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Florence

Florence Report 25 Apr 2025 12:17

Hmmm that is really interesting, I have a vague memory of our McNair side having family either in America or Oceania...

I can't find divorce records for Maud and William Arthur, but I'm fairly new to the game so I'm not sure if those are readily available?

Florence

Florence Report 25 Apr 2025 12:18

Also of note - from the newspaper article, it sounds like William Arthur was living in Quebec Mews in London in 1924

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Apr 2025 12:28

Recent English divorce records are not readily available

4.1 What proportion of case files survive?
The survival rate of divorce case files is:

1858-1927: almost 100%
1928-1937: 80%
After 1937: less than 0.2%

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Apr 2025 12:47

If you need to obtain a death certificate direct from the New Zealand authorities, these are issued by the Department of Internal Affairs - Births, Deaths and Marriages Section. You can order a certificate online, by post, in person or by phone. The cost for the certificate is $NZ33.29 Apr 2024

https://www.certificates.services.govt.nz/

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Apr 2025 13:02

SARTORI, ELVIRA PRIDMORE
GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in CHORLTON Volume 08C Page 953

Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
PRIDMORE Edith Florence Chorlton 8c 1388
Sartori Theophil Chorlton 8c 1388



SARTORI, ERNEST PRIDMORE
GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in FULHAM () Volume 01A Page 169

1939 Register
18 Fielding Road, West Holland Park, Kensington And Chelsea, Hammersmith, London, England
Ernest Sartor 24 Mar 1911 Male Hotel Porter Single 439 1
Edith F Sartor 23 Dec 1880 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 439 2
Constance (D) Pierrott (Sartori) 21 Mar 1881 Male Licensed Messengers Widowed 439 3

Marriages Mar 1945 (>99%)

Sartori Ernest Turley Hammersmith 1a 458
Turley Brigid Sartori Hammersmith 1a 458

Deaths Dec 1976 (>99%)
SARTORI Ernest 24MR1911 Paddington 14 1155

SARTORI, BRIGID 1918
GRO Reference: DOR Q2/2007 in WESTMINSTER (2581A) Reg 1A001 Entry Number 500286302

Ernest and Brigid (Bridie) had two daughters

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Apr 2025 13:03

Name Doris Maud McNair
Baptism Age 0
Record Type Baptism
Birth Date 13 Jan 1924
Baptism Date 27 Jan 1924
Baptism Place Saint Alfege, Greenwich: Greenwich Church Street, Greenwich, Greenwich, England
Father William Arthur McNair, Chauffeur
Mother Maud McNair
Abode: Hardy Cottages

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Apr 2025 13:47

Just passing time.................waiting for a delivery


Name Otto Kuno Theophil Sartori
Gender Male
Baptism Date 30 Jan 1876
Baptism Place Sankt Damian and Hugo Katholisch, Bruchsal, Karlsruhe, Baden
Father Arthur Sartori
Mother Fanni Siegel

1911 Census For England & Wales
28 Dunraven Road, Hammersmith, London & Middlesex, England
Otto Sartori Head Married Male 33 1878 Hotel waiter Bruchsal Baden
Edie Sartori Wife Married Female 29 1882 - Lyton Essex
Cyril Sartori Son Single Male 8 1903 - London W Marylebone
Violet Sartori Daughter Single Female 10 1901 - London W
Vera Sartori Daughter Single Female 4 1907 - Manchester Lancashire


SARTORI, CYRIL PRIDMORE
GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in ST MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 498

PRIDMORE, VIOLET - (Illegitimate)
GRO Reference: 1900 D Quarter in MARYLEBONE Volume 01A Page 541

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Apr 2025 13:49

1921 Census Of England & Wales
1, Western Broadway, Hammersmith, London & Middlesex, England

Auguste Pierrot Head Male 1881 40 London, England Molver Mac Ishire Out Of Work
Louise Pierrot Daughter Female 1910 11 - - -
Edith F L Sartori Servant Female 1886 35 England Housekeeper M Pierrot I Valver
Vera Sartoni Boarder Female 1905 15 Lancashire, England Assistant Alexander Fruiters
Ernest Sartoni Boarder Male 1911 10 London, London, England - -
Charlotte Mossop Boarder Female 1890 30 Marylebone, London, England Barmaid Strange & Co
Robert McAusland Boarder Male 1881 40 - Civil Servant Florence Dult,Numty S Saton Aen
Alfred Graham Palin Boarder Male 1897 24 - Civil Servant Finance Dept,Ministry Of Labour Kew

Florence

Florence Report 25 Apr 2025 16:59

What's the Sartori relation? Or is that unrelated?

I'm trying to find criminal records currently to help me pin down any more deets, as I know William Arthur Mcnair was in prison in 1924 (charged by Greenwich Magistrate)... but my amateur sleuthing skills are making it hard!!!

Florence

Florence Report 25 Apr 2025 17:00

OH ignore me... Elvira Sartori! There just seem to be so many William Mcnairs around that time I have no idea how to determine which is the right one

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Apr 2025 17:44

Don’t think the prison records would be of any use - even IF they exist.

There’s only one William A with the right birth year

Get a copy of the 1957 marriage cert for father’s name.

In your shoes, I’d be seriously considering the NZ death cert as an option.