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The Crowthers

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Lima100

Lima100 Report 25 Oct 2012 21:01

Fantastic! Thank you so much!

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Oct 2012 20:59

Yes she is:

CROWTHER, Edwin Head Married M 32 1859 Sail Maker Grimsby, Lincolnshire
CROWTHER, Mary Wife Married F 30 1861 Grocer Etc Norwich, Norfolk
CROWTHER, Maud Daughter Single F 18 1873 Grimsby, Lincolnshire
CROWTHER, Bertie Daughter Single F 14 1877 Grimsby, Lincolnshire VIEW
CROWTHER, Leonard Son Single M 0 (4M) 1891 Grimsby, Lincolnshire

Piece: 2618 Folio: 100 Page: 36
Registration District: Caistor
Civil Parish: Clee with Weelsby
Municipal Borough: Grimsby

Address: 76, Convamore Road, Clee With Weelsby, Grimsby County: Lincolnshire

Lima100

Lima100 Report 25 Oct 2012 20:58

Looking good. Willie is there as well. Is the mother alive in the 1891 census?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Oct 2012 20:57

This looks like the 1901 for the Leonard on that 1911:

CROWTHER, Edwin Head Widower M 41 1860 Sailmaker Grimsby, Lincolnshire
CROWTHER, Maud Daughter Single F 18 1883 Grimsby, Lincolnshire
CROWTHER, Herbert Son Single M 14 1887 Boot Finisher Grimsby, Lincolnshire
CROWTHER, Leonard Son M 10 1891 School Grimsby, Lincolnshire
CROWTHER, Willie Son M 5 1896 School Grimsby, Lincolnshire
CROWTHER, Irene Daughter F 4 1897 Grimsby, Lincolnshire

Piece: 1017 Folio: 47 Page: 36
Registration District: Isle of Wight
Civil Parish: Cowes

Address: Tennyson Road, Cowes County: Hampshire

Lima100

Lima100 Report 25 Oct 2012 20:54

Yes Father was a sail maker. Leonard left home when he was 16.

Lima100

Lima100 Report 25 Oct 2012 20:53

Yes Sorry must have got the 1915 wrong. Irene and Frances are his daughters. Harold died in France in 1944. So they married in Dublin. Leonard died in Southampton in 1965. Sarah in 1963.Great stuff! Thanks!

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Oct 2012 20:53

Are you presuming the 1911 is correct then looked at at the 1901 and found his father, Edwin, is a sail maker or do you have any proof of his occupation

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Oct 2012 20:51

If this IS the correct 1911 then it looks like it may be his brother with him:

MATTHEWS, Selina Elizabeth Head Single F 58 1853 Assistant Teacher Council School Bembridge I of Wight
HARVEY, Matthew Sub Tenant Married M 28 1883 Rivet Heating Blyth Northumberland
CROWTHER, Leonard Boarder Single M 20 1891 Rivet Heating Glimsby Lincoln
HARVEY, Daisy Frances Wife Married F 22 1889 Cowes I of Wight
CROUTHER, Willie Percival Boarder Single M 17 1894 Errand Boy Grimsby Lincoln
HARVEY, John Francis Son M 0 (7 WEEKS) 1911 Cowes I of Wight

RG number: RG14 Piece: 5692
Reference: RG14PN5692 RG78PN258 RD93 SD1 ED14 SN451
Registration District: Isle of Wight
Sub District: Cowes
Enumeration District: 14
Parish: Cowes

Address: 14 Medina Road W Cowes County: Hampshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Oct 2012 20:49

The probate GB found confirms that the 1917 birth appears to be correct.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Oct 2012 20:47

Did Leonard die in Southampton

Probate on Ancestry
To Irene Maud Barfoot and Frances Farrington, married woman

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Oct 2012 20:45

Could this be Irene's birth with mmn mistranscribed?

Births Jun 1917
Crowther Irene M McCalvey S. Stoneham 2c 157

EDIT: Looks likely given this birth

Births Jun 1918
Crowther Frances McCauley S. Stoneham 2c 165

Births Sep 1920
Crowther Harold B McCauley S. Stoneham 2c 196

Lima, you said first child born 1915 - was there another one?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 25 Oct 2012 20:43

How do you know the occupation of his father if you do not have the marriage cert

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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Oct 2012 20:42

Possible for the marriage:

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
Name: Leonard Crowther
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1916
Registration district: Dublin North
Volume: 2
Page: 471
FHL Film Number: 101263

There's a Sarah McAuley on the same page.

Lima100

Lima100 Report 25 Oct 2012 20:41

Dont know her name only that Leonards mother died when he was about seven. I believe Leonard married Sarah before 1915 when the first child was born. They had two daughters Frances and Irene and son Harold all born in Southampton.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 25 Oct 2012 20:35

Lima, if you know his mother died c1897 then what was her name?

Do you have a rough idea of when he married Sarah?

Did he have children? If so who where and when.

There were several Leonard Crowthers born around the time so do you know for definite that the info you have is correct?

Lima100

Lima100 Report 25 Oct 2012 20:30

Would like some help in finding the family of Leonard Crowther born c1890 died march 1965 Southampton. Pretty sure its him in Cowes Isle of Wight in the 1911 census. He's from Grimsby and was lodging. He married Sarah MaCauley from Ireland but cant find a wedding. His father was a sail maker. His mother died about 1897. Any help much appreciated.