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can anyone help with Millicent Osborne b1880

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Sandra

Sandra Report 14 Oct 2014 14:55

Hi can anyone suggest how to look for someone that seems to just disappear.
My great grandmother Millicent Osborne b 1880 Coventry is in the census records and she married my Great grandfather Albert Wallace in Nov 1900 in Coventry. In the 1911 census my great grandfather listed himself as widowed but we know this is not true. She left him and her children for whatever reason and was later seen some years later shopping in Coventry but nobody in the family really knows what happened to her.
I have found a Millicent Osborne married to Albert Tooby in 1933 in Rugby and also Millicent Wallace married to William Brown in 1918in Aston irmingham.
I do not know if she did in fact re- marry or even if they were divorced.
Any ideas how I can find out what happened to her I would be really grateful for. Sandra Martin

Catherine

Catherine Report 14 Oct 2014 15:00

Do you have her exact date of birth, this may help find a possible death for her?

Catherine

Catherine Report 14 Oct 2014 15:07

I wonder?

1911 England Census about Mrs Millicent Osborne
Name: Mrs Millicent Osborne
Age in 1911: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: 133 Highfield Rd Saltley
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Shirt Maker
Registration district: Aston
Registration District Number: 385
Sub-registration district: Erdinton
ED, institution, or vessel: 49
Piece: 18368
Household Members:
Name Age
Ada Florence Wadsworth 42
Gladys Olga May Wadsworth 17
Eric William Douglas Wadsworth 12
Leslie Clarence Wadsworth 10
Phyllis Vera Wadsworth 5
Esme Kathleen Wadsworth 3

Millicent Osborne 27
Darrell Vivian Osborne 3

will check for a marriage for this lady.


EDIT:- Can probably eliminate this one as there are two possible marriages for this one.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 14 Oct 2014 15:09

Name: Millicent Osborne
Age (Original): 1
Gender: Female
Birth Year: 1880
Birthplace: Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Address: 1 Leicester St 4 Ct
Event Place: Coventry Holy Trinity (With St Peter), Warwickshire, England
Record Type: Household
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 3074 / 87
Page Number: 11
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Thomas Osborne Head M 33 Shelton, Warwickshire, England
Hannah Osborne Wife F 37 Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Elizabeth Osborne Daughter F 9 Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Susan Jane Osborne Daughter F 7 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Tom Osborne Daughter Son M 4 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Millicent Osborne Daughter F 1 Coventry, Warwickshire, England
GS Film number: 1341733

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 14 Oct 2014 15:11

Name: Millicent Osborne
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year: 1900
Registration District: Coventry
County: Warwickshire
Event Place: Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Volume: 6D
Page: 1021
Line Number: 286

Millicent Osborne probably married one of the following people
Name: Albert Wallace

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 14 Oct 2014 15:12

Name: Henry Stanley Wallace
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 10 May 1905
Christening Place: Coventry, Warwick, England
Father's Name: Albert Wallace
Mother's Name: Millicent
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01484-0 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1067419 , Reference ID: 1713

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 14 Oct 2014 15:12

Name: Herbert Wallace
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 12 Jul 1901
Christening Place: St. Marks, Coventry, Warwick, England
Father's Name: Albert Wallace
Mother's Name: Milicent Wallace
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01323-3 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1067459 , Reference ID: item 6 p 78

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 14 Oct 2014 15:13

Name: Albert Wallace
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 12 Jul 1901
Christening Place: St. Marks, Coventry, Warwick, England
Father's Name: Albert Wallace
Mother's Name: Milicent Wallace
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01323-3 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1067459 , Reference ID: item 6 p 78

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 14 Oct 2014 15:15

???????????

Name: Millicent Wallace
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1918
Registration District: Aston
County: Warwickshire
Event Place: Aston, Warwickshire, England
Spouse Name (available after 1911): Brown
Volume: 6D
Page: 828
Line Number: 41

Millicent Wallace probably married one of the following people
Name: William Brown

Catherine

Catherine Report 14 Oct 2014 15:41

Is this not him in 1911?

