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Sarah W Shaw nee Coward with her husband and mother Elizabeth Coward

Shaw Household (3 People)
32 Council Houses , Southwell R.D., Nottinghamshire, England

Sarah W Shaw 13 Nov 1888 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Willis Shaw 24 Oct 1889 Clerk Of Works New Military Can Civil Engineer
Elizabeth Coward 03 Feb 1857 None

Likely children
Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
Shaw Willis W Coward Kendal 10b 1550
Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Shaw Frederick H Coward Kendal 10b 1390

Yes Rootgatherer I have William and Lily's (I knew her well as my gran) history and can see no blood connection with Lizzie/Rene. I have a personal letter written by Lily reminiscing when William first "collected" Lizzie and took her home.

1939 Register
Lindsley Household (2 People)
4 Teasdales Court , Haltwhistle R.D., Northumberland, England

Lily Lindsley
DOB 18 Jul 1887
SEX Female
OCCUPATION Unpaid Dom Duties
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 169
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 2

William Lindsley
DOB 16 Oct 1874
SEX Male
OCCUPATION Colly Stoneman Unemployed
MARITAL STATUS Married
SCHEDULE 169
SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER 1

There are two closed records

As John Henry couldn't have been Lizzie / Rene's father, have you researched William and Lily to see if there is a family connection please?

Mar 1918 (>99%)
Lennard Lily Linsley Auckland 10a 418
Linsley Hannah H Lowson Auckland 10a 418
Linsley William Lennard Auckland 10a 418
LOWSON Wilfred Linsley Auckland 10a 418

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Marriages Sep 1914 (>99%)
Coward Sarah W Shaw Kendal 10b 1486
SHAW Willis Coward Kendal 10b 1486

Just going back to Hartley Coward a moment

Deaths Jun 1926 (>99%)
Coward Hartley 61 Kendal 10b 837

Probate is to wife Elizabeth and can be seen here

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/

There is this Schools Admission Log for John Henry Rawes which fits in with the 1891 Census

irst name(s) John Henry
Last name Rawes
Birth year 1885
Birth date 11 Aug 1885
Event year 1893
School name Crosscrake School
Town Crosscrake
Residence Endmoor
County Westmorland
Country England
Parent name(s) Mr Dennison
Book type Admissions
Archive reference WDS21
Folio / page no. -
Archive Kendal, Cumbria
Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914

Above John H's Entry is one for John Dennison b 4 Apr 1884, Parent Henry

Peter, Assuming the 1939 register for Mary H Kemshell ( nee Rawes) that safc added is correct and I'm sure it is, Ronald Kemshell their son married and there were two children, which as they are living I will send names of by message, see messages at top of page

This is a bit of a long shot but, given that Janet remarried, it 'might ' be a possible, as children born after the father died could still have been reg in his name?

Soldiers died in the Great War 1914-1919 Transcription
Print transcription
First name(s) JOHN HENRY
Last name RAWES
Service number 22059
Rank L/CPL
Regiment King's Own (Yorkshire Light Infantry)
Battalion 10th Battalion.
Birth place ENDMOOR, WESTMORELAND
Residence -
Enlistment place KENDAL
Death year 1916
Death day 30
Death month 9
Cause of death Died of wounds
Death place France & Flanders
Theatre of war Western European Theatre
Supplementary Notes -
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
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First name(s) John H
Last name Rawes
Service number 22059
Rank Private, Acting Corporal
Corps Yorkshire Light Infantry
Service record Soldier Number: 22059, Rank: Private, Corps: Yorkshire Light Infantry
Service record 2 Soldier Number: 22059, Rank: Acting Corporal, Corps: Yorkshire Light Infantry
Archive reference WO372/16
Archive reference description Campaign Medal Index Cards and Silver War Badge Cards
Country Great Britain
Image link http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D4791645
Record set World War One British Army medal index cards
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain

NOTE the CWGC has the initial differently

RAWES, G H

Rank:CorporalService No:22059 Date of Death:30/09/1916 Regiment/Service:King's Own Yorkshire Light Infantry 10th Bn. Grave Reference: I. K. 33. Cemetery:GROVE TOWN CEMETERY, MEAULTE

Unfortunately I only have a copy of the short certificate so there are no details on father or the address

On the birth certificate what was the occupation given for John H? Also, what was the address? Thanks

Wow!Thanks for the swift responses and all this information. Much to ponder. I only discovered Mum's birth certificate recently when Dad died.

