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thanks everyone for the info audrey
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FS has done a number of transcription projects. England-EASy is one of these - England-VR and England-ODM are two more I know of. Sometimes, the coverage overlaps as the following 2 pairs illustrate:
name: Edmund Wilson gender: Male baptism/christening date: 1839 baptism/christening place: KENDAL, WESTMORELAND, ENGLAND birth date: 1839 father's name: James Wilson mother's name: Mary indexing project (batch) number: C39262-7 system origin: England-VR source film number: 1471686 reference number: - 2:300C4QT Citing this Record "England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J92X-3MQ : accessed 21 Oct 2012), Edmund Wilson, 1839; citing reference - 2:300C4QT, FHL microfilm 1471686.
name: Edmund Wilson gender: Male baptism/christening date: 13 Sep 1839 baptism/christening place: Kendal, Westmorland, England birth date: 30 Aug 1839 father's name: James Wilson mother's name: Mary indexing project (batch) number: C01893-8 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1471686 reference number: item 1 p 183 Citing this Record "England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NX9Y-QN5 : accessed 21 Oct 2012), Edmund Wilson, 30 Aug 1839; citing reference item 1 p 183, FHL microfilm 1471686.
name: Mary Jane Wilson gender: Female baptism/christening date: 24 Dec 1848 baptism/christening place: Kendal, Westmoreland, England father's name: Thomas James Wilson mother's name: Mary Ann indexing project (batch) number: C39262-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 1471686 reference number: Citing this Record "England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N2T8-KP1 : accessed 21 Oct 2012), Mary Jane Wilson, 24 Dec 1848; citing reference , FHL microfilm 1471686.
name: Mary Jane Wilson gender: Female baptism/christening date: 24 Dec 1848 baptism/christening place: Kendal, Westmorland, England birth date: 25 Oct 1848 father's name: Thomas James Wilson mother's name: Mary Ann indexing project (batch) number: C01894-7 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1471686 reference number: item 2 p 116 Citing this Record "England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NX9B-4VX : accessed 21 Oct 2012), Mary Jane Wilson, 25 Oct 1848; citing reference item 2 p 116, FHL microfilm 1471686.
If, as I believe, these are independent transcriptions, the possibility of differences arises. I think that ODM has been better checked than EASy, but I'm not sure of this. It never arose for me.
Lets look at an example closer to Audrey's mob:
name: James Collinge gender: Male baptism/christening date: 01 Jan 1815 baptism/christening place: Prawtenstall, Goodshaw, in the Forest of Rossendale, Lancaster, Chester, England father's name: James Collinge mother's name: Alice indexing project (batch) number: I02448-3 system origin: England-EASy source film number: 1068834 Citing this Record "England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J7ZY-X7J : accessed 21 Oct 2012), James Collinge, 01 Jan 1815; citing reference , FHL microfilm 1068834.
This record was transcribed from the FHL film 1068834. One can order this thru your local LDS FS Centre to view there - see: https://familysearch.org/locations for locations, then give them a call to find exactly how this would work.
One can also look at the FS Catalog and search for the film # to see what it covers: https://familysearch.org/#form=catalog
Film or fiche number 1068834 Title search results Item 1 Bishop's transcripts for Downham, 1606-1886 Church of England. Chapelry of Downham (Lancashire) Item 2 Bishop's transcripts for Goodshaw, 1699-1838 Church of England. Chapelry of Goodshaw (Lancashire) Item 3 Bishop's transcripts for Haslingden, 1603-1844 Church of England. Chapelry of Haslingden (Lancashire) [The BTs are the church's own back-up copy of the original parish regos]
Then: Title Bishop's transcripts for Goodshaw, 1699-1838 Authors Church of England. Chapelry of Goodshaw (Lancashire) (Main Author) Notes Microfilm of original records at the Lancashire Record Office, Preston. Goodshaw is a chapelry in the parish of Whalley. Lancashire Record Office: DRB 2/246
Note Location Film Baptisms, marriages and burials, 1699?; baptisms and burials, 1801-1838. FHL BRITISH Film 1068834 Item 2
Another search gets: Title Parish registers for the chapelry of Goodshaw, 1749-1907 Authors Church of England. Chapelry of Goodshaw (Lancashire) (Main Author) Notes Microfilm copy of originals at the Manchester Central Library, Manchester, England. Goodshaw is a chapelry in Whalley parish. The chapelry was also known as St. Mary and All Saints' Church. Manchester Central Library call nos.: L82/1/1, L82/1/2/3, L82/1/3/1, L82/1/4/2.
