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27 Jul 2025 18:19 |
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Thank you for copying the above Argyll, I appreciate your help.
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26 Jul 2025 19:41 |
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From BNA, manipulating without a sub, therefore it's a mangled computer transcription -
Police Court. Henry Nesbitt (31) was charged with concealing an Army deserter.—Mr. A. Geipel appeared for the defence. P.C. Mahoney stated that he was on night duty March 3I, when he observed light in the window of Walter Wilson's shop [?] Musgrave Street. He entered the defendant’s yard, which was adjoining, and saw a man on the roof of an outbuilding. Defendant came out of his house with a lighted candle, and attired only in his shirt, and called to the man on the roof, “Where are you? Come away, man; get down here.” Then he went into the house and up to the staircase window, from which he called to the man who was escaping. “Away through here.” The man jumped, from the roof on which he had been lying, to the scullery roof, and went through the staircase window. Witness ran upstairs and asked where the man was. Defendant replied. “He stunned me and got away.” In witness’s opinion, however, defendant was only feigning being stunned. Added that he knew defendant's nephew, Fredk. Mincher, to be a deserter. Mrs. Nesbitt, mother of the defendant, stated that she could not swear to this, she did not see his face. She merely jumped to the conclusion it might be he, but she had no right do so. P.C. spoke of arresting Frederick Mincher as a deserter at 31 Alexandra Street where his wife lived. He was hiding under bed. Witness added that it was from Mrs Nesbitt that he first learnt that Mincher was a deserter. Mr. [?] submitted that there was no case for him to answer. Defendant lived with his mother in Bark Musgrave Street, next door to Wilson’s shop. Shop was broken into; man was seen on roof of some outbuildings; and Nesbitt hearing the disturbance, came down, met the police officers at the door and did what he could to help them calling to the man “ Come out of that, it’s a fair cop.’* He then rushed upstairs to the window. The man jumped through this very window, knocked defendant on one side and, passing through the old people’s bedroom, made his escape through window the front. Nesbitt was arrested for assisting in the shopbreaking, but was released in consequence of the death his father. He was, however, before the magistrates several times, the case on each occasion being adjourned, and finally the charge being dropped. Now the police brought this charge against him. There was, however, contended, no evidence to support such a charge. It was not known even the man on the roof was deserter. All that was known was that Mincher, defendant’s nephew, a deserter, but there was nothing show he was there. The magistrates dismissed the case. Mr. Geipel then applied for costs against the police. Supt. McDonald urged that this would be unfair, so the Mayor intimated that the magistrates considered that the police were quite justified in bringing the case and not, therefore, grant costs. Frederick Mincher was then charged with being deserter, and was aunsanded [remanded ?] to await an escort. Supt. McDonald intimated that in view of the case that had just been heard, would [oner no cone] on further charge against shopbreaking. This charge was accordingly withdrawn.
Published: Monday 27 May 1918 Newspaper: Hartlepool Northern Daily Mail
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26 Jul 2025 19:28 |
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Thank you Erika, I had two Fredericks, father and son, although father would have been in his forties. Young Frederick had a brother Henry Nesbit Mincher, so that sorts that out. Thank you again for looking.
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26 Jul 2025 19:00 |
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It’s very long article
Essentially, he was arrested at 31 Alexandra Street, where his wife lived. He was hiding under a bed. He was 22 years of age His grandmother was a Mrs Nesbitt - apparently
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Marian
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26 Jul 2025 18:36 |
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Hello. On FMP newspapers dated 27 May 1918 in the Hartlepool Daily Mail is an article for Frederick Mincher who was arrested as a deserter. Could someone please take a look at the article for the fully story etc. Thank you.
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Marian
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11 Oct 2020 20:54 |
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Thank you Argyl. I did laugh when I saw the trial record for John.
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11 Oct 2020 20:31 |
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John's children:
Mary Mincher in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Mary Mincher Gender: Female Baptism Date: 17 Jan 1868 Baptism Place: St. Peters, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Father: John Mincher Mother: Martha
Elizabeth Mincher in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Elizabeth Mincher Baptism Date: 11 Sep 1861 Baptism Place: St. James', Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Father: John Mincher Mother: Martha
MINCHER, MARY mms BAXTER GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 459
MINCHER, SARAH mms BAXTER GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 463
MINCHER, ELIZABETH mms BAXTER GRO Reference: 1861 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 432
Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%) Baxter Martha Wolverhampton 6b 748 Mincher John Wolverhampton 6b 748
John Mincher in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: John Mincher Gender: Male Marital status: Single Marriage Date: 19 Nov 1860 Marriage Place: St. James, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Father: Addison Mincher <<<<<<<<<<<<< Spouse: Martha Baxter
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11 Oct 2020 20:20 |
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Keeping up the family reputation??
