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Derek

You are not too much of a pain compared to some that ask for help.

Come back when you get some more info such as the occupation of Arthur from the marriage cert as that will help rule out the possible 1891 posting

Also some details from the cert about Alice such as name of father and his occupation.

Any extra info you can give will be useful

GB

This is from Yorkshire BMD. I would interpret that as an Arthur R and Alice marrying in St Thomas, York.

THOMAS Alice WILSON Arthur R St Thomas, York York STHO/3/9

I'm not seeing a marriage for them on the Stockton Roots site.

Will need to read the thread again re 1891 query

Vera

The parents for Alice and for Arthur Russel do look ok BUT thee main question remain:-
where was Arthur Russel Wilson on 5 April 1891 and when did he pop his clogs?
The answer may well be bound up in where the marriage was-near York or in Stockton. My data on this was from my friend. Around that time the area in which Stockton is, crossed the tees, and some references give County confusingly as 'Durham and county of north Yorkshire'.
Guess I am going to have to do a bit more clarifying myself and perhaps return later. Thanks for your help folks, hope that I have not been too much of a pain.

So was the 1891 posted for his parents right or wrong

What about the information posted on Alice Thomas is that right or wrong.

Why have you said the marriage took place at Stockton on Tees when it appears to have been registered in York ?

Apologies folks and many thanks for your very prompt (unexpectedly so) responses.
Re Prickly Holly: I agree that there are many Arthur Wilsons born around and living around the same area; even more just outside Tees area. Sadly no Arthur R. or Arthur Russel Wilson.
For all helpers-his wife's details are from Parish Records. Because he spent all his traceable time in Darlington/Stockton (including Norton) I have not searched in Yorkshire. My last certain placement of him is as a father on his son's wedding certificate at St Thomas, Stockton in 1921. His son married a lass from Stockton and the pub in which Arthur R worked in 1911 was (still exists) in Stockton - hence the assumption.

I have searched GR, Ancestry, Durham Archives, TeesValley, Family Search and Gravestone Photographic Resource (which had all Stockton area headstones up to about 1970). Hence my plea for help. It is beginning to look like the 1891 was missed because of transit and death may have been misplaced due to vestry fire or some such accident. But any other ideas are still most welcome.

I am actually searching on behalf of a genealogy friend, to whom I am linked via a distant relative of my wife.

The marriage posted by GB 16 Sep 2013 23:11 See below, ....is not listed on the marriage locator web site but it does give

Marriage Locator Search Results as,

GRO Index: 1896 quarter 2, volume 9d, page 91:

Sorry, we cannot locate the church for this marriage. The entry is located between entries for York St Olave (RD: York) and Hull St Barnabas (RD: Hull).

Marriages Jun 1896

BARKER Robert York 9d 91
Parkin Blanche York 9d 91
Thomas Alice York 9d 91
WILSON Arthur Russel York 9d 91

Roy

This is the Yorkshire marriage Glitter Baby put up. From Yorkshire BMD

1896 Marriages

THOMAS Alice WILSON Arthur R St Thomas, York York STHO/3/9

Vera

Your right Roy its PC not RC. I should have gone to you know where for my specs

Vera

Me too, only came back to the thread in the hope the OP had commented further to info found and questions asked

Roy

Roy

I have been confused all evening with this request

Did check out Yorkshire marriages and England marriages on Ancestry and did not find a match

So leaving it for the time being.

Maureen

Well matches the possible census for Alice

Wish the poster had not vanished so we could get questions answered.

Going to leave it for tonight.

The OP says In 1896 he married Alice Thomas in St Thomas PC at Stockton on Tees, County Durham.

but I cannot find that record, only the one in York posted by GB 23:11

Roy

Possibly Alice's baptism but then maybe not as she married in Catholic Church. EDIT now see its PC not RC.

Baptisms, Auckland District - Record Number: 849103.0
Location: Bishop Auckland
Church: Wesleyan Methodist Circuit
Denomination: Methodist
29 Mar 1868 Alice Thomas, of Witton Park, born 24 Feb 1868, daughter of Richard & Eleanor Thomas

Vera

yes certainly taking a long tonight posting and editing etc


Deaths Mar 1935 (>99%)
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Wilson Alice 66 Stockton 10a 94


Have you got this death cert for the name of the informant ?

Didn't see yours there Glitter Baby. I'm having to take ages editing the post as they go off the page! Yes, I agree. The records are just popping up.

Vera

Who witnessed the marriage of the son in 1921 ?

So is the father of Alice called Richard and occupation of inn keeper ?

Hi Vera,

The same one that I found so confused as to how we are finding things so easily that the poster is not


Maureen

1891 England Census about Alice Thomas

About Alice Thomas
Aged 23
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1868

Relation: daughter

Mother's Name: Elenor Thomas

Gender:Female

Where born: Witton Park, Durham, England

Civil Parish:Stockton on Tees
Ecclesiastical parish:St Thomas
County/Island:Durham
Country:England

Registration District:
Stockton
Sub-registration District:
Stockton

ED, institution, or vessel:
41

Piece:
4052

Folio:
114

Page Number:
22

Household Members:

Elenor Thomas 54
Alice Thomas 23
Elenor Thomas 19
Rose H Thomas 16
Richard H Thomas 14
Elizabeth Williams 42

Vera

:-S again

Marriages Jun 1896 (>99%)
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BARKER Robert York 9d 91
Parkin Blanche York 9d 91
Thomas Alice York 9d 91
WILSON Arthur Russel York 9d 91