There is this Marriage?

Marriages Jun 1933
Bailie Beatrice D Hawes Warrington 8c 423
Rawes John H Bailie Warrington 8c 423

Which may be connected to the death of John Rawes in 1936

It seems unlikely, due to the expense, but would Janet M & John H have divorced?

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4, Grove Street, Nelson, Burnley, Lancashire, England


Isabella Rawes Head Widow Female 53 1848 - Kendal, Westmorland, England
Esther E Rawes Daughter Single Female 22 1879 Confectioner's Assistant Stainton, Westmorland, England
Caroline S Rawes Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Confectioner's Assistant Stainton, Westmorland, England T
James W Rawes Son - Male 10 1891 - Stainton, Westmorland, England
George W Carnley Son-In-Law Married Male 21 1880 Insurance Agent Waterford, Lancashire, England
Mary A Carnley Daughter Single Female 20 1881 Confectioner's Assistant Stainton, Westmorland, England
John T Carnley Grand Son - Male 1 1900 - Cloughfold, Lancashire, England
Herbert Carnley Grand Son - Male 0 1901 - Cloughfold, Lancashire, England
Thomas H Swailes Boarder Single Male 23 1878 Weigher Coal At Station Yard Colne, Lancashire, England

Robert Rawes

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
15, Charles Street, Town, Lancaster, Lancashire, England


Robert Rawes Head Married Male 29 1872 General Labourer Stainton, Westmorland, England
Isabella Rawes Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Kendal, Westmorland, England T
Annie E Rawes Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Lancaster, Lancashire, England

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
New Row, Stainton, Kendal, Westmorland, England

John Rawes Head Married Male 59 1822 General Labourer Old Hutton, Westmorland, England
Isabella Rawes Wife Married Female 37 1844 - Kendal, Westmorland, England
John Rawes Son Single Male 12 1869 Scholar Stainton, Westmorland, England
Robert Rawes Son Single Male 10 1871 Scholar Stainton, Westmorland, England
James Rawes Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Stainton, Westmorland, England
Richard Wilson Step Son Single Male 4 1877 Scholar Milnthorpe, Westmorland, England
Ester H Rawes Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Stainton, Westmorland, England
Mary A Rawes Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Stainton, Westmorland, England

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Jerry Cottages, Deer Park, Preston Richard, Kendal, Westmorland, England

Henry Dennison Head Married Male 31 1860 General Labourer Westmorland, England Transcription
Eliz Dennison Wife Married Female 31 1860 - Westmorland, England
John Dennison Son Single Male 7 1884 Scholar Old Hutton, Westmorland, England Transcription
Mary E Dennison Daughter Single Female 5 1886 - Westmorland, England
John H Rawes Boarder Single Male 5 1886 - Milnthorpe, Westmorland, England Transcription <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Robert Rawes Boarder Single Male 19 1872 General Labourer Stanton, Westmorland, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Possible death of John Henry Rawes ??

John Rawes
in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: John Rawes
Birth Date: abt 1884
Date of Registration: Jun 1936
Age at Death: 52
Registration district: Warrington
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 133


I can't see John Henry in any censuses.

1901 for Janet's parents and sisters,

England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
12, Cross Street, Windermere, Kendal, Westmorland, England

Hartley Coward Head Married Male 36 1865 Woodman Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Coward Wife Married Female 44 1857 - Windermere, Westmorland, England
Sarah W Coward Daughter Single Female 12 1889 - Windermere, Westmorland, England
Maggie J Coward Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Windermere, Westmorland, England

John G Kemshell on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Kemshell Household (3 People) 16 Milton Street , Doncaster C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
John G Kemshell 23 Oct 1911 Male General Labourer Married 162 1
Mary H Kemshell 15 Mar 1916 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 162 2
Ronald H Kemshell 06 Mar 1936 Male Under School Age Single 162 3

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