Note Location Film Baptisms, 1749-1854. Burials, 1755-1841. FHL BRITISH Film 2113083 Inventory of church records. Baptisms, 1854-1900. Marriages, 1838-1907. Burials, 1841-1893. FHL BRITISH Film 2113084
So if one lived in Lancs, one could either go to the LRO in Preston, or Manchester Central Library, and avoid the FHL film rental fee.
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Hi can anyone tell me what England Easy means i keep finding the same number on the Collinge family 1068835 or 6 now i have found the same number in the 1700s, i hope to go and do a look up but don't understand these things audrey
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just out of interest, and because I can't see it above ............... here is James marriage to Susannah
Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
Briggs Susannah Bury 8c 683 Collings James Bury 8c 683
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Deaths Jun 1889 (>99%)
Collinge Susannah 37 Bury 8c 321
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there are 4 or 5 Collinge James born around that time in the area. suggest go back to the beginning and trace back ie with known children / grandchildren of James
can not find James with Susannah after 1881 there is a James and Susan but they also appear in 1881 not not the same people.
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Lodger does seem odd - the 1851 image says Son - all had pob=Rawtenstall They were Quarry Man, Weaver Cotton, Carder Cotton, [blank]
Births Sep 1849 (>99%) Collinge James Haslingden 21 452
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1849 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference COLLINGE James Newchurch Preston SALE NEW/14/18
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Lancashire, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1911 Name: James Collinge Gender: Male Christening Date: 11 Apr 1816 Christening Place: Haslingden, Lancashire, England Father's Name: John Collinge.............Occ: Weaver Mother's Name: Alice
Now go to the Lancs OPC site to try to find further info
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/
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Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1848 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference COLLINGE James SALE Anne Haslingden, St James Preston CE1/3/56
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1851 England Census Name: James Colling Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Lodger Gender: M (Male) Where born: Rawtenstall, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Newchurch Ecclesiastical parish: Rawtenstall St Mary County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Registration district: Haslingden Sub-registration district: Newchurch ED, institution, or vessel: 1a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 31 Piece: 2248 Folio: 8 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age James Colling 36*****************************born c1815 Ann Collinge 35 Elizabeth Sale 14 Daughter James Colling 1
Ann must have been married before
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1861 England Census Name: James Collinge Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Rawtenstall, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Lower Booths Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Lancashire Country: England
Registration district: Haslingden Sub-registration district: Rossendale ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 91 Piece: 3057 Folio: 136 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age John Nuttall 66 Mary Nuttall 67 James Collinge 11
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1901 ?? same address as 1911 census
Name: James Collinge Age: 53 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Nancy Collinge Gender: Male Where born: Haslingden, Lancashire, England Civil parish: Haslingden Ecclesiastical parish: Laneside St Peter County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Haslingden Sub-registration district: Haslingden ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 197 Piece: 3855 Folio: 19 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age James Collinge 53 Nancy Collinge 50 Frederick Collinge 19 Florrence Collinge 17 Walter Collinge 11 Class: RG13; Piece: 3855; Folio: 19; Page: 30.
Name: Nancy Collinge Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1906 Age at Death: 55 Registration district: Haslingden Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8e Page: 83
1891 same address as 1901 and 1911 occupation of quarry master
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Are you certain he married Susannah ?
Or this a second marriage ?
Name: James Collinge Age: 33 Birth Year: abt 1848 Marriage Date: 7 Sep 1881 Parish: Bispham, All Hallows Spouse: Nancy Parkinson Spouse Age: 30 Father: James Collinge Spouse Father: William Parkinson Reference Number: Pr 2906/1/9
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1911 England Census
Name: James Collinge Age in 1911: 63 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Haslingden, Lancaster, England Civil parish: Haslingden County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 338 Manchester Rd Haslington Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: Stone Mason Retired Registration district: Haslingden Registration District Number: 471 Sub-registration district: Haslingden ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Piece: 24739 Household Members: Name Age James Collinge 63 Fred Collinge 29 Susan Jane Collinge 31 Walter Collinge 26 Alice Collinge 1
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When and where did James marry Susannah and have you got the cert ?
What census info do you have ?
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James Collinge 1848/50? married Susannah Briggs 1851, father James Collinge 1830ish mother Ann ???Sale /Nuttall?? I have hit a brick wall with my Dads side can any one help, who was James Collinge 1830s father, from the Haslingdon/ Rawtenstall area, audrey
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