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Hi...I have put all the info given on here to my tree and also private messages sent to me by the other posters on here. I have now got all the info on 1 sister (Catherine) and all the info on Anna or Annie until her husbands death in 1943 but nothing at all after that.

As for Margaret, I heard from daughter of one of her brothers who went to Montréal. From the info given by her it looks like the Margaret Mcmackin I saw ages ago on the 1952 & 1955 US city directories (see post at 20.10hrs on 22 Feb 2014) is the correct one. I was told that she was a domestic servant in White Plains and the address showing in that post is in New Rochelle which I believe is in White Plains and she married late in life, the other info I received seemed to indicate she married after 1958. She was later admitted to a physciatric hospital in New York where she later died. The brother had been notified of the death so it must have been before his own death which was in Nov 1973.

Was therefore wondering if she got married to one of the family she was the domestic servant for ? Would the US City Directories give the names of all the adult residents in the house ?

Still haven't found anything on the youngest sister Hannah apart from the 1930 census entry....in previous post on 22 Feb I mentioned 4 possible Hannah's with her date of birth so was wondering if any of them may be on a later census (1940 ?) showing as being born in Ireland

James

:-D :-D :-D :-D

Mo - they were custom made for me, obviously they have to be a precise fit otherwise terrible injuries could be inflicted.

This was an early prototype http://goo.gl/gJJdJG

Good morning!

I haven't even had a cup of coffee yet and you two are all sorted out!

Marie-I think I may invest in a pair of mathsticks.Where did you purchase yours? :-D

Moxx

Hi James, have received it and replied with details of a contact.

Hi Marie...I have forwarded the copy of the obit with the unusual names that Maureen sent me to your personal inbox on here.

Regards
James

Maureen - that was not a typo, they're special props for eyes that are tired from calculating ages on arrival, year of marriage on census etc. :-D ;-)

If you don't mind sending me the obit that has the unusual names on (or telling me where to find it) then I can dig around the public records index and see if I can come up with anything for James.

:-) :-) :-)

James- meet mgnv.
Malcolm's links are to be trusted. <3

Just a laugh-but at some point when Marie contacted me about this thread she said she was so tired that she needed "mathsticks" to keep her eyes open.

;-)
Best wishes,
Maureen

Hi Marie....I have an account with ancestry but just a basic one...not the worldwide one which costs about £19 per month to access. I can get free access from the family history centre about 15 mins walk from here. Was there a couple of days last week but as I am back at work again on Monday after a week off, I can only go there on their 1 evening they are open on a Tuesday night.

Maureen....the obituary details I have still to put the details onto my tree. Have put all the info on the tree that is showing on this thread .Will put the other details on tomorrow and see where to go from there...getting late now as 12.30am here.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X4GV-N6J
Household ID: 75
Affiliate Film Number: 1666
GS Film number: 2341400
Digital Folder Number: 004638880
Image Number: 00460

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X4GJ-TMM
Household ID: 185
Affiliate Film Number: 1665
GS Film number: 2341399
Digital Folder Number: 004638879
Image Number: 00941

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X4GJ-RN2
Household ID: 69
Affiliate Film Number: 1665
GS Film number: 2341399
Digital Folder Number: 004638879
Image Number: 01019

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X4GQ-1GH
Household ID: 1
Line Number: 2
Affiliate Film Number: 1659
GS Film number: 2341393
Digital Folder Number: 004638873
Image Number: 00937



Magnify 4 clicks, then save image:
https://archive.org/stream/newyorkcensus00reel1666#page/n455/mode/1up
https://archive.org/stream/newyorkcensus00reel1665#page/n936/mode/1up
[addy=10 Home St; pob=Irish Free State - doesn't quite fit, but...]
https://archive.org/stream/newyorkcensus00reel1665#page/n1014/mode/1up
[a=17, not 21 (says employers); immig 1929; pob=NI]
https://archive.org/stream/newyorkcensus00reel1659#page/n933/mode/1up

You can search via:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_STATES
Including the 1925 NY census and the US 1940 census - the latter's hits have a free image link

James,

The obituary for Francis Mathers also has some very unusual names. Easily traced using Google.

Would you be comfortable contacting them yourself?

Maureen

James, I haven't come across any marriages to match those names but it may well be that they married after the available records end - not all records are on line. The Westchester Archives go to 1935.

I think you may be able to send for the social security records but they cost round $30 each.

Can I ask what access to US records you have (e.g. Ancestry Worldwide)? Just so can have a think about where to go next. Some of the O'Shea sons may very well still be alive - tracing one of them may answer your questions.

Thanks, Marie Celeste & Maureen for all the info so far. Regarding youngest of the 4 sisters Hannah, there are 4 Hannah's on the US Social Security Death Index all with the same date of birth as her (7 Aug 1909) so was wondering if any of these were her married name. If so do you know of any marriage details. They are

Hannah Berger. Died 14 April 1995.
Hannah Hall. Died June 1979.
Hannah Marantz. Died 24 May 1996.
Hannah Shea. Died August 1987.

Margaret McMackin - The US City Directories in 1952 & 1955 show a Margaret McMackin as a domestic at 120 Elk Avenue ?. Would this be the same one as the one on my tree. I don't have the documents with me, they were seen in the local family history centre here a few days ago. Is it possible that Margaret never married as not on the Westchester County Archives details sent to me earlier by Marie....then again neither was Hannah and she may be one of the 4 listed above.

Well done.Marie!

Moxxx

Have sent James an article about Daniel O'Shea's untimely death in Dec 1943.

Further info:

U.S., Headstone Applications for Military Veterans, 1925-1963

Name: Daniel O'Shea Jr
Birth Date: 20 Sep 1894
Death Date: 9 Dec 1943
Cemetery: Mt Calvary Cemetery
Cemetery Location: White Plains, New York

Confirms his wife as Annie O'Shea of 22 Home Street, White Plains.

A link to his WW1 draft
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-26609-23076-25?cc=1968530&wc=M9W1-ZPF:458854348

And later on

1940 United States Federal Census

Name: Daniel O'Shea Senior
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Irish Free State
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Home in 1940: White Plains, Westchester, New York

Street: Home Street
House Number: 10
Farm: No
Inferred Residence in 1935: White Plains, Westchester, New York
Residence in 1935: Same House

Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 10B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation: 167
House Owned or Rented: Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented: 30
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 8th grade
Weeks Worked in 1939: 0
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: Yes

Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel O'Shea 45 - No occupation shown
Anna O'Shea 38
Daniel O'Shea 17
John O'Shea 15
William O'Shea 12
Patrick O'Shea 10
Hennry O'Shea 8
Timothy O'Shea 1

Here they are in 1930:

1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Anne Oshea
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1901
Birthplace: Irish Free State
Race: White
Home in 1930: White Plains, Westchester, New York

Marital Status: Married
Immigration Year: 1920
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's Name: Daniel Oshea
Father's Birthplace: Irish Free State
Mother's Birthplace: Irish Free State
Age at first marriage: 22

Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Oshea 35 - Fireman on railroads.
Anne Oshea 29
Daniel Oshea 7
John Oshea 5
William Oshea 2
Frances Oshea 3 [3 6/12]

Street address looks like Home Street.

Have found Annie Maria's other half now (no special trick, just dogged determination)

O'Shea Daniel 37062 1922

Wonder if this is where the Shea connection might have come from?

Thanks Maureen...message received ok in my inbox

Hi James,

I'm sending you a copy of the obituary for one of Hugh and Catherine's children (Francis H Mathers).

Just check your Messages Inbox.

Maureen