1911 England Census about Albert Wallace
Name: Albert Wallace
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Coventry
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: 38 Wells Street Coventry
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Carter
Registration district: Coventry
Registration District Number: 390
Sub-registration district: Holy Trinity
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 18540
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Cox 63
Ada Cox 39
Albert Wallace 30
Albert Wallace 11
Herbert Wallace 11
Harry Wallace 6
George Cox 26
Samuel Cox 24
William Cox 22

He states here he is married?

EDIT:- OK so original does state widower!

Catherine

Catherine Report 14 Oct 2014 15:46

If she did leave Albert for someone else but the couple didn't divorce, then she may have had to wait until after Albert's death to marry?

Deaths Dec 1929 (>99%)
Wallace Albert 49 Coventry 6d 731

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 14 Oct 2014 15:52

message sent to Sandra to return

Catherine

Catherine Report 14 Oct 2014 15:52

1901 she is noted as Minnie:-

1901 England Census about Minnie Wallace
Name: Minnie Wallace
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Albert Wallace
Birth Place: Coventry, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Coventry
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Coventry
Sub-registration District: Holy Trinity
ED, institution, or vessel: 09
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2910
Folio: 210
Page Number: 18
Household schedule number: 112
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Wallace 20
Minnie Wallace 20
Albert Wallace 2/12
Herbert Wallace 2

.....................so maybe????

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Minnie Wallace
Name: Minnie Wallace
Probate Date: 10 May 1951
Death Date: 20 Mar 1951
Death Place: Coventry
Registry: Birmingham, England

.................of 24 Grove Street , Widow, Probate to George Wallace bricklayers labourer and John Yates hospital steward

Catherine

Catherine Report 14 Oct 2014 16:02

Death may not be correct as this looks to be the record:-

Deaths Mar 1951 (>99%)
WALLACE Minnie 78 Nuneaton 9c 1323
(dob = 1873)

..........so date of birth would not be correct.

Sandra

Sandra Report 15 Oct 2014 14:44

Hi Catherine, some of what you've found I already have.
Birth date is 1880 +-1 no more. I don't know what to think about her situation. I think she left for someone else but don't know if she used married name Wallace or refered to herself as maiden name Osborne. My great grand father would only say she's dead and not talk about her and neither would my grand dad Herbert. I was told she went up to my grand dads twin some time after the war and to tell him who she was but he wouldn't have anything to do with her.
I haven't found any death record that looks like it may have been her.
Many thanks for all your help.
Sandra

Sandra

Sandra Report 11 Jul 2020 16:34

Despite lots of help from Ann Cardiff and Catherine I am still no further forward with finding out what happened to my great grandmother Millicent Osborne also known as Minnie Wallace After 6 more years of searching I feel like giving up but can't seen to stop myself. I need a new way of going forward. I have gone sideways and back but still no luck I have looked at overseas records with no luck. Ship logs with no luck although thought I had her for a while.
What happened to Millicent Wallace nee Osbourne sometimes known as Minnie??

greyghost

greyghost Report 11 Jul 2020 16:58

If you have an exact DOB for her there is a possibility that she could be found on the 1939 register if still alive. This would depend on the record there being correct of course. Many records seem to pop up with day and month correct, but the year out.

She could also have taken up with someone else and be living under his name, there's nothing to say she kept her married name or reverted to her maiden name.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 11 Jul 2020 17:00

Birth is easily found on freebmd JAS qtr 1879

If you obtain a copy of the cert, you’ll know her exact DOB, which could prove helpful

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Jul 2020 17:11

Unfortunately, some people do just seem to disappear from the records, in spite of exhaustive searching.

I'm sure most of us have someone like that in our trees. I certainly have.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 11 Jul 2020 19:29

This one would be the right age:

Minnie Wallace
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Minnie Wallace
Death Age: 82
Birth Date: abt 1880
Registration Date: Apr 1962
[May 1962]
[Jun 1962]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5e
Page: 421