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Marian

Marian Report 27 Jul 2025 18:19

Thank you for copying the above Argyll, I appreciate your help.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Jul 2025 19:41

From BNA, manipulating without a sub, therefore it's a mangled computer transcription -

Police Court.
Henry Nesbitt (31) was charged with concealing an Army deserter.—Mr. A. Geipel appeared for the defence. P.C. Mahoney stated that he was on night duty March 3I, when he observed light in the window of Walter Wilson's shop [?] Musgrave Street. He entered the defendant’s yard, which was adjoining, and saw a man on the roof of an outbuilding. Defendant came out of his house with a lighted candle, and attired only in his shirt, and called to the man on the roof, “Where are you? Come away, man; get down here.” Then he went into the house and up to the staircase window, from which he called to the man who was escaping. “Away through here.” The man jumped, from the roof on which he had been lying, to the scullery roof, and went through the staircase window. Witness ran upstairs and asked where the man was. Defendant replied. “He stunned me and got away.” In witness’s opinion, however, defendant was only feigning being stunned. Added that he knew defendant's nephew, Fredk. Mincher, to be a deserter.
Mrs. Nesbitt, mother of the defendant, stated that she could not swear to this, she did not see his face. She merely jumped to the conclusion it might be he, but she had no right do so.
P.C. spoke of arresting Frederick Mincher as a deserter at 31 Alexandra Street where his wife lived. He was hiding under bed. Witness added that it was from Mrs Nesbitt that he first learnt that Mincher was a deserter. Mr. [?] submitted that there was no case for him to answer. Defendant lived with his mother in Bark Musgrave Street, next door to Wilson’s shop. Shop was broken into; man was seen on roof of some outbuildings; and Nesbitt hearing the disturbance, came down, met the police officers at the door and did what he could to help them calling to the man “ Come out of that, it’s a fair cop.’* He then rushed upstairs to the window.
The man jumped through this very window, knocked defendant on one side and, passing through the old people’s bedroom, made his escape through window the front. Nesbitt was arrested for assisting in the shopbreaking, but was released in consequence of the death his father.
He was, however, before the magistrates several times, the case on each occasion being adjourned, and finally the charge being dropped. Now the police brought this charge against him. There was, however, contended, no evidence to support such a charge. It was not known even the man on the roof was deserter. All that was known was that Mincher, defendant’s nephew, a deserter, but there was nothing show he was there. The magistrates dismissed the case.
Mr. Geipel then applied for costs against the police.
Supt. McDonald urged that this would be unfair, so the Mayor intimated that the magistrates considered that the police were quite justified in bringing the case and not, therefore, grant costs. Frederick Mincher was then charged with being deserter, and was aunsanded [remanded ?] to await an escort.
Supt. McDonald intimated that in view of the case that had just been heard, would [oner no cone] on further charge against shopbreaking. This charge was accordingly withdrawn.


Published: Monday 27 May 1918
Newspaper: Hartlepool Northern Daily Mail

Marian

Marian Report 26 Jul 2025 19:28

Thank you Erika, I had two Fredericks, father and son, although father would have been in his forties. Young Frederick had a brother Henry Nesbit Mincher, so that sorts that out. Thank you again for looking.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Jul 2025 19:00

It’s very long article

Essentially, he was arrested at 31 Alexandra Street, where his wife lived. He was hiding under a bed. He was 22 years of age
His grandmother was a Mrs Nesbitt - apparently

Marian

Marian Report 26 Jul 2025 18:36

Hello. On FMP newspapers dated 27 May 1918 in the Hartlepool Daily Mail is an article for Frederick Mincher who was arrested as a deserter. Could someone please take a look at the article for the fully story etc. Thank you.

Marian

Marian Report 11 Oct 2020 20:54

Thank you Argyl. I did laugh when I saw the trial record for John.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Oct 2020 20:31

John's children:

Mary Mincher
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Mary Mincher
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 17 Jan 1868
Baptism Place: St. Peters, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Father: John Mincher
Mother: Martha


Elizabeth Mincher
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Elizabeth Mincher
Baptism Date: 11 Sep 1861
Baptism Place: St. James', Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Father: John Mincher
Mother: Martha


MINCHER, MARY mms BAXTER
GRO Reference: 1868 M Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 459

MINCHER, SARAH mms BAXTER
GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 463

MINCHER, ELIZABETH mms BAXTER
GRO Reference: 1861 S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 432



Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%)
Baxter Martha Wolverhampton 6b 748
Mincher John Wolverhampton 6b 748


John Mincher
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: John Mincher
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Marriage Date: 19 Nov 1860
Marriage Place: St. James, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Father: Addison Mincher <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Spouse: Martha Baxter

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Oct 2020 20:20

Keeping up the family reputation??

