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Looking for mother of Ellen Horan 1/11/1896
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Deborah | Report | 13 Jun 2016 19:19 |
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I believe her name is Margaret Trimble or Quills from Queenstown Ireland, Married to James Murphy also from Queenstown has a son John Murphy in America recently died in 2013. If anyone has any information I would much appreciate your help. |
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it | Report | 13 Jun 2016 19:31 |
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Have you tried family search site |
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it | Report | 14 Jun 2016 09:18 |
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Did she marry in Ireland or in America ? |
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it | Report | 14 Jun 2016 09:46 |
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A public tree on Ancetsry has this record |
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ArgyllGran | Report | 14 Jun 2016 10:16 |
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ArgyllGran | Report | 14 Jun 2016 10:29 |
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I suspect that tree is badly researched, and should be taken with a large pinch of salt - the census records at least can't be the right Ellen. |
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ArgyllGran | Report | 14 Jun 2016 10:35 |
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Maybe the marriage of the one in the censuses (whether or not she's your Ellen ): |
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AustinQ | Report | 14 Jun 2016 10:36 |
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The family that Shirley put the 1901 & 1911 census for appear quite a few times in the criminal records on FMP. James Horan was accused of assaulting his wife 1901, Margaret Horan was accused of assaulting Ellen Leahy 1907. |
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AustinQ | Report | 14 Jun 2016 10:44 |
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Perhaps you mean surname Trindles? |
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AustinQ | Report | 14 Jun 2016 12:11 |
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OK, so this is where the DOB came from?: |
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ArgyllGran | Report | 14 Jun 2016 12:26 |
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So ten years out re DOB - and could therefore be the Ellen on the censuses. |
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AustinQ | Report | 14 Jun 2016 12:36 |
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From what I can gather this is Ellen's 2nd marriage: |
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AustinQ | Report | 14 Jun 2016 13:16 |
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It seems some of Ellen's siblings also travelled to US- have you got details on them? |
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AustinQ | Report | 14 Jun 2016 14:12 |
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The Baptism of Christopher John Horan is on Rootsireland- mother's surname is listed as unclear- Margaret Tringles. |
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AustinQ | Report | 14 Jun 2016 14:23 |
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It is possible that Mother Margaret was married before. |
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Deborah | Report | 16 Jun 2016 14:14 |
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The only information I have is Ellen Horan's date of birth 1/11/1896 and James Murphy 24th of June or July 1890. They married in Cardiff on the 23/4/1917. John Murphy their son gave us this little information he had before he passed away in 2013. He lived in O'Fallon Mo 63366 Rosedale Drive America. Ellen is the sister of Margaret Brice Nee Horan of Queenstown Ireland. Thank you all for the information you have found so far. I don't have any certificates to go on. |
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Deborah | Report | 16 Jun 2016 14:23 |
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Austin your information seems to be more accurate to what information we have accept the marriage certificate of Margaret Horan and Charles John Brice from COBH Parish states Margaret Horan's parents are James Horan and Margaret Trimble/Trunkles the person writing the certificate was not able to identify the surname correctly they put Trunkles but John son of Ellen states it is Trimble. |
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Deborah | Report | 16 Jun 2016 14:35 |
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We visited COBH Ireland to see where Margaret Horan lived and got the marriage certificate while we was there. Margaret Horan is the sister of Ellen and my husbands grandmother . Eileen Watkins nee Brice my mother in law is the daughter of Margaret Horan and she very little of her mothers family tree. Especially as they all moved to America. James Brice and Julia Coffee where witnesses to Margaret and Charles John Brice marriage July 18th 1909 COBH Parish. |
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Deborah | Report | 16 Jun 2016 14:37 |
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John Murphy son of Ellen Horan was born 3 days after she got married on the 23/4/1917. |
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AustinQ | Report | 16 Jun 2016 15:24 |
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Margaret and James had several children (some died young) on all the baptisms (apart from Ellen's) the transcrption gives mother's name as Tringle Tringles Singles and Trindals. The only way I can see of progressing is to buy the 1886 marriage certificate to see who Margaret's father is. |
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