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Hi, :-)
After hours of struggling , I am now asking for anyone who can look at what I have and see if you can add to it :-)
not much to go on ,
William Dickie married Marguerite Cairns 17th April 1903 in Glasgow.
they had the following children ,
James Dickie 1903
Margaret Dickie 1905
Mary Jane Dickie 1909
William Dickie 1912
John 1915.

any help greatfully recieved <3

Eilleen.

Where have you looked? BMD in scotland are on scotlandspeople

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

If you have documentary evidance to back it up? if so then add it

Roy

Mary Jane was born in Rutherglen. Do you know what William and Marguerite's parents were caled?

Hi Roy,

The only imformation is limited ,
it came from William Dickie's war papers.
He joined in 1915 in Glasgow.
but ended up in Lincoln England , with another woman in 1918.
I wondered about his life before , and if He went back to his wife and children.

Eilleen.

Ok so this is him.


British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 about William Dickie
Name: William Dickie
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Age at Enlistment: 36
Residence: 27 Monteith St, Bridgeton Glasgow
Document Year: 1915
Regimental Number: 71504
Regiment Name: Royal Regt of Artillery RH & RFA
Number of Images: 2


He was a wood machinist, born in Lanark and married to Maggie Cairns. John was born Bridgeton, Glasgow 15/12/1915. He was discharged in 1918, permanent address was 168 Graeme St., Gallowgate Glasgow.
He then joined the Labour Corps 3/06/19, wife Margarite Dickie of Calton, Glasgow. He was discharged in 1920, address 8 Steep? Hill, Lincoln.

The best way to clarify that his war record is correct is to start by getting a copy of his marriage cert, Scotish certs give more info than England and Wales certs

scotlands people is a pay per view site you need to buy credits to see the certs so i don't think anyone else will spend their money looking for you,

Roy

alviegal.

Thank you for your time, I do not feel so alone :-)

Eilleen

Margerite,.... Marguerite,....Margaret,....Maggie,......Cairns is returning no results (exact match)for a marriage in 1903 on scotlandspeople

William Dickie returns 8 matches

Roy

???


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about William Dickie
Name: William Dickie
Birth Date: abt 1879
Date of Registration: Mar 1944
Age at Death: 65
Registration District: Lincoln
Inferred County: Lincolnshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 576

alviegal,

If that is his death, then He never returned to his wife and children.

One son James Dickie , that his father says was born 19th July 1903 ,

may have come to Lincoln at some point around 1920s. and married my relative.

I have a week of work, and I am trying to nail William's family down, what a start, been on the computer for 10 hours on and off :-S :-0 :-0

This is in the correct area

1901

Name: William Dickie
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: George Dickie
Mother's Name: Helen Dickie
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/4
Registration District: Calton
Civil Parish: Glasgow Calton
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Tobago St 69
Occupation: Cumera Machine Man
ED: 40
Household Schedule Number: 110
Line: 5
Roll: CSSCT1901_282
Household Members:
Name Age
George Dickie 57 b. Tarbolton, Ayrshire, occ. Camera Maker (wood)
Helen Dickie 57 b. Star, Ayrshire
William Dickie 22
Helen Dickie 15

1881

Name: George Dickie
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Helen Dickie
Gender: Male
Where born: Tarbolton, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 648
Registration District: Lanark
Civil Parish: Lanark
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Wellgatehead
Occupation: Fancy Box Maker
ED: 8
Household Schedule Number: 85
Line: 24
Roll: cssct1881_261
Household Members:
Name Age
George Dickie 37
Helen Dickie 37
George Dickie 15
Matthew Dickie 10
Robert Dickie 8
John Dickie 8
William Dickie 2
Hugh Dickie 4 M



1903 DICKIE WILLIAM CAIRNS MAGGIE CALTON (GLASGOW) GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/04 0161

Married at 69 Tobago Street (home address of both bride and groom)
William aged 24 son of George Dickie and Helen Dickie maiden surname Wilson.
Maggie Cairns, aged 19, curtain hemmer daughter of James Cairns Coal Miner and Mary Jane Cairns maiden surname Rennie.
Witnesses Nellie Dickie and John Thornton.


