Single
Birth Year (Estimated): 1848
Birthplace: Lyndhurst,
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Daughter
Page Number: 14
Registration Number: RG09
Piece/Folio: 646 / 67
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Affiliate Image Identifier: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC/1861/0646/00796A&parentid=GBC/1861/0004153564


Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
George White Head M 32 Lyndhurst,
Jane White Wife F 35 Lyndhurst,
Charles White Son M 16 Lyndhurst,
Elizabeth White Daughter F 13 Lyndhurst,
Mary W W White Daughter F 9 Guernsey,
Jane White Daughter F 6 Southampton,
George White Son M 4 South Stoneham,
Alice C J C J White Daughter F 1 Twyford,

Household ID: 902670
Line Number: 9
GS Film Number: 101816411
Digital Folder Number: 101816411
Image Number: 00234

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greyghost Report 30 Oct 2020 22:48

Hampshire, Portsmouth Baptisms

First name(s) Alice Maud
Last name Styles
Birth year -
Baptism year 1885
Baptism date 24 May 1885
Baptism place Milton
Dedication St James
Denomination Anglican
Residence 21 Exmouter Road
Father's first name(s) George
Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth
County Hampshire
Country England
Register type Baptisms
Register year range 1871-1886
Archive reference CHU 47/1A/3
Page 84
Archive
Portsmouth History Centre

Image - 21 Exmouth Road. Father a Labourer

Also baptised same day - Emily Jane Styles

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greyghost Report 30 Oct 2020 22:56

Hampshire, Portsmouth Marriages

First name(s) George
Last name Styles
Age 24
Birth year 1843
Denomination Anglican
Marital status Bachelor
Occupation Gunner
Residence H M S Warrier
Marriage year 1867
Marriage date 25 Dec 1867
Marriage place Portsea, St Mary
Dedication St Mary
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name White
Spouse's age 19
Spouse's birth year 1848
Spouse's marital status Spinster
Spouse's residence Oxford St
Father's first name(s) James
Father's last name Styles
Father's occupation Baker
Spouse's father's first name(s) George
Spouse's father's last name White
Spouse's father's occupation Laborer
Witness 1 Jane White
Witness 2 George White
County Hampshire
Country England
Register type Marriages
Register year range 1867-1868
Archive reference CHU 3/1D/67
Archive
Portsmouth History Centre

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Wait a minute! Alice Maud Styles born in 1876 married Edward Cooke and died as Alice M Cooke.

Name: Alice Maud Cooke
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Event Place: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom
County: Hampshire
Parish: Portsmouth
Sub-District: Kingston And East Southsea
Sub-District Number: 2
District Number: 90
Enumeration District: 10
Registration District: Portsmouth
Gender: Female
Age: 34
Marital Status: Married
Marital Status (Original): MARRIED
Number in Family: 6
Birth Year (Estimated): 1877
Birthplace: Eastney Portsmouth
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Schedule Type: 291
Page Number: 1
Registration Number: RG14
Piece/Folio: 581
Affiliate Record Identifier: GBC/1911/RG14/05531/0581/2


Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Edward Cooke Head M 38 Dalston London, London
Alice Maud Cooke Wife F 34 Eastney Portsmouth
Edward George Cooke Son M 14 Southsea Portsmouth
Walter Charles Cooke Son M 12 Southsea Portsmouth
Ernest Frederick Cooke Son M 10 Southsea Portsmouth
Gladys Maud Cooke Daughter F 8 Southsea Portsmouth
Lilian May Cooke Daughter F 5 Southsea Portsmouth

Record Type: Household
Line Number: 2

Deaths Mar 1953
COOKE Alice M 76 Portsmouth 6b 572

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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Oct 2020 06:05

She was still with Edward in 1939


31 Rochester Road, Portsmouth, Portsmouth C.B., Hampshire, England


Edward Cooke 04 Jan 1873 Male Pensioner Railway ? Married 70 1
Alice M Cooke 26 Sep 1876 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 70 2
Ieren B Booth (Cooke) 16 Sep 1915 Female Shorthand Typist ? Single 70 3
Ref: RG101/2274B/004/26 Letter Code: EBJZ
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Births Dec 1915
Cooke Irene B Styles Portsmouth 2b 671

No ref to sanders

Death sept 1949
Cooke Edward 76 Portsmouth 6b 365

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If I'm correct, this is your father in law's mother:

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
SANDERS, BESSIE HILLS
GRO Reference: 1906 D Quarter in SOUTH MOLTON Volume 05B Page 382

MMN is Hills.

