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I am trying to get a copy of the divorce

Margret''s birth cert
Harry is described as the father but given as deceased , he was a private in Kings Shropshire Regiment and a general Labourer for Shalford RD { Surrey ]

thanks to all for all your help

Mavis

This is the listing for Margery Alice's divorce record from National Archives:

Reference:J 77/1491/6077
Description: Divorce Court File: 6077.
Appellant: Harry Rowlands.
Respondent: Alice Marjorie Rowlands.
Co-respondent: Jack Edwards, struck through and Charles Henry Taylor.
Type: Husband's petition for divorce [hd].

Date: 1919
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Legal status: Public Record
Language: English

So it looks as though one of the two men mentioned may be the father of Margaret? If Margery was still married to Harry when Margaret was born then it's likely that Harry was named as father on birth certificate even if he wasn't. It may be worth ordering a copy of the divorce file to see what it says. I'm afraid those two names are too common to try and track without further info.

thank you so much MarieCeleste you have made my day and widened the White family

I am a sister in law of another Sister's child Margaret Rowlands 1917 illigit daughter of Margery Alice White she = Harry Rowlands 1907 . Margaret's father said to be a canadian army man ??

been trying to find a daughter of Harry and Margery born 3 rd March 1911
Annie Helena Alice Rowlands -- Harry and Margery divorced 1919 family moved back to shropshire where Harry came from - not found her after 1911 census

any ideas ??

loks as if the birth reg as Annie E A Rowlands

Mavis

Although the father's not a plumber, this 1901 seems to tie the immigration, marriage and service records together:

SWAN, John Head Married M 47 1854 Dock Labourer Kirmahoe, Dumfriesshire
SWAN, Susan Wife Married F 46 1855 Corstorphine, Edinburghshire
SWAN, Catherine Daughter F 13 1888 Scholar Edinr, Edinburghshire
SWAN, James Son M 10 1891 Scholar Edinr, Edinburghshire
SWAN, John Son M 8 1893 Scholar Edinr, Edinburghshire
SWAN, William Son M 6 1895 Scholar Edinr, Edinburghshire
SWAN, Robert Son M 2 1899 Edinr, Edinburghshire
SWAN, Lizzie Daughter Single F 17 1884 Servant Tablemaid Edinr, Edinburghshire

Piece: 685 Folio: 126 Page: 12
Registration District: St Andrew
Civil Parish: Edinburgh

Address: 67b, Cumberland Street, Edinburgh County: Midlothian

Possibly William's arrival in Canada:

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935

Name: William Swan
Gender: Male
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Birth Country: Scotland
Date of Arrival: 26 Feb 1913
Vessel: Scotian
Port of Arrival: Portland, Maine
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Roll: T-4693

Travelling with John Swan (20). They were going to an unnamed sister at 337 Chambord Street, Montreal.

There are three William Swan's in the Canadian Army, all of the right age. One is already married to an Arabel, the other has father Sam so that leaves this one:

Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
Name: William Swan
Residence: Montreal - 33 Concord Street
Birth Date: 4 Sep 1895
Birth Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Relative: Susan Swan
Relationship: Mother
Regiment Number: 511693

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-119.02-e.php?image_url=http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gat2/085313a.gif&id_nbr=260371

He's the only one of the three who was from Montreal, where Edith was headed.

His mother still lives in Edinburgh at 21 Jamaica Street.

Of course you may!

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Edith Swan
Gender: Female
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 5 Apr 1919
Vessel: Melita
Port of Arrival: St.John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14837

Married, travelling alone, headed to Montreal PQ

(Looks like the sisters may have been there for each other).

May I ask about another sister Edith Maud White who married William Swan 22y

Army Serv Corps - Canadian Army - Greyshott father John [dec] a plumber

wit G J Sto/ackdale - Emily Caine

7 th April 1917

Mavis

Ida arriving in Canada:

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935

Name: Ida O Lamarre
Gender: Female
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Birth Country: England
Date of Arrival: 10 Jan 1919
Vessel: Scandinavian
Port of Arrival: St John, New Brunswick
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Roll: T-14836

She's travelling with Harry R, 2 months old. Going to 288 Frontenac Street, Montreal.

