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Hi

I have returned to genesreunited during lockdown after a period away. I am researching a different branch of my family and I have found approx. 10 members who have useful info no doubt on people I am researching but when I have politely attempted to send them messages, nobody has replied. It is very frustrating. How does the procedure work? The messages I sent are still showing as green envelopes. Does this mean the messages have not been read because the people have not accessed the genesreunited website? Do these people not also receive e-mails advising them of messages received? Please advise.

Regards

Howard

If they’ve changed emails since they registered, they won’t be notified.
If they’ve died since they registered, they won’t hear anything
Closed green envelopes mean unopened.
Hardly anyone who registered in the early days of this site now bothers with it.

Bear in mind that people often just add names to their trees without actually researching them

You’re better off doing your own - careful - research

Thanks for the info ErikaH

Regards

Howard

If you get stuck, the people who are still around are always delighted to try to help.

OK ErikaH

Many thanks for your offer of help. One of my frustrations regarding non-response by other members concerns my ancestor James Pickford-born Stockport around 1820 as per the 1861 census. I know that several members have Stockport Pickfords in their trees including this man from Stockport and dating back to early 1700.

I think I mentioned that I can no longer access familysearch.org on my computer and as this date is pre-1837 presumably I now have to access parish records to try to trace back further? Is there any way of doing this during lockdown or of tracing back further on this line?

Regards

Howard

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Record Transcription:
England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

First name(s) James
Last name Pickford
Gender Male
Birth year 1820
Birth place -
Baptism year 1821
Baptism date 17 Feb 1821
Place Stockport
County Cheshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Pickford
Mother's first name(s) Eliz.
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

Why can't you access familysearch?

This is presumably his baptism from FS:

James Pickford
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: James Pickford
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 17 Feb 1821
Event Place: Stockport, Cheshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Orchard Street or Churchgate Independent, Stockport, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 20 Nov 1820
Father's Name: William Pickford
Mother's Name: Eliz.

Is this the man you refer to in 1861 - Heaton Norris is a suburb of Stockport

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
11, Victoria Arcade, Manchester, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Pickford Head Married Male 40 1821 Confectioner And Fruiterer Heaton Norris, Lancashire, England
Nancy Pickford Wife Married Female 44 1817 - Stockport, Cheshire, England
Joseph Pickford Son - Male 14 1847 Under Commercial Clerk Stockport, Cheshire, England

and 1851 -
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Lord Street, Stockport, Cheshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Pickford Son Married Male 30 1821 Cotton Spinner Heaton Norris, Lancashire, England
Nancy Pickford Daughter In Law Married Female 34 1817 - Buglawton, Cheshire, England
Joseph Pickford Grand Son - Male 4 1847 Scholar Stockport, Cheshire, England
William Pickford Grand Son - Male 2 1849 - Stockport, Cheshire, England
Elizabeth Pickford Grand Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Stockport, Cheshire, England

Unlikely that he has Grandchildren !!
The names above are at the top of a census page. Going back to the previous page shows these people with -

William Pickford Head
Elizabeth Pickford Wife
Alfred Pickford Son 22

EDIT - later results show this is not the right man after more info. from poster.

This would appear to be him in 1841 - same address as 1851

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Lord Street, Stockport, Cheshire, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
William Pickford Male 40 1801 Cheshire, England
Elizabeth Pickford Female 40 1801 Cheshire, England
Ann Pickford Female 20 1821 Cheshire, England
James Pickford Male 20 1821 Cheshire, England
Thomas Pickford Male 15 1826 Cheshire, England
William Pickford Male 15 1826 Cheshire, England
Alfred Pickford Male 13 1828 Cheshire, England
Charles Renshaw Male 20 1821 Cheshire, England

Record Transcription:
England Marriages 1538-1973

James Pickford
Parish Baptisms Record
Cheshire, England
Year of birth: 1821
First name(s) James
Last name Pickford
Name note -
Age 25
Marriage year 1845
Marriage date 30 Nov 1845
Marriage place Heaton-Norris
Father's first name(s) William
Father's last name Pickford
Spouse's first name(s) Nancy
Spouse's last name Foster
Spouse's birth year 1810
Spouse's birth date 1810
Spouse's father's first name(s) Joseph
Spouse's father's last name Foster
Residence Heaton-Norris, Lancashire, England
County Lancashire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