This looks to be her in 1911:

Name: Bessie Sanders
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Event Place: East Buckland, Devon, England, United Kingdom
County: Devonshire
Parish: East Buckland
Sub-District: South Molton
Sub-District Number: 2
District Number: 283
Enumeration District: 7
Registration District: South Molton
Gender: Female
Age: 4
Number in Family: 4
Birth Year (Estimated): 1907
Birthplace: Charles, Devonshire
Relationship to Head of Household: Niece
Schedule Type: 16
Page Number: 1
Registration Number: RG14

Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
George Hill Head M 36 North Molton, Devonshire
Ellen Hill Wife F 44 Charles, Devonshire
Lucy Hill Sister F 17 South Molton, Devonshire
Bessie Sanders Niece F 4 Charles, Devonshire

George appears to have married Ellen Crocker Sanders. It's unclear whether Bessie is from his side of the family or Ellens.

Rose

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There's this but it's not clear how this related to Bessie:

Name: George Henry Sanders
Event Type: Marriage Notice
Event Date: 25 Sep 1896
Event Place: Exeter, Devon, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Exeter, Devon, England
Event Place Note: 113-9133
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Alice Maud Mary Stiles
Spouse's Gender: Female
Newspaper: Western Times
Page Number: 5
Publication Date: 25 Sep 1896
Affiliate Record Type: Marriage

Other information in the record of George Henry Sanders
Name: George Henry Sanders
Event Type: Marriage Notice
Event Date: 25 Sep 1896
Event Place: Exeter, Devon, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Exeter, Devon, England
Event Place Note: 113-9133
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Alice Maud Mary Stiles
Spouse's Gender: Female
Newspaper: Western Times
Page Number: 5
Publication Date: 25 Sep 1896
Affiliate Record Type: Marriage

Digital Folder Number: 102117898
Image Number: 00228

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Oct 2020 10:13

Edward

Which of your father-in-law’s parents had Alice for a mother?

When and where was that person born?

When and where did Alice die?

What research have you done yourself?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Oct 2020 10:22

Arthur R Gill, MMN Sanders

Mansell Gill m. Bessie Sanders. JFM 1929

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Someone has compiled a WikiTree, but there are no certificates for Bessie.

Edward needs to get her marriage certificate and work back from there. There are several Hill/Sanders marriages in South Molton.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Sanders-15205

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Oct 2020 11:41

Mansell Gill is in the poster’s GR tree

1939

Tossells Barton, South Molton, South Molton R.D., Devon, England
Mansell Gill 28 Nov 1898 Male Farmer Married 13 1
Bessie Gill 23 Dec 1906 Female Household Duties Married 13 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
Wilfred J Gill 25 Oct 1931 Male At School Single 13 4

First name(s) BESSIE
Last name GILL
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1907
Age 56
Death quarter 4
Death year 1963
District Barnstaple

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Oct 2020 13:42

Name: George Hill
Death Date: 8 Mar 1940
Death Place: Devon, England
Probate Date: 23 May 1940
Probate Registry: London, England

Probate to Bessie (wife of Mansell Gill)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Oct 2020 13:46

Edward has Alice in his GR tree - it would be interesting to see who he has as her husband

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Oct 2020 13:54



Ellen Crocker (Hill) before her marriage to George
1871
Name: George Saunders
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: 1835
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Selworthy Devon England
Civil Parish: Charles
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Registration District: South Molton
Sub-registration District: South Molton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household Schedule Number: 11
Piece: 2181
Folio: 65
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
George Saunders 36
Maria Saunders 35
Maria Saunders 7
Ellen C Saunders 6
George H Saunders 1


Name: Maria Crocker
Registration Year: 1856
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: South Molton
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 787
Maria Crocker
George Sanders