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James Collinge 1848/50

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Audrey

Audrey Report 16 Oct 2012 23:35

James Collinge 1848/50? married Susannah Briggs 1851, father James Collinge 1830ish mother Ann ???Sale /Nuttall?? I have hit a brick wall with my Dads side can any one help, who was James Collinge 1830s father, from the Haslingdon/ Rawtenstall area, audrey

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Oct 2012 23:38

When and where did James marry Susannah and have you got the cert ?

What census info do you have ?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Oct 2012 23:46

1911 England Census

Name: James Collinge
Age in 1911: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Haslingden, Lancaster, England
Civil parish: Haslingden
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 338 Manchester Rd Haslington
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Stone Mason Retired
Registration district: Haslingden
Registration District Number: 471
Sub-registration district: Haslingden
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 24739
Household Members:
Name Age
James Collinge 63
Fred Collinge 29
Susan Jane Collinge 31
Walter Collinge 26
Alice Collinge 1

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Oct 2012 23:50

Are you certain he married Susannah ?

Or this a second marriage ?

Name: James Collinge
Age: 33
Birth Year: abt 1848
Marriage Date: 7 Sep 1881
Parish: Bispham, All Hallows
Spouse: Nancy Parkinson

Spouse Age: 30
Father: James Collinge
Spouse Father: William Parkinson
Reference Number: Pr 2906/1/9

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 16 Oct 2012 23:51

1901 ?? same address as 1911 census

Name: James Collinge
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Nancy Collinge
Gender: Male
Where born: Haslingden, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Haslingden
Ecclesiastical parish: Laneside St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Haslingden
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 197
Piece: 3855
Folio: 19
Page Number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
James Collinge 53
Nancy Collinge 50
Frederick Collinge 19
Florrence Collinge 17
Walter Collinge 11

Class: RG13; Piece: 3855; Folio: 19; Page: 30.


Name: Nancy Collinge
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1906
Age at Death: 55
Registration district: Haslingden
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 83



1891 same address as 1901 and 1911
occupation of quarry master

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Oct 2012 23:51

1861 England Census
Name: James Collinge
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Rawtenstall, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Lower Booths
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Rossendale
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Piece: 3057
Folio: 136
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
John Nuttall 66
Mary Nuttall 67
James Collinge 11

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 16 Oct 2012 23:54

1881 England Census

Name: James Collinge
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Susannah Collinge
Gender: Male
Where born: Rawtenstall, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Hopwood
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 10 Ebenezer Place
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Fish Dealer (Monger)
Registration district: Bury
Sub-registration district: Heywood
ED, institution, or vessel: 15b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3858
Folio: 34
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
James Collinge 31
Susannah Collinge 30

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Oct 2012 00:04

1851 England Census
Name: James Colling
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Lodger
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Rawtenstall, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Newchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: Rawtenstall St Mary
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Haslingden
Sub-registration district: Newchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 31
Piece: 2248
Folio: 8
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
James Colling 36*****************************born c1815
Ann Collinge 35
Elizabeth Sale 14 Daughter
James Colling 1


Ann must have been married before

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Oct 2012 00:06

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1848
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
COLLINGE James SALE Anne Haslingden, St James Preston CE1/3/56

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Oct 2012 00:11

Lancashire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1911
Name: James Collinge
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 11 Apr 1816
Christening Place: Haslingden, Lancashire, England
Father's Name: John Collinge.............Occ: Weaver
Mother's Name: Alice

Now go to the Lancs OPC site to try to find further info

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/

mgnv

mgnv Report 17 Oct 2012 02:50

Lodger does seem odd - the 1851 image says Son - all had pob=Rawtenstall
They were Quarry Man, Weaver Cotton, Carder Cotton, [blank]

Births Sep 1849 (>99%)
Collinge James Haslingden 21 452

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1849
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
COLLINGE James Newchurch Preston SALE NEW/14/18

Vicci

Vicci Report 17 Oct 2012 03:39

there are 4 or 5 Collinge James born around that time in the area. suggest go back to the beginning and trace back ie with known children / grandchildren of James

can not find James with Susannah after 1881
there is a James and Susan but they also appear in 1881 not not the same people.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Oct 2012 05:31

just out of interest, and because I can't see it above ............... here is James marriage to Susannah

Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)

Briggs Susannah Bury 8c 683
Collings James Bury 8c 683




???????

