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Thanks Patchem :-) everything helps with this branch.

Harry, Harry please come out of hiding!

Sue x

Well spotted Patchem..............it's just Harry who has gone awol then.

Prickles. x

Prickly Holly,

Hannah Maria is down as Anne Maria in 1891. (The 8 should read 3- image quality poor?)

She has not vanished.

mgnv thanks :-) I have....

Harry Death
1881 – 1936

Anne Maria Dauth
1883 –

Ethel Death
1884 –

Florence Death
1886 –

Elizabeth Death
1891 –

Emma Death
1898 -


So I will look again.

The baptism for Harry's father is transcribed as John James but the original definitely looks like John Thomas.

They have to be somewhere, staying with someone.

There are so many mistranscriptions for their surname :-(

..West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
about Florence Death Name: Florence Death
Parish: Sandal, St Catherine
Baptism Date: 20 Jan 1889
Father's Name: John Thomas Death
Mother's Name: Alice Death


West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
about Anna Maria Death Name: Anna Maria Death
Birth Date: 19 Jun 1888
Parish: Sandal, St Catherine
Baptism Date: 20 Jan 1889
Father's Name: John Thomas Death
Mother's Name: Alice Death


I'm not seeing baptism's for Hannah, Elizabeth and Emma.

(Thats a point.......where is Hannah in 1891?)


..West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
about Hannah Maria Death (Spinster) Alverthorpe
Birth Year: abt 1888
Age: 27
Marriage or Bann Date: 19 Jun 1915
Parish: Alverthorpe, St Paul
Father's Name: John Thomas Death (Labourer) Deceased
Spouse's Name: James William Franks (Bachelor) Ryhill
Spouse's Father's Name: David Franks (Mariner)
Witnesses: Thomas Kershaw and Florence Death



..West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
about Emma Deathe (Spinster) Alverthorpe
Birth Year: abt 1898
Marriage or Bann Date: 17 Apr 1922
Parish: Alverthorpe, St Paul
Father's Name: John Thomas Deathe (Labourer) Deceased
Spouse's Name: Percy Gaut (Warehouseman) Alverthorpe
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas William Gaut (Electrical Engineer)
Witnesses: Elsie Holroyd and Wilfred Jant

It seems Hannah has vanished along with Harry in 1891!

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: DEATH, Alice
Address: 22 Highfield Terrace Alverthorpe Wakefield

DEATH, Alice Head Widow F 51 1860 Birstal Yorkshiere VIEW
DEATH, Hannah Maria Daughter Single F 22 1889 Twister At Cloth Mill Belle Vue Yorkshire VIEW
DEATH, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 20 1891 Twister At Cloth Mill Belle Vue Yorkshire VIEW
DEATH, Emma Daughter F 13 1898 School Kirkhamgate Yorkshire VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 27400
Reference: RG14PN27400 RG78PN1567 RD504 SD4 ED24 SN223
Registration District: Wakefield
Sub District: Wakefield
Enumeration District: 24
Parish: Wakefield
Address: 22 Highfield Terrace Alverthorpe Wakefield
County: Yorkshire (West riding)
(8 children born, 5 living, 3 had died)


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about John T Death Name: John T Death
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1911
Age at Death: 57
Registration District: Wakefield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 28


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Alice Death Name: Alice Death
Birth Date: abt 1860
Date of Registration: Dec 1930
Age at Death: 70
Registration District: Wakefield
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 25

Good morning,

Thanks for your continued help. Late last night I confirmed the Snowden marriage and Harry's Father as John Thomas Death ( M/T as Dauth on one census).

I was waiting for a light bulb moment which never came hoping I could find Harry with grandparents but as of 2 a.m. I couldn't :-(

I have an appointment this morning so back later.

Thanks to all again.

Sue

Although it has been crossed out and alterered on the 1881 census...

The Ecclesiastical Parish or District is.......St Catherines.

Which is the place of abode stated on Harry's baptism record.

Assuming then that an error was made on the record and his Father's name is John Thomas Death and not John James.......

Second born child to John and Alice is Ethel....



..West Yorkshire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1910
about Ethel Death Name: Ethel Death
Parish: Sandal, St Catherine
Baptism Date: 2 Dec 1883
Abode: St Catherine
Father's Name: John Thomas Death (Labourer)
Mother's Name: Alice Death

I am off on the hunt again for Harry and will report back if and when i find him!!!

Using http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/
Yorkshire Birth indexes for the years:
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
1881 DEATH Harry Sandal Wakefield SNOWDEN SAN/37/35
1883 DEATH Ethel Sandal Wakefield SNOWDEN SAN/42/30
1884 DEATH William Stanley Wakefield (NONE) STA/34/49
1885 DEATH Florence Sandal Wakefield SNOWDEN SAN/47/30
1888 DEATH Hannah Maria Sandal Wakefield SNOWDEN SAN/52/73
1891 DEATH Elizabeth Sandal Wakefield SNOWDEN SAN/57/76

Marriages Sep 1880 (>99%)
Death John Thomas Wakefield 9c 33
HEBDEN Fred Wakefield 9c 33
Hodgson Catherine Wakefield 9c 33
Snowden Alice Wakefield 9c 33

It's not clear to me that Wm is a sibling of all the others - he's the only one born in Stanley subdistrict, and he looks like he's illegitimate to me.

Thanks for all your help, I'll keep looking and check back here tomorrow.

xx

Hmmmm!

My brain is in a muddle so i will check back on here tomorrow Sue.

Prickles. x

Oooer that seems a bit of a mix up! Borstal/Burstall but that fits in with the 1901 census........so where is Harry?

John T Death 47
Alice Death 41
Ethel Death 17
Florence Death 15
Hannah Death 12
Elizabeth Death 10
Emma Death 3

Is this odd or just a coincidence??

On the 1881 census, Father John (General Labourer) age 24...born Wathsfield Suffolk.

Wife Alice...age 21....born Borstal Yorkshire.



..1891 England Census
about John Thomas Dauth Name: John Thomas Dauth
[John Thomas Death]
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice Dauth
Gender: Male
Where born: Wattisfield, Suffolk, England

Civil Parish: Sandal Magna
Ecclesiastical parish: St Catherine
Town: Belle Vue
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Wakefield
Sub-registration District: Sandal
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3743
Folio: 111
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
John Thomas Dauth 36 (General Labourer)
Alice Dauth 32 ....Born Burstall Yorkshire
Ethel Dauth 7
Florence Dauth 5
Anne Maria Dauth 8
Elizabeth Dauth 2/12

Thanks Tom, I'll have a look in a mo.

PH I have been struggling for 24 hours :-(

HI PricklyHolly

I assume she is the tree owner !!

Tom

Struggling to find the 1891 at the moment!

Who is Angie?

You might like to check the public tree section on Genes as there is this

Harry Death 1881 Wakefield West Yorks... No Angie

Tom

So it looks likely that John and Alice were his parents, thanks to all for that. 1881 is sorted so I am left with the 1891 mystery :-(

Sue