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Dad rarely spoke about his parents, I think when his dad died he had a rough time, we left for South Africa in 1951 for several years and his mum died whilst we were there, I suppose a chapter in his life closed, could only keep contact by letter in those days
Thank you for your time and research Liz

Just wondering about this man:

William M Dean
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: William M Dean
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 13 May 1883
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 21. South Parade
Residence Place: Runcorn, Cheshire, England
Occupation: Chemical Works Boiler Attendant (Heavy Worker
Line Number: 41
Schedule Number: 188
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: LFQB
Borough: Runcorn
Registration district: 446-2.
Inferred Spouse: Janet Dean
Inferred Children: Cyril Dean
Household Members:
Name
William M Dean
Janet Dean - 15 April 1888
George Wright - 19 Jan 1913, single
Cyril Dean - 18 Nov 1924, single


South Parade is literally just round the corner from Baker Road, where Ann was living in 1939. They meet at right angles.



Death of his wife:

Janet Dean
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Janet Dean
Death Age: 57
Birth Date: abt 1889
Registration Date: Jan 1946
[Feb 1946]
[Mar 1946]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Liverpool South
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 158



His death:

William M Dean
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: William M Dean
Death Age: 66
Birth Date: abt 1883
Registration Date: Apr 1949
[May 1949]
[Jun 1949]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Runcorn
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume: 10a
Page: 547


Willam Matthew Dean
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1995
Name: Willam Matthew Dean
Death Date: 12 Jun 1949
Death Place: Cheshire, England
Probate Date: 26 Jul 1949
Probate Registry: Chester, England

DEAN, William Matthew, of 21 South Parade, Weston Point, Runcorn, Cheshire, died 12 June 1949. Probate 26 July to Samuel Dean, tannery worker, and Norman Dean, chemical process worker.. Effects £886 5s 11d.



If that's the right William M Dean, the marriage only lasted just over a year, which might be why your father never spoke of it. Maybe it didn't seem worth mentioning.
Your father would have been 25 at the time of the marriage, so he'd be living his own life by that time, and his mother's remarriage might not have affected it much, if at all.

You'd need Ann's 1948 marriage cert to prove it.

My cousin told me that Ann saw me when I was born in 1951 so 1953 seems right

from freebmd

Deaths Sep 1953 (>99%)
DEAN Ann J 60 Chester 10a 140

Her birth year was wrongly stated in 1939

Births Mar 1893 (>99%)
Ireland Ann Jane Runcorn 8a 226

I`m amazed that they took the time to update registers
Thank you all for your help
Liz

That is absolutely how it works. The 1939 register was updated with married names for females for many years after it was originally compiled

No, what I meant was that I had no idea that Ann re-married as my Dad never said anything about it
I queried it because Cheshire BMD records shows the marriage with William M Dean as 1948

Ernest Jakeman's death was registered in the 1st qr of 1929, so he died either late 1928 or early 1929.

Doris was born in December 1928.

There's no reason why Ernest couldn't have been Doris's father, if that's what you mean.

Ann's name was Jakeman when the 1939 Register was first compiled.

After she married William Dean the Register was updated, so Jakeman was scored out and Dean written instead.
You can see the date of the amendment (not the date of the marriage) in the same handwriting in the left-hand column - LFQ 17/6/48 M.

It doesn't mean there was anything dodgy about her name in 1939.

