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OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOps forgot to mention that Thomas is missing from 1871 aswell!

Gill :-)

Hi everyone,
thanks for all your help, you are all tremendous. I don't know whether this clears things up but here goes...
Frances (Fanny) Hart born in 1842 had a daughter - Rosetta in 1864. Birth certificate shows no fahter's name. Frances marries Thoams Roberts in 1867 and Rosetta becomes Rosetta Roberts. Thomas and Frances have a daughter - Kate - in 1867 and a son Samuel in 1873. These two children were both born in London. Frances died in 1876 of smallpox in London. Rosetta appears as a servant in 1881 census in London. By that time Kate is in Leeds with her Uncle Samuel. Rosetta eventually comes to Leeds and marries George Morley and Samuel appears later in Leeds with Thomas and a new wife - Mary Ann Mayhew nee Standeven. I knew Rosetta was baptised as an adult in Haggerston and it looks from your info that Kate was also baptised in Haggerston. I cannot find Thomas in 1861 prior to his first marriage and in 1881 just after his first wife died.
Gill :-) :-) :-)

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
Kate & Rosetta Roberts
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 10 Dec 1873
Father's Name: Thomas Roberts Labourer
Mother's Name: Fanny Roberts
Parish or Poor Law Union: Haggerston St Augustine
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers



London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Rosetta Roberts
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 16 Jan 1879
Father's Name: Thomas Roberts<<Labourer in gas works
Mother's Name: Fanney Roberts
Parish or Poor Law Union Haggerston St Augustine
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers



West Yorkshire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935

Name: Rosetta Roberts
Birth Year: abt 1865
Age: 22
Marriage or Bann Date: 5 Feb 1887
Parish: Holbeck, St Matthew and New Wortley, St John the Baptist
Father's Name: Thomas Roberts Platelayer
Spouse's Name: George Morley
Spouse's Father's Name Robert Morley


All a bit odd, unless it's two different people?

London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911

Name: Kate Roberts
Age: 8
Birth Date: 30 Jul 1867
School: Atley Road School
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Admission Date: 22 Nov 1875
Parent: Thomas Roberts
Notes: Atley Road School (0173) opened in 1873. Remodelled in 1910. Renamed George Lansbury Primary School in 1951
Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV05/ATL/AD/008

Lol, so more names on the 'missing list' then...

(wonders if Gillian knows of these?)

Chris :)

Thomas had a daughter Kate born 31/7/1867 married Albert Coulson in 1888 in Leeds.
Rosetta Hart born Caxton Cambridgshire 24/8/1864 married George Henry Morley in Leeds named her dad on Banns as Thomas Roberts.

Can't find any of them 1871 so looks like name maybe mistranscribed.

Maryb.

(had a look round last night, but no luck)

Do you know where son Stanley was born?, as 1881 now says Caxton.

Was looking for Thomas on 1861, but couldn't see him, Fanny in Gamlingay.

Chris :)

So Annie wasnt the daughter of Thomas


1881 England Census
Name: Annie Mayhew
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Mayhew
Gender: Female
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Wortley in Bramley
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 21 Ducie Street

Registration district: Bramley
Sub-registration district: Wortley
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4504
Folio: 101
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Ann Mayhew 27
Charles G. Standheaven 12
John W. Mayhew 10
Annie Mayhew 1
Arthur Armitage 19
George Hare 20

Still cant track down Tho*
:-(



West Yorkshire, Non-Conformist Records, 1646-1985
Name: Annie Mayhew
Birth Date: 2 Dec 1879
Event Type: Baptism
Father: James Mayhew
Mother: Mary Ann Mayhew
Baptism Date: 17 Feb 1880
Archive Location: Leeds
Parish or Chapel: Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, New Wortley
Residence Place: Armley
Reel Number: Holbeck, Leeds, Meadow Lane, New Wortley; LNC 8
Reference Number: OP2/21

Son Samuel a pauper born 1874 in Caxton Workhouse Cambridge in 1881.

Maryb.

Thanks Chris - yes definitely him.

Gins - yes Thomas re-married in 1882 to a Mary Ann Mayhew in Bramley, Leeds.

K - yes Samuel was the son of the first marriage

1901
ROBERTS, Samuel Head Married M 55 1846 Sewerage Pipe Layer
Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire
ROBERTS, Samuel Son Single M 16 1885 Printers Apprentice
Leeds, Yorkshire
ROBERTS, Thomas Brother Widower M 62 1839 Retired Railway Engine Driver
Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire
Piece: 4209
Folio: 115
Page: 6
Registration District: Bramley
Civil Parish: Wortley
Municipal Borough:
Address: 39, Grange Street, Wortley
County: Yorkshire (West riding)

(no further forward!, just adding above, if him)

Chris :)

Samuel was the son of the first marriage?

So, did he marry again?


1891 England Census
about Thomas Roberts
Name: Thomas Roberts
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A Roberts
Gender: Male
Where born: Gamblingay, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil parish: Wortley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Gildersome
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bramley
Sub-registration district: Wortley [Near Leeds]
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3677
Folio: 51
Page Number: 5
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Roberts 51
Mary A Roberts 39
Samuel Roberts 18
Annie M Roberts 11
Fred Roberts 7

Hi Chris - yes this is him earlier.

He was born in 1840 and he marries Frances (Fanny) Hart in Feb 1867 in Gamlingay Cambridgeshire. I know he moved to London and Fanny died in 1876 but he disappears from the 1871 and 1881 census and he appears again in Leeds in 1891 and 1901 census dying in Leeds in 1909.

Gill :-)

Cover my legs up......NEVER ;-)

We have about 2ft of snow at the moment and still falling :-(

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

(who was his wife?, can you see her Burial on above)

Chris :)

When was your Thomas born?

1851 (is this him earlier?)
ROBERTS, James Head Married M 52 1799 Ag Lab
Sutton, Bedfordshire
ROBERTS, Ann Wife Married F 49 1802
Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire
ROBERTS, James Son Unmarried M 22 1829 Ag Lab
Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire
ROBERTS, Joseph Son Unmarried M 20 1831 Ag Lab
Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire
ROBERTS, Esther Daughter Unmarried F 17 1834
Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire
ROBERTS, David Son M 15 1836 Scholar
Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire
ROBERTS, Charles Son M 13 1838 Ag Lab
Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire
ROBERTS, Thomas Son M 11 1840 Ag Lab
Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire
ROBERTS, George Son M 9 1842 Ag Lab
Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire
ROBERTS, Samuel Son M 6 1845 Scholar
Gamlingay, Cambridgeshire
Piece: 1758
Folio: 11
Page: 15
Registration District: Caxton
Civil Parish: Gamlingay
Municipal Borough:
Address: Sinks, Gamlingay
County: Cambridgeshire

Chris :)

Delete as Its K info not the lady who ask for help person.

Sorry

Thanks for the help. I am looking for my great, great grandfather - Thomas Roberts who moved to London from Gamlingay and he disappears from the census returns in 1871. His wife died in 1876 in the smallpox hospial in Islington, she too is missing from the 1871census and I wondered if they were in a workhouse.

Gill