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Seeking Mary Lewis b.1836 Aberdare Father Thomas Lewis b. Carmarthenshire.
Mother Ann. The only info I have.
Thanks.

How did you get to the family?
Thanks

is this her


1841 Census Household RecordHousehold Information
Address Hirwain
Parish Aberdare
District Merthyr Tydfil, Aberdare
Administrative County Glamorganshire
Householder 1

Name Thomas Lewis
Age 35
Estimated Year of Birth 1806
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation
Birth Place Glamorgan
Birth County Glamorgan

Householder 2
Name Ann Lewis
Age 40
Estimated Year of Birth 1801
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation
Birth Place Glamorgan
Birth County Glamorgan

Householder 3
Name Margaret Lewis
Age 5
Estimated Year of Birth 1836
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Glamorgan
Birth County Glamorgan

Householder 4
Name Mary Lewis
Age 1
Estimated Year of Birth 1840
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place Glamorgan
Birth County Glamorgan

Householder 5
Name John Jinkins
Age 20
Estimated Year of Birth 1821
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation
Birth Place Glamorgan
Birth County Glamorgan

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Mary Lewis
Wales, Births and Baptisms, 1541-1907
christening: 27 Dec 1830 MERTHYR TYDFIL,?GLAMORGAN,?WALES
parents: Thomas Lewis,? Anne


name: Mary Lewis
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 27 Dec 1830
baptism/christening place: MERTHYR TYDFIL,GLAMORGAN,WALES
father's name: Thomas Lewis
mother's name: Anne
indexing project (batch) number: C05719-1
system origin: Wales-ODM
source film number: 104886, 104887, 104888, 104889

Sylvia,
You have Mary born 1836, PollyPoppet has her born 1840, and Ann has her baptised 1830.
Could you tell us how you got back to her, so we can sort her out?
Thank-you

Hi, Familysearch has a birth of Mary Lewis 16th June 1836 - Bap.31st July1836 at Conwil Caio , Carmarthen. Father - Thomas Mother - Ann (Jones) Abode Aberdare.
I am trying to establish relationship between the Mary Lewis age 4 on 1841 Census at Conwil to the Thomas Lewis age 75. Looks like he is Grandfather but have no evidence as yet of Mary's Father also Thomas as being his son.
Was hoping to find info. from 1851 Census.
Thanks for any help to unravel this tangle.

For ref., presumably:
1841 Wales Census
Thomas Lewis Age: 75 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1766
Gender: Male Where born: Carmarthenshire, Wales
Civil parish: Llanwinio Hundred: Derllys
County/Island: Carmarthenshire Country: Wales
Registration district: Carmarthen
Sub-registration district: Conwil
Piece: 1382 Book: 25 Folio: 22 Page Number: 13
Thomas Lewis 75
John Lewis 6
Mary Lewis 4
Amy Griffiths 20
Lois Jenkins 20
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1382; Book: 25; Civil Parish: Llanwinio; County: Carmarthenshire; Enumeration District: 30; Folio: 22; Page: 13; Line: 17; GSU roll: 464309.

He may have had a very young (second) wife.
Any evidence that Mary is still alive in 1851?

This could be John and Mary from 1841 in 1851, but it is a very common surname:
1851 Wales Census
John Lewis Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Ann Lewis (JOHN?0
Mother's name: Joyce Lewis (AYSE?)
Gender: Male Where born: Conwil, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Abernant
County/Island: Carmarthenshire
Country: Wales Registration district: Carmarthen
Sub-registration district: Conwil
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a Piece: 2474 Folio: 115 Page Number: 6 Household schedule number: 14
Ann Lewis 45
Joyce Lewis 43
David Lewis 19
John Lewis 17
Mary Lewis 13
Llewellyn Lewis 11
Anne Lewis 7
Howell Lewis 1
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2474; Folio: 115; Page: 6; GSU roll: 104229.

ADDED:
No, they are a different family in 1841.
Will leave so we know it is not them.

1851 Wales Census
Mary Lewis Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Lewis
Gender: Female Where born: Cayo, Carmarthenshire, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Conwil Cayo
County/Island: Carmarthenshire Country: Wales
Registration district: Llandovery Sub-registration district: Llanddausaint
ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Piece: 2470 Folio: 621 Page Number: 8
Household schedule number: 22
Thomas Lewis 47 widower
Mary Lewis 15
Margaret Lewis 12

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2470; Folio: 621; Page: 8; GSU roll: 104221-104222.

This looks like the 1851 family I posted in 1841:
1841 Wales Census
Thomas Lewis
Age: 35 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Gender: Male Where born: Carmarthenshire, Wales
Civil parish: Conmil Cayo Hundred: Cayo
County/Island: Carmarthenshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Llandovery Sub-registration district: Conmil Cayo
Piece: 1381 Book: 2 Folio: 16 Page Number: 6
Thomas Lewis 35
Anne Lewis 25
David Lewis 7
Mary Lewis 5
Margaret Lewis 2
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1381; Book: 2; Civil Parish: Conmil Cayo; County: Carmarthenshire; Enumeration District: 5; Folio: 16; Page: 6; Line: 13; GSU roll: 464308.

So my question remains, how did you get back to them, as we now have 2 Mary Lewis's in 1841 who could be the one born in 1836 as found in family search?
However, the second one, which I found, has correct parents.

Hi, thank you for your help in trying to sort this famiy out. Very difficult with common names.
Firstly I apologise for stating baptism info. from Familysearch as it was from Freereg.
Thomas Lewis (75) was on 1851 Census a Widower living with daughter Anne Bowen 47 Widow at Llanelly. Elizabeth wife not on 1851 Census and believe died btwn 1841 & 1851. (Too many to buy all Certs).

1841 Census Mother Elizabeth with daughter Elizabeth Treharne (believe from info. living next door to Thomas (75) with children. Probably stayed the night.

Believe Father Thomas and Mother Elizabeth had seven children. 5 are baptised at St.Elli, Llanelly where Thomas Lewis & Elizabeth Bowen marr. 1799.
Daughter Elizabeth established a child from Census but no baptism at St. Elli. Born 1811.
Believe there was a son Thomas but no baptism found. Father usually had one son named after him.

Have purchased Microfiche records and CD of BMD's of Llanelly from DyfedFHS but these are transcribed as Index not photocopied and could be missing entries.
I do appreciate your help and have only once again picked up on Carmarthen connection as I found it very difficult years ago to find a breakthrough.
Believe Thomas (Father) died btwn 1851 & 1861 Census. (Too many again to buy all Certs.) Thomas and Elizabeth are my 3 Grt.Grandparents through Jane their daughter.
Thank you again.




Also believe a son thomas