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Update : Harry Beaumont b1897 and Olive Walker

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Dea

Dea Report 29 Oct 2012 18:04

I 'think' the reference from the Cheshire BMD site means that it was a Roman Catholic marriage Mike.

Dea x

Mike *

Mike * Report 29 Oct 2012 16:29

From Google

Olive WALKER (daughter of Will WALKER and Lily WILDGOOSE) was born 6 Jan 1900. She resided 1949 to 1982 at 299 Dukinfield Road, Hyde, Cheshire. Olive died 15 Feb 1982
Olive married Matthew HACKNEY on 16 Aug 1920 at The Old Chapel, Dukinfield, Cheshire
( even married the same year as the other Olive )

This would appear to rule her out if the death of Olive Beaumonth in 1993 is correct

Mike *

Mike * Report 29 Oct 2012 16:20

Thanks for that Dea

Nothing else for it, they're going to have to get the marriage cert to see who her father was.

As it's listed as a civil marriage, I assume it was a registry office wedding so won't be on parish records.

Strange that I can't find both Olives births on freebmd.
Unless this is one of them mistranscribed as Oliver ?
It would fit with Olive being 1 year old in 1901


Births Mar 1900
Walker Oliver - Ashton 8d 582
---------------------------------------------

This must be the one who is 4 months old in 1901

Births Dec 1900
Walker Olive - Ashton 8d 559


Ashton under Lyne covers Dunkinfield as well as Stalybridge.

Dea

Dea Report 29 Oct 2012 14:01


This seems to be the Stalybridge birth (mmn Wildgoose as posted above), though it says born Dunkinfield?

WALKER, Will Head Married M 26 1875 Cotton Weaver
Dukinfield, Cheshire VIEW
WALKER, Lily Wife Married F 27 1874 Cotton Weaver
Hulme Manchester, Lancashire VIEW
WALKER, Olive Daughter F 1 1900
Dukinfield, Cheshire VIEW

Piece: 3793
Folio: 100
Page: 33
Registration District: Ashton under Lyne
Civil Parish: Dukinfield (Cheshire)
Municipal Borough:

Address: 35, Bass Street, Dukinfield (Cheshire), Dukinfield

County: Lancashire


Marriages Jun 1898 (>99%)
Lowe Mary Ellen Ashton 8d 763 Scan available - click to view
Street Samuel Ashton 8d 763 Scan available - click to view
Walker Will Ashton 8d 763 Scan available - click to view
Wildgoose Lily Ashton 8d 763 Scan available - click to view

Dea x

Mike *

Mike * Report 29 Oct 2012 13:42

Trouble is, they both fit.

This is her marriage

Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1920
BEAUMONT Henry + WALKER Olive
Ashton under Lyne Civil Marriage -Tameside

Dea

Dea Report 29 Oct 2012 13:06

The Mossley one fits?

1901 census transcription details for: 51, Manchester Road, Mossley
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 3801
Folio: 54
Page: 3
Reg. District: Ashton under Lyne
Sub District: Mossley
Parish: Mossley
Enum. District: 13
Ecclesiastical District: Mossley St George
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 51, Manchester Road, Mossley
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
WALKER, Walter Head Married M 27 1874 Cotton Spinner
Mossley, Cheshire
WALKER, Eliza Wife Married F 22 1879
Dukinfield, Cheshire
WALKER, Olive Daughter F 0 (4 MOS) 1901
Mossley, Cheshire

Will see if I can find the other...........

Dea x

Mike *

Mike * Report 29 Oct 2012 12:51

Thanks Jim & Chris.

Yes, I've been debating between the two.
Tempted to go with the Stalybridge one but need the cert to be sure.

Thanks again

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Oct 2012 12:20

Cheshire Birth indexes for the years: 1900
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
WALKER Olive Mossley Tameside GARSIDE MOS/5/63
WALKER Olive Stalybridge Tameside WILDGOOSE STB/8/57

(just adding, in case it goes with posting of Jim above!)

Chris :)

http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/index.php

Jim The Ferret

Jim The Ferret Report 29 Oct 2012 11:46

This looks possible combination
Births Dec 1900 (>99%)
Walker Olive Ashton 8d 559

Name: Olive Beaumont
Birth Date: 16 Nov 1900
Date of Registration: Jan 1993
Age at Death: 92
Registration district: Preston and South Ribble
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register Number: A31C
District and Subdistrict: 5881A
Entry number: 35

Jim

Mike *

Mike * Report 29 Oct 2012 10:54

Thanks Dea and RG

Not my family, trying to sort it out for a friend.
Looks like they've got 2 Tom's mixed up.
Yes, the Father in Law one should have been 1901

There's another born Huddersfield living in Gillingham
and as yet not sure which is the one I'm looking for.