So above census is the correct one for William and his parents.

1901 census transcription details for: 29, Newhall Street, Glasgow
Print Close

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 644
Folio: 28
Page: 20
Reg. District: Bridgeton
Sub District:
Parish: Glasgow
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: Barony
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 29, Newhall Street, Glasgow
County: Lanarkshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
CAIRNS, James Head Married M 57 1844 Coal Miner
Duntocher, Lanarkshire
CAIRNS, Mary Jane Wife Married F 40 1861
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
CAIRNS, Margaret Daughter Single F 17 1884 Curtin Binder
Glasgow, Lanarkshire

Possible death for William's wife - sorry have no credits left at the moment to look at it.

1922 DICKIE MARGARET CAIRNS F 38 DENNISTOUN GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/04 0746

(Dennistoun is esay walking distance from either Tobago Street (Calton) or Monteith Street, Bridgeton)

rootgatherer. wow :-D

A question , what would be a Cumera Machine Man .

going to re- read what has been found to open up this family to Me , after 6 years of

looking . :-0

Well found Alviegal, I just wasn't seeing Maggie with her family on Ancestry - maybe mistranscribe.

I do not know what time you friendly bunch go to bed :-)

but my eye's are sore and my head is buzzing ,

bet I do not get much sleep, the Dickie's will be muddling my brain.

massive thank you , see you in the morning <3

Eilleen.

On earlier census George is listed as a Fancy Box maker, so just guessing it is probably some sort of wood turning machine?

The marriage certificate was available online from Scotlandspeople. You can look on there for William's birth and his pafrents marriages and deaths. £7 for 30 credits. 1 credit to view search results and 5 to view / download certificate.

Well, just to make your head buzz even more..........William's father George was born in Ayrshire and there are quite a few Dickies in that area. And loads of Wilsons (his mother's maiden surname) in Ayrshire too.

Cumera Machine Man is probably mistranscribed and should be Camera Machine Man

Roy

1861

Name: George Dickie
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Matthew Dickie
Mother's Name: Christanie Dickie
Gender: Male
Where born: Tarbolton, Ayrshire
Registration Number: 604
Registration District: Mauchline
Civil Parish: Mauchline
Town: Mauchline
County: Ayrshire
Address: Loudoun St
Occupation: Snuff Box Maker
ED: 8
Household Schedule Number: 73
Line: 17
Roll: CSSCT1861_88
Household Members:
Name Age
Matthew Dickie 53 b. Tarbolton, Sawyer and Joiner
Christanie Dickie 52 b. Auchinleck
Matthew Dickie 20
George Dickie 17
Jean W Dickie 14
Janet Stevenson 10 Niece, b. Paisley



(Wonder if the Snuff boxes that George was making were Mauchline ware? They'd be worth a few bob now)

1851

Name: George Dickie
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Mathew Dickie
Mother's Name: Margaret Dickie
Gender: Male
Where born: Tarbolton, c ayr
Parish Number: 619
Civil Parish: Tarbolton
Town: Tarbolton
County: Ayrshire
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 5
Page: 45 (click to see others on page)
Household Schedule Number: 192
Line: 1
Roll: CSSCT1851_139
Household Members:
Name Age
Mathew Dickie 45
Margaret Dickie 47 b. Kilwinning
John S Dickie 15
Margt Dickie 12
Mathew Dickie 10
George Dickie 8
Jane Dickie 4


1841

Name: Matthew Dickie
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Ayrshire, Scotland

Civil Parish: Tarbolton
County: Ayrshire
Address: Village Of Failford
Occupation: Hone V Strap M
Parish Number: 619
Household Members:
Name Age
Matthew Dickie 30
Margaret Dickie 30
Hugh Dickie 13
Ann Dickie 10
John Dickie 5
Margaret Dickie 3
Matthew Dickie 6 Mo