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Im so sorry as my mind is all mudled up.but in my tree i dont have a henry as charles thomas father.i have charles thomas hibber born liverpool 1882.he married sarah owen,his father was charles thomas born chester 1861 he married sarah holland,
His father was thomas hibbert born c1824 he married elizabeth edge.am i correct as the above.or am i missing the plot somewhere.
Thanks for any help,
I do appreciate it,
If the above is correct then i know to carry on,
Regards

To recap, without going back through all previous entries - so apologies to all who have already posted records:

Charles Thomas 1882's baptism:

Charles Thomas Hibbert
in the Liverpool, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1919
Name: Charles Thomas Hibbert
Birth Date: 13 Feb
Baptism Date: 23 Apr 1882
Baptism Place: Everton, St Ambrose, Lancashire, England
Father: Charles Hibbert
Mother: Sarah Ann Hibbert


His birth:

HIBBERT, CHARLES THOMAS mms HOLLAND
GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 392


His parents' marriage:

Marriages Sep 1880 (>99%)
HIBBERT Charles Liverpool 8b 240
Holland Sarah Ann Liverpool 8b 240


Another record of the marriage, showing his father's name:

Charles Hibbert
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Charles Hibbert
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Age: 19
Birth Date: 1861
Marriage Date: 9 Aug 1880
Marriage Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Father: Thomas Hibbert
Spouse: Sarah Ann Holland
FHL Film Number: 93935
Reference ID: p234 cn 467


Charles 1861 in 1861 census with his parents;

Charles T Hibbert
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Charles T Hibbert
Age: 2/12
Estimated birth year: 1861
Relation: Son
Father's name: Thomas Hibbert
Mother's name: Elizabeth Hibbert
Gender: Male
Where born: Chester, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Chester Holy Trinity
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Great Boughton
Sub-registration district: Cathedral Division
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 131
Piece: 2629
Folio: 37
Page Number: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hibbert 37
Elizabeth Hibbert 37
Emily Hibbert 14
Mary A Hibbert 13
Alfred Hibbert 7
Sarah J Hibbert 2
Charles T Hibbert 2/12


Births of Charles and siblings:

HIBBERT, CHARLES THOMAS mms EDGE
GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in GREAT BOUGHTON Volume 08A Page 345

HIBBERT, SARAH JANE mms EDGE
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in GREAT BOUGHTON Volume 08A Page 362

HIBBERT, ALFRED mms EDGE
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in GREAT BOUGHTON Volume 08A Page 397

HIBBERT, MARY ANN mms EDGE
GRO Reference: 1848 S Quarter in GREAT BOUGHTON Volume 19 Page 55

HIBBERT, EMILY mms EDGE
GRO Reference: 1846 S Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 20 Page 530


Thomas and Elizabeth's marriage:

Elizabeth Edge
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Elizabeth Edge
Registration Year: 1844
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Great Boughton
Inferred County: Chesire
Volume: 19
Page: 38
Records on Page:
Name
Elizabeth Edge
Thomas Hibbert


The family in 1851, with an earlier son Charles, who died:

Elizabeth Hibbert
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Hibbert
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas Hibbert
Gender: Female
Where born: Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Chester Holy Trinity
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Great Boughton
Sub-registration district: Cathedral Division
ED, institution, or vessel: 7d
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 8
Piece: 2172
Folio: 387
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hibbert 27
Elizabeth Hibbert 27
Emily Hibbert 6
Mary A Hibbert 3
Charles T Hibbert 4 Mo


HIBBERT, CHARLES THOMAS mms EDGE
GRO Reference: 1850 D Quarter in GREAT BOUGHTON Volume 19 Page 52

Death:
HIBBERT, CHARLES 7
GRO Reference: 1857 S Quarter in GREAT BOUGHTON Volume 08A Page 228

Thanks for everone for helping im 65 now and my brain is not what it was.
One last favour if anyone can help....
Thomas hibbert born 1824 chester married elizabeth edge they married chester 1844.
Thomas father was charles hibbert,elizabeths father was john edge.
Does anyone have info ,mainly on the hibbert side as on the records there are a couple of possabilities.ie when was charles hibbert born who did he marry.
Regards

Only 65, George? You're just a boy compared to many of us!

