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And just for clarity - because I am dim:

1. You have found McEwan - Semple and Nimmo in close proximity (The Vennel)
2. If i find Nmmo's daughter marriage certificate it may reveal whether her mother was a Semple and therefore that starts to firm up a link

Finally, how did a brother in law (Thomas Nimmo) know the details of his dead brother in laws parents - by being intricately linked to the family of course

Final question Chris Ho before i do some proper work

Where did you get the reference to Catherine Semple

and many thanks!!!!!!

Re the reference to Catherine Semple -
Chris gave the link in the same post.


However, although she had a spirit-dealing business there, it doesn't mean she lived there.

No sign of her in Greenock in 1851 census, as far as I can see.

(apologies, just switched on, been shopping!)

Chris :)

(as you're here AG, lol,would that Marriage Cert. of Rose Nimmo in 1873, give anything on name of her Mother? (me, not knowing on things Scottish Certs, lol)

(trying to find name of her Mother, to see if she was a 'Semple', which made Charles M'Ewen (and it's variants!) the Brother in Law of Thomas Nimmo)


https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/keepsafe/asset/details/22558317

(Thomas Nimmo is named on above 1857 Death Cert. of Charles)

Rose Ann's marriage again, with SP ref nos., if you want to have a look, Christopher.

NIMMO
ROSE ANN
TAYLOR
JAMES
1873
564/2 14
Greenock East

It'll cost you 6 credits to view the image.

Yes, it would give names of both parents, including mms, plus father's occupation, and whether they were deceased or not.

She married only a fortnight after her father died.

I don't see her birth, however.

She's Rose Anne in 1871 and at marriage; Rose Ann in 1861; Rosina in 1851.
Birth varies 1842-44, but always in Greenock.

No mother present in 1851 or 1871 - unless the transcription is wrong.
1861 there's a wife Charlett, from Ireland.

1851 - father is a fish hawker from Ireland.
1861: railway labourer, Ireland.
1871: railway official, Ireland
Coming up in the world as time goes on.

(thankyou AG, good to know these things, lol)

Chris :)

Probably nothing to do with finding the 1st wife of Thomas Nimmo,but was the Charlotte Hardie he married in 1851 with the McEwan 1841 and 1851.

1841 Charlotte Harvey age 21
1851 Charlotte Hardy 22 Neice born Ireland dressmaker.

Son to Thomas and Charlotte nee Harvie
Thomas Nimmo born 21/5/1857.

Maryb

Goodness - my work for tonight - someone else will have to cook the tea and walk the dog
I feel i am on the edge of a breakthrough
That said - not sure whether the theory of Ewing and McEwan being interchangeable is true

And i have credits for SP

Hurrah

Rose Ann's death

NIMMO
ROSE ANN
86
1931
564/1 339
Greenock East

Is that her rg?, so not the one who Married James Taylor 1873...

Chris :)

(wonder what became of Catherine Semple?)


Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Thomas
Last name McEwan
Sex Male
Birth year 1809
Birth date 18 Feb 1809
Baptism year 1809
Baptism date 19 Feb 1809
Denomination Roman Catholic
Baptism place Glasgow
Parish St Andrew
Diocese Glasgow
County Lanarkshire
Country Scotland
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name McEwan
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
Mother's last name Semple
Volume 02

(looks like Pedlar?, for Father occ. Sponsors, Patrick MacGraddie, Molly Semple)


First name(s) Robert
Last name McEwen
Sex Male
Birth year 1821
Birth date 24 Jun 1821
Baptism year 1821
Baptism date 20 Jul 1821
Denomination Roman Catholic
Baptism place Edinburgh
Parish St Mary's Cathedral
Diocese St Andrews & Edinburgh
County Midlothian
Country Scotland
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name McEwen
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
Mother's last name Semple
Volume 03

(Sponsors, Hamilton Morrice, Rose Tonar)


First name(s) Arthur
Last name McEwen
Sex Male
Birth year 1806
Birth date 06 Sep 1806
Baptism year 1806
Baptism date 10 Oct 1806
Denomination Roman Catholic
Baptism place Edinburgh
Parish St Mary's Cathedral
Diocese St Andrews & Edinburgh
County Midlothian
Country Scotland
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name McEwen
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
Mother's last name Semple
Volume 02

(occ. Pedlar. Sponsors, Robt. McEwen, Elenor MacEwen)


First name(s) John
Last name MacEwan
Sex Male
Birth year 1813
Birth date 22 Mar 1813
Baptism year 1813
Baptism date10 Apr 1813
Denomination Roman Catholic
Baptism place Edinburgh
Parish St Mary's Cathedral
Diocese St Andrews & Edinburgh
County Midlothian
Country Scotland
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name MacEwan
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
Mother's last name Simple

(Sponsors, Peter Murray, Margaret Simple)


First name(s) Mary
Last name McEwan
Sex Female
Birth year 1811
Birth date 08 May 1811
Baptism year 1811
Baptism date 09 Jun 1811
Denomination Roman Catholic
Baptism place Paisley
Parish St Mirin
Diocese Paisley
County Renfrewshire
Country Scotland
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name McEwan
Mother's first name(s) Bridget
Mother's last name Symple
Volume 01

(Sponsors, Charles McEwan, Nancy McOneghy)

Same one Chris. In Scotland deaths are indexed under all known surnames.



NIMMO
ROSE ANN
86
1931
564/1 339
Greenock East

TAYLOR
ROSE ANN
86
1931
564/1 339
Greenock East

Good god - you have found them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edinburgh fgs

Do you know how significant this is

10 years looking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Next question - what became of bridget semple

Rose Ann Nimmo married James Taylor a teacher born Liverpool they had 4 sons one of which was Thomas Nimmo Taylor born Dec 1873 died 1963

He became a Priest, there are lots of articles about him on google one of which states his dad James a teacher from Liverpool and mum Rose-Ann Nimmo Irish.

Please ignore if you have this info,I just thought it made interesting reading.

Maryb.

If the informant knew the details, this should name Charlotte's parents.


Surname Forename Age at death Mother's Maiden Name Year
HARVEY
CHARLOTTE
36
1863
564/1X 2
Greenock Middle

NIMMO
CHARLOTTE
36
1863
564/1X 2
Greenock Middle

(thankyou rg, I'm getting the 'knowledge', lol)

Chris :)

Am sure there must be more on FMP Christopher, it's a case of 'playing' with names!, couldn't see a Baptism for Charles though...

(to be sure of things Irish, you would need to see his Birthplace from Census entries on ScotlandsPeople)


Edits (notes on below, Sponsor 1852, Magdalan McEwen. Sponsor 1853, Mary a MEwen)

Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms (Find My Past)

Joseph Nimme 1852 1852 Thomas Greenock Renfrewshire

James Nimms 1853 1853 Thomas Greenock Renfrewshire

Thomas Nimmio 1857 1857 Thomas Greenock Renfrewshire

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