I know that Doris was born the year that her father died so perhaps there is some connection there, have never heard or come across Walthew name until today, have also started to question why Ann Jane Ireland (Jakeman) surname is crossed out on 1939 census and Dean has been written in, have found a marriage between Ann J Jakeman to William M Dean in 1948 Runcorn Cheshire which opens up another can of worms,
liz

Same address as in 1939 - but says he's not married:

William Henry Walthew
in the British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: William Henry Walthew
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1900
Enlistment Age: 18
Document Year: 1918
Residence Place: 90 Sherbourne Rd, Blackpool <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Regimental Number: 58157
Regiment Name: York and Lancaster Regiment
Number of Images: 15
Form Title: Record of Service
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
William Henry Walthew Self (Head)
Wm Hy Walthew

She married back home in Runcorn:

Doris Jakeman
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Doris Jakeman
Registration Date: Oct 1950
[Nov 1950]
[Dec 1950]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Runcorn
Inferred County: Cheshire
Spouse: William E Allen
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 837


Re the Walthews:

I haven't found their marriage, but the children's mms is Taylor, so no immediately obvious relationship with Jakemans.


A couple named William Henry Walthew (1888) and Louisa (Lewis)1886 married in Birkenhead in 1907, but they're still in Birkenhead in 1939, so not them.

Here's the Blackpool couple in 1911:

William Henry Walthew
in the 1911 England Census
Name: William Henry Walthew
Age in 1911: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Blackpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 71 Handsworth Road Blackpool
Marital status: Married
Estimated Marriage Year: 1898 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Occupation: Railway Signalman
Registration district: Fylde
Registration District Number: 477
Sub-registration district: Blackpool
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Piece: 25406
Household Members:
Name Age
William Henry Walthew 37
Louisa Walthew 35 - Liverpool
Gladys Lilith Walthew 12 - Kirkham, Lancs
William Henry Walthew 11 - Blackpool
Harold Walthew 6 - Blackpool



WALTHEW, GLADYS LITCTH mms TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1898 D Quarter in FYLDE Volume 08E Page 641

WALTHEW, WILLIAM HENRY mms TAYLER
GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in FYLDE Volume 08E Page 706

WALTHEW, HAROLD mms TAYLOR
GRO Reference: 1904 J Quarter in FYLDE Volume 08E Page 675

What on earth was Doris doing living in Blackpool at the age of 11...the mind boggles

WOW, thank you so much for your research Liz

Doris was living in Blackpool in 1939:

Doris Jakeman
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Doris Jakeman
[Doris Allen]
Gender: Female
Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 11 Dec 1928
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 90 Sherbourne Road
Residence Place: Blackpool, Lancashire, England
Occupation: At School
Line Number: 41
Schedule Number: 117
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: NCBC
Borough: Blackpool
Registration district: 477-1
Household Members:
Name
William H Walthew - 3 May 1873, railway guard, retired.
Louisa Walthew - 21 June 1875.
Doris Jakeman


So by process of elimination, Jack must be the closed record below Reginald in 1939.


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Ann J Jakeman
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Ann J Jakeman
[Ann J Dean]
Gender: Female
Marital status: Widow
Birth Date: 14 Feb 1894
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 6 Baker Road
Residence Place: Runcorn, Cheshire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 8
Schedule Number: 16
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: LFQB
Borough: Runcorn
Registration district: 446-2.
Household Members:
Name
Ann J Jakeman
Ethel Jakeman - 21 Oct 1914 [ later Ramsden ]
Reginald Jakeman - 23 April 1920
[Closed record ]
Audrey M Jakeman - 18 May 1919, married
[Closed record ]

On Ancestry, Audrey and the closed record below her are at the same address, but listed as a different household.



Per FreeBMD, Ernest and Ann had 7 children:

Ethel and Reginald above, and Jack as you know.
Ernest G 1916, Thomas C 1921, Prudence B 1926, Doris 1929.

Pre-1939, Thomas died 1922, Prudence died 1926.

The closed record below Audrey in 1939 is presumably her husband Ernest G.

Deaths Mar 1929 (>99%)
Jakeman Ernest 36 Runcorn 8a 490

"Enr" is a mistranscription of Ernest.

Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)

Ireland Ann J Jakeman Runcorn 8a 634
Jakeman Enr Ireland Runcorn 8a 634

Have found their parents and it appears that younger siblings than them are listed, there are blacked out lines so I assume this could be them?
thanks for your help