John Mincher
in the England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name: John Mincher
Date of Trial: 21 Jul 1852
Trial Year: 1852
Location of Trial: Staffordshire, England
Sentence: Imprisonment

15 months for housebreaking and larceny.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Oct 2020 20:15

??

John Mincher
in the 1841 England Census
Name: John Mincher
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Enville
Hundred: South Seisdon
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
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Registration District: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration District: Kinver
Neighbors:
Piece: 1002
Book: 7
Folio: 22
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm Aingsworth 30 - farmer
Sarah Jones 15
Richard Day 15
John Goatley 60
John Mincher 10 - male servant


John Mencher
in the 1871 England Census
Name: John Mencher
[John Mincher]
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: 1831
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Ewville Worcestershire England
Civil Parish: Wolverhampton
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
Town: Wolverhampton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration District: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration District: Wolverhampton Eastern
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Household Schedule Number: 95
Piece: 2939
Folio: 100
Page Number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mencher 40
Martha Mencher 23
Elisabeth Mencher 10
Sarah Mencher 5
Mary Mencher 3


Enville is about 5 miles from Bobbington.

Marian

Marian Report 11 Oct 2020 20:15

Thanks safc. Honeymoon baby! Addison snr was baptised at Holy Cross, Bobbington. Illegitimate son of Margaret. The variations on Mincher are a real hindrance.

Abby

Abby Report 11 Oct 2020 18:59

????

Record Transcription:
Staffordshire Baptisms
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First name(s) John
Last name Minchal
Baptism year 1829
Baptism date 26 Apr 1829
Baptism place Bobbington, Holy Cross
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Addison
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D5148/1/1
Page 27
Register type Baptism
Record set Staffordshire Baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

Transcriptions © Findmypast 2015

Marian

Marian Report 11 Oct 2020 18:46

I'm glad we haven't got a Michael There's enough names with Addison/Joseph/Mincher/Evans lol.

Abby

Abby Report 11 Oct 2020 18:39

my mistake

yes image does say richard

Marian

Marian Report 11 Oct 2020 18:33

Thank you safc. I have Richard Mincher baptised 20 October 1833 at Kinver parents Addison and Sarah. This is off the Family Search site.

Abby

Abby Report 11 Oct 2020 18:04

theres a michael mincher baptism october 20th 1833 in kinver

addison and sarah abode cheeks hill

could michael be addison ????

Abby

Abby Report 11 Oct 2020 17:36

Record Transcription:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

35, Church Street, Heath Town, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph C Mincher Head Married Male 32 1869 Iron Shearer Kinver, Worcestershire, England
Nellie Mincher Wife Married Female 32 1869 - Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England
Joseph C Mincher Son Single Male 5 1896 - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Joseph Mincher Grand Father Widower Male 68 1833 - Kinver, Worcestershire, England

Abby

Abby Report 11 Oct 2020 17:33

Burial entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Staffordshire
Place (Links to more information) Wolverhampton
Church name (Links to more information) Merridale Cemetery
Register type (Links to more information) Transcript
Burial date 07 Jun 1865
Burial person forename Margaret Elizabeth
Relationship dau of
Male relative forename Joseph
Burial person surname MINCHER
Person age 2y6m
Burial person abode Monmore Green
Notes Parish: St. Matthew. Occupation: Puddler. Grave: 9578a. Reg. No.: G2/03361
Transcribed by Michael Clarke
File line number 2441

Marian

Marian Report 11 Oct 2020 17:29

Hello again. The following is from Greyghost post above:

MINCHER, MARGARET ELIZABETH EVANS - NO - her Bap. on freereg, parents Harrison and Elizabeth
GRO Reference: 1862 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 398

I think Addison may have been mistranscribed as Harrison. There is a burial for Margaret Elizabeth at Merridale Cemetery, Wolverhampton on 7 June 1865. Could someone take a look at the burial to see if father is Harrison, Addison or Joseph. Thanks.

Marian

Marian Report 11 Oct 2020 15:33

Just got in and seen the above. Thank you. I wouldn't have found the 1891 census entry with those spellings.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Oct 2020 14:01

Name: Addison Mincher
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 7 Jul 1851
Marriage Place: Saint Matthew, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Spouse: Elizabeth Evans

Linked to.......................

Name: Elizabeth Mincher
Date of Trial: 23 Jul 1867
Trial Year: 1867
Location of Trial: Staffordshire, England
Sentence: Imprisonment
Crime: Endeavouring to conceal the birth of her child
Date of Execution or Release: See Image