John Mincher in the England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 Name: John Mincher Date of Trial: 21 Jul 1852 Trial Year: 1852 Location of Trial: Staffordshire, England Sentence: Imprisonment
15 months for housebreaking and larceny.
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11 Oct 2020 20:15 |
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John Mincher in the 1841 England Census Name: John Mincher Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831 Gender: Male Where born: Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Enville Hundred: South Seisdon County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address: Occupation: View image Registration District: Wolverhampton Sub-registration District: Kinver Neighbors: Piece: 1002 Book: 7 Folio: 22 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Wm Aingsworth 30 - farmer Sarah Jones 15 Richard Day 15 John Goatley 60 John Mincher 10 - male servant
John Mencher in the 1871 England Census Name: John Mencher [John Mincher] Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: 1831 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Ewville Worcestershire England Civil Parish: Wolverhampton Ecclesiastical parish: St George Town: Wolverhampton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration District: Wolverhampton Sub-registration District: Wolverhampton Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 28 Household Schedule Number: 95 Piece: 2939 Folio: 100 Page Number: 16 Household Members: Name Age John Mencher 40 Martha Mencher 23 Elisabeth Mencher 10 Sarah Mencher 5 Mary Mencher 3
Enville is about 5 miles from Bobbington.
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Marian
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11 Oct 2020 20:15 |
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Thanks safc. Honeymoon baby! Addison snr was baptised at Holy Cross, Bobbington. Illegitimate son of Margaret. The variations on Mincher are a real hindrance.
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Abby
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11 Oct 2020 18:59 |
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Record Transcription: Staffordshire Baptisms Learn about this record set What can I do with this record? View Image Add To Tree Report an Error First name(s) John Last name Minchal Baptism year 1829 Baptism date 26 Apr 1829 Baptism place Bobbington, Holy Cross Denomination Anglican Father's first name(s) Addison Mother's first name(s) Sarah County Staffordshire Country England Archive reference D5148/1/1 Page 27 Register type Baptism Record set Staffordshire Baptisms Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from England, Great Britain
Transcriptions © Findmypast 2015
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Marian
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11 Oct 2020 18:46 |
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I'm glad we haven't got a Michael There's enough names with Addison/Joseph/Mincher/Evans lol.
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Abby
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11 Oct 2020 18:39 |
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my mistake
yes image does say richard
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Marian
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11 Oct 2020 18:33 |
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Thank you safc. I have Richard Mincher baptised 20 October 1833 at Kinver parents Addison and Sarah. This is off the Family Search site.
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Abby
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11 Oct 2020 18:04 |
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theres a michael mincher baptism october 20th 1833 in kinver
addison and sarah abode cheeks hill
could michael be addison ????
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11 Oct 2020 17:36 |
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Record Transcription: 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
35, Church Street, Heath Town, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Joseph C Mincher Head Married Male 32 1869 Iron Shearer Kinver, Worcestershire, England Nellie Mincher Wife Married Female 32 1869 - Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Joseph C Mincher Son Single Male 5 1896 - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Joseph Mincher Grand Father Widower Male 68 1833 - Kinver, Worcestershire, England
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11 Oct 2020 17:33 |
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Burial entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field (only fields with a value are shown) Value County Staffordshire Place (Links to more information) Wolverhampton Church name (Links to more information) Merridale Cemetery Register type (Links to more information) Transcript Burial date 07 Jun 1865 Burial person forename Margaret Elizabeth Relationship dau of Male relative forename Joseph Burial person surname MINCHER Person age 2y6m Burial person abode Monmore Green Notes Parish: St. Matthew. Occupation: Puddler. Grave: 9578a. Reg. No.: G2/03361 Transcribed by Michael Clarke File line number 2441
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11 Oct 2020 17:29 |
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Hello again. The following is from Greyghost post above:
MINCHER, MARGARET ELIZABETH EVANS - NO - her Bap. on freereg, parents Harrison and Elizabeth GRO Reference: 1862 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 398
I think Addison may have been mistranscribed as Harrison. There is a burial for Margaret Elizabeth at Merridale Cemetery, Wolverhampton on 7 June 1865. Could someone take a look at the burial to see if father is Harrison, Addison or Joseph. Thanks.
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Marian
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11 Oct 2020 15:33 |
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Just got in and seen the above. Thank you. I wouldn't have found the 1891 census entry with those spellings.
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11 Oct 2020 14:01 |
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Name: Addison Mincher Gender: Male Marriage Date: 7 Jul 1851 Marriage Place: Saint Matthew, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England Spouse: Elizabeth Evans
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Name: Elizabeth Mincher Date of Trial: 23 Jul 1867 Trial Year: 1867 Location of Trial: Staffordshire, England Sentence: Imprisonment Crime: Endeavouring to conceal the birth of her child Date of Execution or Release: See Image
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