ADDED:
The address on the military record for Henri looks like 15 Frontenac Street.

There's this record, but I'm not sure that the signature is the same as on the marriage:

Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918

Name: Henri Lamarre
Birth Date: 15 Mar 1896
Birth Location: Montreal
Relative: Mr G Lamarre
Relationship: Father
Regiment Number: 16961

image:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-119.02-e.php?image_url=http://data2.archives.ca/cef/gpc008/448665a.gif&id_nbr=509318

might be his attestation papers on this link

Just put in Lamarre, then scroll to Henri Lamarre, gives the same army number that Chris found for a medal card,

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-100.01-e.php

George

Ref to Bramshott camp, set up to house Canadian soldiers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bramshott_Camp

George

well you are all good searchers -- thank you so much

never thought to look at signature

thanks again

Mavis

ps just seen the address Ida was going too -- brother Leslie A J white married from this address in 1935

Might he be French/Canadian ??

This looks like Ida and children coming back from Canada in 1925.


UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Ida Lamarre
Name: Ida Lamarre
Birth Date: abt 1887
Age: 38
Port of Departure: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Arrival Date: 22 May 1925
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Empress of Scotland
Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of Scotland' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 144375

Travelling with Henry aged 7, Margaret 2 1/2 and Edith 4.

Address c/o Mrs. White, Bullers Rd., Weybourne, Nr. Farnham.

Dea x

Medal card of Lamarre, H. Corps: Canadian Infantry Battalion. Regiment No: 416961. Rank: Private.

(above from below, if him)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/medal-index-cards-ww1.htm

Chris :)

No help, but for ref:


1911 England Census about Ida White
Name: Ida White
Age in 1911: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Churt, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Frensham
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: Hatch Hill Bungalow, Hatch Hill, Churt
Occupation: School
Registration District: Farnham
Registration District Number: 34
Sub-registration District: Frensham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household Schedule Number: 256
Piece: 3136
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur White 47
Jane White 45
Arthur White 17
Willie White 8
Leslie White 2
Edith White 14
Ida White 12
Gladys White 4

Births Mar 1899 (>99%)
White Ida Olive Farnham 2a 144

Can't find any deaths for an Ida, Olive, or Ida Olive with any surname similar to Lamarre.
If Henry came from some other country, perhaps they moved there.

Clutching at straws a bit:

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Enrique Lamarre
Birth Date: abt 1899
Age: 7
Port of Departure: Quebec, Canada
Arrival Date: 16 Aug 1906
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Quebec
Ship Name: Empress of Ireland
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific Line
Official Number: 123972

Travelling with Agnes 36, Maria 12, Josefa 10.

Although the transcription says boarded Quebec it looks like some passengers boarded in Europe as pick up points include Lisbon. This family seem to have embarked at what looks like La Pallici

I've just had a look at the marriage register on Ancestry and he signed his name "Lamarre"

I think the surname is Lamarre, not Lanarre.
In the image on Ancestry, although the main part of the record says Lanarre, Henry's signature is clearly Lamarre, and the transcriber has put Lamarre.
His father's occupation is first written as Minister of Religion, then that's scored out, and Carpenter is substituted.


Surrey, England, Marriages, 1754-1937 about Henry Lamarre
Name: Henry Lamarre
Age: 22
Birth Year: abt 1896
Marriage Date: 22 Jun 1918
Archive Provided Parish: Churt, St John the Evangelist, with Rushmoor, St Francis
Parish as it Appears: Churt, St John the Evangelist
Spouse: Ida Olive White
Spouse Age: 20
Father: George Lamarre
Spouse Father: Arthur White
Reference Number: CHT/1/1/3