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i have sarah ann on the 1911 census,,,with daughter elizabeth,...her husband william is not with her,dont know where he was but i found a death for him 1924 chorlton,srah ann died in 1931

What about this one?

SMITH, ERNEST
Rank:Private
Service No:14977
Date of Death:02/09/1915
Age:21
Regiment/Service:Royal Irish Fusiliers
5th Bn.
Panel ReferencePanel 178 to 180.
MemorialHELLES MEMORIAL
Additional Information:
Son of Sarah Smith, of 5, June St., West Dixon St., Salford, Manchester, and the late William Smith.

Ireland, Casualties of World War I, 1914-1918
Name: Ernest Smith
Regiment: Royal Irish Fusiliers, 5th Batt
Regiment Number: See Image
Rank: See Image
Death Date: 2 Sep 1915
Death Place: At Sea
Birth Place: Salford, England


Age doesnt match? And this might the man above?


1911 England Census
Name: Ernest Smith
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 5 June St Regent Rd Salford
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Blacksmith's Striker
Registration district: Salford
Registration District Number: 465
Sub-registration district: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Piece: 24046
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Smith 43
Ernest Smith 17
Mary Smith 12
Martha Smith 10

Gins....i dont know anything else abt him,after 1891...his baptism record from the lpcp sight is 1882

Thanks Kath


Cane

Can you post any other details for william E. Do you know if he married or have an estimated date of death?

I'm guessing you havent but thought I would ask anyway!

Wonder if went overseas?


Is this his birth....1880 as opposed to 1883?

Thank's Kathleen...

Yes thats the family in 1891 Gins...

sorry i was away for a bit,hubby had to turn off the internet.....

Gins

I think this is Ernest (same family as you have given but this transcription from Findmypast seems more accurate). Note that Ernest is 8 and not 9:-

1891 census transcription details for: 25, South Short Street, Salford

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 3226
Folio: 44
Page: 27
Reg. District: Salford
Sub District: Regent Road
Parish: Salford
Enum. District: 37
Ecclesiastical District: St Clements
City/Municipal Borough: Salford

Address: 25, South Short Street, Salford
County: Lancashire

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

SMITH, William Head Married M 34 1857 Painter
Manchester, Lancashire
SMITH, Sarah A Wife Married F 32 1859
Manchester, Lancashire
SMITH, Henry Son Single M 14 1877 Scholar
Salford, Lancashire
SMITH, Ann Daughter Single F 9 1882 Scholar
Salford, Lancashire
SMITH, Ernest Son Single M 8 1883 Scholar
Salford, Lancashire
SMITH, Edith Daughter Single F 4 1887
Salford, Lancashire
SMITH, Lena Daughter Single F 2 1889
Salford, Lancashire
LINDLEY, John Lodger Single M 56 1835 Pensioner
Hulme, Lancashire

Kath. x

Cane

Is this him?


1891 England Census
about Ernest Smith
Name: Ernest Smith
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Smith
Mother's name: Sarah D Smith
Gender: Male
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Regent Road
ED, institution, or vessel: 37
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3226
Folio: 44
Page Number: 27
Household Members: Name Age
William Smith 34
Sarah D Smith 32
Henry Smith 14
Ann Smith 9
Ernest Smith 8
Edith Smith 4
Leny Smith 2
John Lindley 50

i have a strong gut instinct that i have SMITH ancestors out ther some where....william and sarah lost there son Henry after only two yrs of marriage age 23yrs to T B and without having any children..

thanks Kathleen x

thanks Reggie,yes i know...yes checked there also, till i was blue in the face...

Have you checked CWGC?

A lot of men (including my grandfather) were missing from the 1901 census because they were in South Africa during the Boer War.

Kath. x

sorry i meant to address to Reggie...yes Reggie i have all other info for the family...just ernest is still missing

The Boer War was taking place at the time of the 1901 census

hi Gins....his mother states that on the 1911 census that five of her children are still living....four girls and the other must be william ernest...her only serviving son...

ooops i am aware that i have said the 1st ww,but would there have been something els going on that he could have been involved in as i have come across a whole bunch of men between the ages of 18-30 who just seem to vanish from the 1901 census and i have often wondered where they went...

When do you think he died..............if you're sure it wasn't when he was young.

You must have a reason for making that statement

Have you found all other family members in censuses subsequent to 1891?

the 1st Gins.....for William Ernest Smith,he was born 1882 in salford...his parents were william & sarah ann smith...i only have him on the 1891 census age nine and then he disapears,i am quite solid that he defo did not die....on the 1891 census he is down as just ernest smith..but on his baptism record he is william ernest smith,thank you

Which war are you wanting to search Cane?

If you could post the details please


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