Deaths Jun 1889 (>99%)

Collinge Susannah 37 Bury 8c 321

Audrey

Audrey Report 21 Oct 2012 00:29

Hi can anyone tell me what England Easy means i keep finding the same number on the Collinge family 1068835 or 6 now i have found the same number in the 1700s, i hope to go and do a look up but don't understand these things audrey

mgnv

mgnv Report 21 Oct 2012 11:01

FS has done a number of transcription projects.
England-EASy is one of these - England-VR and England-ODM are two more I know of.
Sometimes, the coverage overlaps as the following 2 pairs illustrate:

name: Edmund Wilson
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 1839
baptism/christening place: KENDAL, WESTMORELAND, ENGLAND
birth date: 1839
father's name: James Wilson
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: C39262-7
system origin: England-VR
source film number: 1471686
reference number: - 2:300C4QT
Citing this Record
"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J92X-3MQ : accessed 21 Oct 2012), Edmund Wilson, 1839; citing reference - 2:300C4QT, FHL microfilm 1471686.

name: Edmund Wilson
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 13 Sep 1839
baptism/christening place: Kendal, Westmorland, England
birth date: 30 Aug 1839
father's name: James Wilson
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: C01893-8
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1471686
reference number: item 1 p 183
Citing this Record
"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NX9Y-QN5 : accessed 21 Oct 2012), Edmund Wilson, 30 Aug 1839; citing reference item 1 p 183, FHL microfilm 1471686.



name: Mary Jane Wilson
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 24 Dec 1848
baptism/christening place: Kendal, Westmoreland, England
father's name: Thomas James Wilson
mother's name: Mary Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C39262-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 1471686
reference number:
Citing this Record
"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N2T8-KP1 : accessed 21 Oct 2012), Mary Jane Wilson, 24 Dec 1848; citing reference , FHL microfilm 1471686.

name: Mary Jane Wilson
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 24 Dec 1848
baptism/christening place: Kendal, Westmorland, England
birth date: 25 Oct 1848
father's name: Thomas James Wilson
mother's name: Mary Ann
indexing project (batch) number: C01894-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1471686
reference number: item 2 p 116
Citing this Record
"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NX9B-4VX : accessed 21 Oct 2012), Mary Jane Wilson, 25 Oct 1848; citing reference item 2 p 116, FHL microfilm 1471686.

If, as I believe, these are independent transcriptions, the possibility of differences arises.
I think that ODM has been better checked than EASy, but I'm not sure of this. It never arose for me.


Lets look at an example closer to Audrey's mob:

name: James Collinge
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 01 Jan 1815
baptism/christening place: Prawtenstall, Goodshaw, in the Forest of Rossendale, Lancaster, Chester, England
father's name: James Collinge
mother's name: Alice
indexing project (batch) number: I02448-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1068834
Citing this Record
"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J7ZY-X7J : accessed 21 Oct 2012), James Collinge, 01 Jan 1815; citing reference , FHL microfilm 1068834.

This record was transcribed from the FHL film 1068834.
One can order this thru your local LDS FS Centre to view there - see:
https://familysearch.org/locations
for locations, then give them a call to find exactly how this would work.

One can also look at the FS Catalog and search for the film # to see what it covers:
https://familysearch.org/#form=catalog

Film or fiche number
1068834
Title search results
Item 1 Bishop's transcripts for Downham, 1606-1886 Church of England. Chapelry of Downham (Lancashire)
Item 2 Bishop's transcripts for Goodshaw, 1699-1838 Church of England. Chapelry of Goodshaw (Lancashire)
Item 3 Bishop's transcripts for Haslingden, 1603-1844 Church of England. Chapelry of Haslingden (Lancashire)
[The BTs are the church's own back-up copy of the original parish regos]

Then:
Title Bishop's transcripts for Goodshaw, 1699-1838
Authors Church of England. Chapelry of Goodshaw (Lancashire) (Main Author)
Notes Microfilm of original records at the Lancashire Record Office, Preston.
Goodshaw is a chapelry in the parish of Whalley.
Lancashire Record Office: DRB 2/246

Note Location Film
Baptisms, marriages and burials, 1699?; baptisms and burials, 1801-1838. FHL BRITISH Film 1068834 Item 2


Another search gets:
Title Parish registers for the chapelry of Goodshaw, 1749-1907
Authors Church of England. Chapelry of Goodshaw (Lancashire) (Main Author)
Notes Microfilm copy of originals at the Manchester Central Library, Manchester, England.
Goodshaw is a chapelry in Whalley parish. The chapelry was also known as St. Mary and All Saints' Church.
Manchester Central Library call nos.: L82/1/1, L82/1/2/3, L82/1/3/1, L82/1/4/2.

Note Location Film
Baptisms, 1749-1854. Burials, 1755-1841. FHL BRITISH Film 2113083
Inventory of church records. Baptisms, 1854-1900. Marriages, 1838-1907. Burials, 1841-1893. FHL BRITISH Film 2113084


So if one lived in Lancs, one could either go to the LRO in Preston, or Manchester Central Library, and avoid the FHL film rental fee.

Audrey

Audrey Report 22 Oct 2012 00:14

thanks everyone for the info audrey