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Hello again.

Could anyone look up a person on the 1891, 1881 and 1871 census please.

I'm looking for Owen Jones who was born about 1861, believed to be in Anglesey and moved to Liverpool.

He is on the 1901 and 1911 census as living in Liverpool married to Elizabeth and has 3 children, Joseph b.1896, Ellen b. 1898 and Owen b.1900

If it is also possible could anyone locate a birth ref for Ellen please.

Regards
Emily

For ref.

1911

Name: Owen Jones
Age in 1911: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 141 Hartnup Street
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Paperhager
Registration District: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration District: North Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Piece: 22506
Household Members:
Name Age
Owen Jones 50 Paper Hanger, b. Liverpool
Elizabeth Jones 48
Joseph Jones 15
Ellen Jones 13
Owen Jones 11

All born Liverpool although Owen has written "Welsh Descent"

Married 20 years, 4 children born, 4 living.

Use freebmd to look for all BMD's between 1837 and approx 1955

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

For Lancs............use

http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/

1901 - still all born Liverpool

Name: Owen Jones
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Jones
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration District: West Derby
Sub-registration District: North Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 273
Piece: 3475
Folio: 77
Page Number: 48
Household Members:
Name Age
Owen Jones 40
Elizabeth Jones 38
Joseph Jones 5
Ellen Jones 3
Owen Jones 1

1891
JONES, Rose Head Married F 65 1826
Anglesey, Wales VIEW
JONES, Owen Son Single M 30 1861 Paper Hanger
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
LIND, William Married M 26 1865 Dock Labourer
Sunderland VIEW
LIND, Jane Married F 24 1867
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
ELSTONE, Lea A Single F 36 1855 Sailmaker
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW

Piece: 2961

Folio: 16

Page: 28

Registration District: West Derby

Civil Parish: Kirkdale

Municipal Borough: Liverpool

Address: 51, Kirkstall Street, Kirkdale, Liverpool

County: Lancashire


emily, do you already have a thread on this family ?
Maddie

Other thread:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1328416

1871
JONES, Owen Head M 40 1831 Anglesey VIEW
JONES, Rose Wife F 44 1827 Anglesey VIEW
JONES, Hugh Son M 19 1852 Lancashire VIEW
OWENS, John Step-Son M 13 1858 North Wales VIEW
JONES, Owen Son M 10 1861 Lancashire VIEW
JONES, David Son M 7 1864 Lancashire VIEW
JONES, Jane Daughter F 4 1867 Lancashire VIEW

Piece: 3826

Folio: 56

Page: 47

Registration District: West Derby

Civil Parish: Kirkdale

Municipal Borough: Liverpool

Address: Cottage In Brickfield Top Of Brewster Street Westminster (Tunnell Cottage), Kirkdale, Liverpool

County: Lancashire

Using occupation as a search tool

1891 census

Person: JONES, Owen Address: 51, Kirkstall Street, Kirkdale, Liverpool

JONES, Rose Head Married F 65 1826
Anglesey, Wales VIEW
JONES, Owen Son Single M 30 1861 Paper Hanger
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
LIND, William Married M 26 1865 Dock Labourer
Sunderland VIEW
LIND, Jane Married F 24 1867
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
ELSTONE, Lea A Single F 36 1855 Sailmaker
Liverpool, Lancashire

1861 census


Person: JONES, Owen Address: 22, Louis Street, Liverpool

JONES, Owen Head Married M 29 1832 Masons Labourer
Anglesey, Hampshire VIEW *******************
JONES, Rose Wife Married F 33 1828
Keynes, Anglesey VIEW
JONES, Owen Son M 0 (3M) 1861
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
HUGHES, Owen Boarder Married M 60 1801 Stone Mason
Anglesea Cemas VIEW
HUGHES, William Boarder Married M 58 1803 Bricklayers Labourer
Anglesea Aberffraw VIEW
HUGHES, Robert Son Unmarried M 26 1835 Stone Mason
Anglesea Cemas VIEW
EDWARDS, Edward Son Unmarried M 21 1840 Stone Mason
Slaugham, Denbighshire VIEW
HUGHES, Jamal Son Married M 45 1816 Stone Mason
Anglesea Cemas