The notes I've been given start with the marriage of Henry Beaumont and Olive Walker in Ashton under Lyne Dec Q 1920

I was told Henry was born in Clitheroe but no idea of Olive's birthplace.
I think they are going to have to buy the cert to find Olive's age and father.

Thanks for looking.






Dea

Dea Report 29 Oct 2012 09:51

I couldn't see it either Rootgatherer but I found one with those same details on 1901 so thought he might have quoted it from there?

He was a father-in-law and his wife was Ann - same details as I have posted for the one on 1911 above?

We need to wait for Mike* to see if it is the correct one.

Dea Xxx

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 29 Oct 2012 08:49

Sorry Mike, not seeing that Tom, father-in-law in 1911 on Ancestry.

Dea

Dea Report 29 Oct 2012 08:28

One of these could be his death?

Deaths Dec 1907 (>99%)
BEAUMONT Tom 66 Huddersfield 9a 204

Deaths Sep 1908 (>99%)
BEAUMONT Tom 66 Huddersfield 9a 208

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 29 Oct 2012 08:19

Do you think this might be Tom's wife Ann on 1911 (widow) ??

BEAUMONT, Ann Head Widow F 66 1845 Yorks Huddersfield VIEW

RG number: RG14

Piece: 26349

Reference: RG14PN26349 RG78PN1522 RD495 SD9 ED26 SN402

Registration District: Huddersfield
Sub District: Lockwood
Enumeration District: 26
Parish: Longwood

Address: 22 Gilead Road Longwood Huddersfield
County: Yorkshire (West riding)

Dea Xxx

Mike *

Mike * Report 28 Oct 2012 23:18

Thanks for that Jim.

Still with the Beaumonts, please can I have the details of this household in 1911
Am hoping his age should read 69 (otherwise I have the wrong Tom)


name: Tom Beaumont

age: 59
relationship to head of household: Father-In-Law
birthplace: Huddersfield, Yorkshire
record type: Household
registration district: Huddersfield
sub-district: Lockwood
ecclesiastical parish: Longwood St Mark
civil parish: Longwood
county: Yorkshire (West Riding)


Dea

Dea Report 28 Oct 2012 18:14

Nice to see you back Jim !!

Dea Xxx

Jim The Ferret

Jim The Ferret Report 28 Oct 2012 18:14

Here is 1911 - mistranscribed on Ancestry
Name: Gertrude Beanmont
Age in 1911: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Clitheroe, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Stalybridge
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 46 Warrington St Stalybridge
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Dress Maker
Registration district: Ashton under Lyne
Registration District Number: 468
Sub-registration district: Stalybridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Piece: 24427
Household Members:
Name Age
Arthur Beanmont 48
Mary J Beanmont 47
Maria Beanmont 23
Annie E Beanmont 22
Edith Beanmont 20
Florence A Beanmont 19
Gertrude Beanmont 16
Henry Beanmont 13
Jas A Beanmont 11
Lilly Greenwood 12

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 24427; ; .

Mike *

Mike * Report 28 Oct 2012 18:01

Brilliant.
Thanks very much, it seems to fit with this marriage

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1887

BEAUMONT Arthur- GREENWOOD Mary Jane -
Rochdale Register Office or Registrar Attended

Dea

Dea Report 28 Oct 2012 18:01

Looks good !!!

Marriages Mar 1887 (>99%)
ALTHAM Emma Rochdale 8e 108 Scan available - click to view
BEAUMONT Arthur Rochdale 8e 108 Scan available - click to view
Greenwood Mary Jane Rochdale 8e 108 Scan available - click to view

Dea Xxx

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Oct 2012 17:59

1901 - 27 Cambridge Street

Name: Harry Beaumont
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Arthur Beaumont
Mother's name: Mary Jane Beaumont
Gender: Male
Where born: Clotheroe, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Stalybridge
Ecclesiastical parish: New St George
Town: Stalybridge
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Ashton-under-Lyne
Sub-registration district: Stalybridge
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 85
Piece: 3798
Folio: 153
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Beaumont 37 Inspector of Police, b. Huddersfield
Mary Jane Beaumont 36 b. Rochdale
Maria Beaumont 13 b. Grimsby
Annie Eh Beaumont 12 b. Rochdale
Edith Beaumont 10 b. Clitheroe
Florrie Beaumont 9 b. Clitheroe
Gertrude Beaumont 6 b. Clitheroe
Harry Beaumont 3 b. Clitheroe
Arnold Beaumont 2 b. Clitheroe