James Pickford
in the 1841 England Census
Name: James Pickford
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Stockport
Hundred: Macclesfield
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
View image
Registration district: Stockport
Sub-registration district: Stockport First District
Neighbors:
Piece: 113
Book: 5
Folio: 40
Page Number: 29
Household Members:
Name Age
William Pickford 40 - cotton spinner
Elizabeth Pickford 40
Ann Pickford 20
James Pickford 20 - cotton ginner (?)
Thomas Pickford 15 - thruster (?) jobber
William Pickford 15 - frame piecer
Alfred Pickford 13 - frame piecer

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Record Transcription:
Cheshire Diocese of Chester bishop's transcripts marriages 1576-1906

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name PICKFORD
Birth year -
Marriage date 10 Aug 1818
Marriage year 1818
Church -
Place CHEADLE
Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth
Spouse's last name Butler
Bride's age -
Bride's birth place -
Bride's residence Cheadle
Groom's residence Cheadle
City or town Cheadle
County Cheshire
Country England
Records set Cheshire Diocese of Chester bishop's transcripts marriages

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Parish of Cheadle - Bishops Transcripts

William Pickford
England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900
Name: William Pickford
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 August 1818
Event Place: Cheadle, Cheshire
Gender:
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Butler

From FS - image available
Both of this Parish
Married by Banns
Witnesses - James Medcalf and John Pickford

There should be no reason why you can't access Family Search ?? It may be these days you have to register though.

Yes, you have to register and log in - but it's free.

Thanks for all your amazing and fast research. In answer to greyghost's and ArgyllGran's queries re non-access to familysearch.org, I used to be able to access this website several years ago and I have a user name and password which appear to be still valid but when I try to access the website, my user name seems to be recognised but I just get a blank screen with hourglasses going around which do not stop. I have also tried to create a new account but I get the same problem, Could it be that I am on a version of windows now -ie 8.1-which is not compatible with their website?

Regards

Howard

Hi Greyghost

Re James Pickford

I am sure that your census record found from 1841 relates to the James Pickford I am interested in. However, I don't think that your 1851 and 1861 census records relate to the same person. My ancestor was living at 98 Higher Hillgate, Stockport with wife Mary and children in the 1861 census. Thanks for all your work nonetheless.

Regards

Howard

The easiest way to test the familysearch site is to set a new user name and password

Don't assume that because people have a name in a GR tree that they actually know anything else.

If you'd posted the 1861 info, people would have had a factual basis on which to work

Name: James Pickford
Age: 41
Estimated birth year: 1820
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Mary Pickford
Gender: Male
Where born: Stockport, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Stockport
Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas
Town: Stockport
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Registration district: Stockport
Sub-registration district: Stockport First
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 2566
Folio: 35
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
James Pickford 41
Mary Pickford 38....born Stockport
William Pickford 16
Sarah Pickford 11
James Pickford 8
Joseph Pickford 7
Mary Pickford 1

Name: James Pickford
Marriage Date: 27 Mar 1842
Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George
Father's name: Charles Pickford**************************Umbrella Maker
Spouse's name: Mary Fallows
Spouse's Father's Name: Joseph Fallows******************Farmer
Archive Roll: 707

PICKFORD, WILLIAM FALLOWS
GRO Reference: 1845 J Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 19 Page 260

PICKFORD, SARAH FALLOWES
GRO Reference: 1849 J Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 19 Page 361

PICKFORD, MARY FALLOWS
GRO Reference: 1860 M Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 08A Page 44

PICKFORD, JAMES FALLOWS
GRO Reference: 1852 D Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 08A Page 46

PICKFORD, JOSEPH FALLOWS
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in STOCKPORT Volume 08A Page 64

Record Transcription:
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

98, Higher Hill Gate, Stockport, Cheshire, England

Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Pickhard Head Married Male 41 1820 Ginger Beer Manufacturer Stockport, Cheshire, England
Mary Pickhard Wife Married Female 38 1823 Cotton Weaver Stockport, Cheshire, England
William Pickhard Son Unmarried Male 16 1845 Cotton Weaver Heaton Mersey, Lancashire, England
Sarah Pickhard Daughter - Female 11 1850 - Stockport, Cheshire, England
James Pickhard Son - Male 8 1853 Scholar Stockport, Cheshire, England
Joseph Pickhard Son - Male 7 1854 Scholar Stockport, Cheshire, England
Mary Pickhard Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Stockport, Cheshire, England