According to Thomas's second marriage record (to Sarah Ann Hobbs in 1876) , Thomas was a coachman, and his father Charles was a groom.

Possible for Thomas with mother and siblings in 1841 ??

Thomas Hibbert
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Thomas Hibbert
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: St Oswald
Hundred: Chester
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
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Registration district: Great Boughton
Sub-registration district: Cathedral Division
Neighbors:
Piece: 130
Book: 1
Folio: 15
Page Number: 25
Household Members:
Name Age
Ann Hibbert 35 - publican
Thomas Hibbert 15 - coachman
John Hibbert 10
Mary Hibbert 5
James Hibbert 3


In fact, looking back at previous pages of this thread, I see that Maddie posted that on page 2. (18 Dec 2016 @ 11:23 )

She also posted the marriage of Thomas's father Charles to Ann Wilkinson in 1824, along with records of both Charles's and Ann's baptisms.

Ok thank you :-)

I have them now plus through to sylvanus hibbert
Thanks for all your help :-)

Looking for the parents of annie smith born liverpool d.o.b.27 feb 1906 she married george hibbert born 1911,think they married liverpool,annies sisters were edna,cissy henrieta,may,brother william known as billy,i think edna was born.24 11 1918.
Thanks

Look for her birth on the FREE to all GRO index, which gives you the MMN. Then look for parents’ marriage

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

OR....get a copy of her marriage cert for confirmation of her father’s details - assuming she knew him

The other - EASY - option is to find Edna’s birth on freebmd

No need to ‘think’ where Annie married Hibbert -the record will be on freebmd

MMN is Blacoe

Freebmd is such an easy site to use - try it!

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

also the following

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/index.php

1911
37 Desmond St Everton L'pool, Everton, Lancashire, England
George J Smith Head Married Male 33 1878 Labourer Lpool Corporation Everton Lancs
Margaret Smith Wife Married Female 31 1880 - Everton Lancs
Lillian Smith Daughter - Female 11 1900 School Everton Lancs
George Smith Son - Male 8 1903 - Everton Lancs
Margaret Smith Daughter - Female 7 1904 - Everton Lancs
Annie Smith Daughter - Female 5 1906 - Everton Lancs
Robert Smith Son - Male 2 1909 - Everton Lancs

Thank you so much :-)

Is it possible for one last favour george james smith born 1878 married margaret beatrice smith born 1880 what was her maiden name
Regards

I've already told you that.......

And it's easy to find

Look at freebmd - or read my posts

Ok sorry i missed that one,got it now,
Many thanks :-)

I have on page 2 thomas charles hibbert married sarah elizabeth owens married in lpool i have her father as william robert owens was her mother a rumble
Regards

The dates on page 2 for there ages dont add up.
Charles thomas hibbert.born lpool 1882 married sarah eliz owen
His father was charles thomas hibbert born 1861 great boughton chester.he married
Sarah ann holland.so was sarah ann owen her father and mother.i have a link to the rumble family but not sure
Regards

Plus i have there name as owen and not owens
Regards

To find the MMN, look for the woman’s birth on the GRO site, then look on freebmd for a potential marriage for the parents

Look for her with parents on censuses - so you can confrim your findings

Not sure what else you’re asking. Your reference to Sarah Ann Holland and Sarah Ann Owen simply doesn’t make sense, I’m afraid

WHEN was the marriage of Hibbert and Owen(s)?

Name: William Rumble
Age in 1911: 71
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation to Head: Father-in-law********************************
Gender: Male
Birth Place: East Ilsley Bark
Civil Parish: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 182 Elias St Liverpool
Marital status: Widowed
Occupation: Old Age Pensioner
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: North Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 05
Piece: 22488
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Hibbert 30
Sarah Hibbert 29
Charles Hibbert 10
Albert Hibbert 6
Sarah Hibbert 4
Maggie Hibbert 2
William Rumble 71



Name: William Rumble
Age: 61
Estimated birth year: abt 1840
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hsley, Berkshire, England
Civil Parish: Walton on the Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3457
Folio: 79
Page Number: 32
Household schedule number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Shanks 69
William Rumble 61