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Can someone help with this please?
Robert Robertson ,born 1875 St Pancras is on the 1911 census as a widower.
For ref. he is at 53 Freeling St Islington ..
In 1901 he lived with his parents and was single , so he must have been married and widowed between 1901 and 1911.
I have looked on freebmd and there is only one suitable marriage for a Robert, that is in 1905 to either Elizabeth Carter or Mary Day.
Can anyone let me know which one he married, and also if possible ,tell me his father's name or names of witnesses so I can get an idea if this is the marriage I am looking for please?
My Robert's father was James Robertson and possible witnesses would have been Philpots
Thank you

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Robert Robertson (Horsekeeper)
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Age: 30
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Carter
Spouse Age: 31
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 9 Oct 1905
Parish: Battle Bridge All Saints
Borough: Islington
Father Name: James Robertson (Marble polisher)
Spouse Father Name: Richard Carter decd (Cabman)
Register Type: Parish Register


witnesses - Margaretta Green and Martha Philpot

Address of bride and groom - 19 Dennis Street





death of wife -


Deaths Mar 1910 (>99%)
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Robertson Elizabeth 37 Islington 1b 117

Robert doesn't seem to be with his parents in 1901?

1901 England Census about James Robertson
Name: James Robertson
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizth Robertson
Gender: Male
Where born: St Pancras, London, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Gray's Inn Lane
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 318
Piece: 142
Folio: 91
Page Number: 50
Household Members:
Name Age
James Robertson 57 - Marble Polisher mason
Elizth Robertson 60
Elisth Robertson 19
Harry Robertson 22
Eliza Robertson 20
Bertha Robertson 18

He didn't necessarily marry in Islington. On the 1911 census image it says that he has 2 children and there is an arrow pointing from the number 2 under how many children still alive saying "at Cambridge". Perhaps he married there.

Kath. x

He's there in 1891:-

1891 England Census about Robert Robertson
Name: Robert Robertson
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Robertson
Mother's name: Elizabeth Robertson
Gender: Male
Where born: Islington, London, England
Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Errand Boy

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Somers Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 14a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 128
Folio: 106
Page Number: 67
Household Members:
Name Age
James Robertson 44 - Marble Polisher mason
Elizabeth Robertson 43
Robert Robertson 16
Harry Robertson 14
Eliza Robertson 11
Bertha Robertson 8

Choccy
That is brilliant! Definitely him..Thank you very much

Catherine
Sorry, you are right,I think I muddled him up with Harry being at home..
That is the right family in 1901

Thank you both

Choccy
Thanks for the additional info,,,

Kath,That's strange.Wonder if he had been previously married?

Catherine. Thank you for the 1901/1891 censuses

Robert was a Bachelor on his marriage certificate in 1905.

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch

(Elizabeth Burial, on above link)

Chris :)

Choccy
Thank you for that...I expect the 'children' must have been a mistake

Chris
Thank you.I have just looked at the link and there are other members of my family on there too..will keep me busy for a while!

here are the children in 1911 - same ages as mentioned on the 1911 census for their father


RG14PN9143 RG78PN485 RD182 SD1 ED6 SN121
Reg. District: Linton
Sub District: Duxford
Parish: Sawston
Enum. District: 6
Address: Morleys Yard Sawston
County: Cambridgeshire


CHAPMAN, George Head Married M 33 1878 Farm Labourer Essex Langley
CHAPMAN, Eliza Jane Wife Married
9 years F 30 1881 London St Pan
CHAPMAN, George Frederick Son Single M 6 1905 School London St Pancras
CHAPMAN, Florrie Alice Daughter F 5 1906 School London St Pancras
CHAPMAN, Harry Son Single M 2 1909 Cambs Sawston
>>>>ROBERTSON, Emily Elizabeth Niece Single F 10 1901 School London
>>>>ROBERTSON, Lousia Mary Niece Single F 2 1909 London Islington




Eliza Jane Chapman appears to be Robert Robertson's sister -


Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%)
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Chapman George Pancras 1b 116
Robertson Eliza Pancras 1b 116

Births Dec 1908 (>99%)
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Robertson Louisa Mary Islington 1b 234

Louisa Mary Robertson's birth certificate would give you Robert's wife's full name.

Kath. x

Choccy
Thank you very much,
Yes, Robert did have a sister named Eliza, but I had no idea of her marriage.
So it seems that they were Robert's children. One is inside the time of his marriage and the other before he married, so likely born out of wedlock???
So much I didn't know about
Thanks again.

Kath
Yes,good idea.
I had only guessed at this being the right marriage, but now I am certain.
Thank you all for your help