***********Aberffraw

Correction submitted

Owen Jones in household of John Williams, "England and Wales Census, 1881"
Name: Owen Jones
Age (Original): 20
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1861
Birthplace: Wales
Relationship to Head of Household: Boarder
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Paper Hanger
Address: 32 & 35 Public House Regent St
Event Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341863
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 3603 / 132
Page Number: 3
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head John Williams M 30 Channel Islands
Son Samuel Williams M 5 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Daughter Emma Williams F 4 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Son James F Williams M 2 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
House Keeper Rose Jones F 50 Wales
Boarder John Owens M 23 Wales
Boarder Owen Jones M 20 Wales
Boarder David Jones M 17 Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Servant Jenny Jones F 14 Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Please read site guidelines, Emily..................

One post per topic is one of the 'rules'..............intended to avoid duplication of research

They only just made it.....................lol!

JFM Qtr on freebmd

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1861
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference

JONES Owen HUGHES Rose Liverpool, St. David Liverpool

I wonder whether the Hugheses in 1861 are related?

Re Ellen's birth:

Perhaps Ellen wasn't her official birth name.

There were several Elizabeth Jones births in Liverpool in and around 1898 - Ellen could be a "pet" name to distinguish her from her mother.

Also this one might be a possibility:

Births Mar 1898 (>99%)
Jones Florence Ellen Liverpool 8b 123

More on that 1861 marriage:

Liverpool, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921

Name: Rose Hughes
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 11 Mar 1861
Parish: Liverpool, St David
Spouse's Name: Owen Jones , full age. A brickmaker
Father's Name: Owen Hughes - stone mason
Spouse Father's Name: David Jones - Labourer
Reference Number: 283 DAV/3/8

According to the record they were both of Liverpool, and both were widowed.

Witnesses: Owen Hughes and Jane Williams.

If Rose's widowed married name was Hughes, and her father was Hughes, the her first husband was a Hughes! (Unless, for some strange reason, the marriage was recorded in her maiden name).

(Have edited to provide more detail)

Births Sep 1897 (>99%)
Jones Ellen W. Derby 8b 345
Jones Ellen W. Derby 8b 538
Jones Ellen W. Derby 8b 331
Births Dec 1897 (>99%)
Jones Ellen W. Derby 8b 469
Births Jun 1898 (>99%)
Jones Ellen W. Derby 8b 480

Nice one MC...........looks like my 'theory' may be borne out...............

Rose Hughes, "England and Wales Census, 1841"
Name: Rose Hughes
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1841
Gender: Female
Age: 10
Birthplace: Anglesey
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: Anglesey
Sub-District: Llanddausaint
Parish: Llanbadrig
County: Anglesey

1841 census

Person: HUGHES, Rose Address: Cemaes, Llanbadrig, Cemmaes, Cemmaes, East Side

HUGHES, Owen M 35 1806 Anglesey VIEW
HUGHES, Jane F 40 1801 Anglesey VIEW
HUGHES, Rose F 10 1831 Anglesey VIEW
HUGHES, Catherine F 2 1839 Anglesey VIEW
HUGHES, Jane F 0 (2 months) 1841 Anglesey VIEW Piece: 1361 Book/Folio: 2/5 Page: 2 Registration District: Anglesey Civil Parish: Llanbadrig Municipal Borough: Cemmaes, East Side

1841 census

Person: JONES, Owen Address: Rallt, Aberffraw

JONES, David M 45 1796 Anglesey VIEW
JONES, Sarah F 45 1796 Anglesey VIEW
JONES, Mary F 14 1827 Anglesey VIEW
JONES, Anne F 12 1829 Anglesey VIEW
JONES, Owen M 10 1831 Anglesey VIEW
JONES, Margaret F 7 1834 Anglesey VIEW
JONES, Sarah F 5 1836 Anglesey