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I am looking for information regarding the relatives of Thomas Alderdice c1850 and Susanna aka Susan Gould c 1850 who are the parents of William bn1868 - 1933 and Thomas Alderdice bn 26 May 1870 in Lugan.

William married Jane Turner on 8th July 1887 in Lurgan and subsequently they moved to Scotland where they settled in the Dumbarton area, having several children, one of whom, William, bn 14 May 1900 is the grandfather of my wife.

I have no further information showing any other family members moved to Scotland, the 1901 Census shows a Thomas Alderdice, aged 30 living in Union Street, Lugan.

Any information / advice gladly received.

Hi

You seem to have his father born after his son?

Edit: Sorry, read it wrong!

Are you looking to go back to find ancestors or forward?


Is it 'Lurgan' just SW of Belfast?

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
Name: William Alderdice
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 25 Jun 1867
Birth Place: Lurgan, Armagh, Ireland
Father's Name: Thomas Alderdice
Mother's Name: Susanna Goold
FHL Film Number: 101150

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
Name: James Alderdice
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 29 Oct 1865
Birth Place: Lurgan, Armagh, Ireland
Father's Name: Thomas Alderdice
Mother's Name: Susanna Gould
FHL Film Number: 101115

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
Name: Thomas Alderdice
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 26 May 1870
Birth Place: Lurgan No 1, Arm, Ireland
Baptism Place: Lurgan No 1, Arm, Ireland
Father's Name: Thomas Alderdice
Mother's Name: Susan Gould
FHL Film Number: 101205

Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
Name: Elizabeth Alderdice
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 1 Jun 1872
Birth Place: Lurgan No 1, Arm, Ireland
Baptism Place: Lurgan No 1, Arm, Ireland
Father's Name: Thomas Alderdice
Mother's Name: Susan Goold
FHL Film Number: 255849

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
Name: Thomas Alderdice
Date of Registration: 1864
Registration district: Lurgan
Volume: 16
Page: 937 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101249

Possible/probable spouse: Susan Gold

Gins, Brilliant.

I could only find the birth of Thomas in 1870 when I searched the Lurgan Ancestry Site and it referred to the parents.

Then William's own Death Certificate in 1933 gave me his parents names as Thomas Alderdice and Susanna Gould, nfd, but the birth certificate of his son in 1900 gave me the information that he had married Jane Turner in Lurgan in 1887 so that was all I had to go on. I have traced lots of the Scottish relatives in the east and west coasts and it is basically the Irish side of the family I am trying to trace and try to establish if they originate from Ireland or if they were part of the Scottish Plantation into Armagh.
Thanks for the update though, again, Brilliant really chuffed, been looking for ages but obviously not in the right places.

Gins, also, sorry in my delayed response this evening. I have been having trouble with my tree and have spent the evening reading posts on other parts of the site regarding the problems everyone seems to be having and got distracted.

However, I am very grateful for your assistance and if there is anywhere I should look to further my research I would love to hear what you suggest.

Thomas Alderdice married Susan Gold 26th December 1864 Lurgan Second Presbyterian Church

Thomas father a Willliam
Susan father a James
you can get a transcript of the marriage from here rootsireland.ie

Thank you Maura, I was not aware of that site. All help very much appreciated.

Hi Stuart

Must have missed this birth ealier!


Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911
about Robert Alderdice
Name: Robert Alderdice
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 Nov 1874
Birth Place: Ireland
Father's Name: Thomas Alderdice
Mother's Name: Susan Goold
FHL Film Number: 255914

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
Name: Robert Alderdice
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1899
Registration district: Lurgan
Volume: 1
Page: 975 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101259
Spouse: Rachel Boston



Residents of a house 26 in Union Street (Lurgan Urban, Armagh)


Alderdice Robert 26 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Armagh Painter Read and write - Married -
Alderdice Rachel 25 Female Wife Presbyterian Co Armagh - Read and write - Married -
Alderdice James Male Son Presbyterian Co Armagh - Cannot read - Not Married -
Boston John 27 Male Boarder Church of Ireland Co Armagh Tenter Read and write - Widower -
Boston John 3 Male Boarder Church of Ireland Co Armagh - Cannot read - Not Married -
Boston William 20 Male Boarder Church of Ireland

Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
about Thomas Alderdice
Name: Thomas Alderdice
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1892
Registration district: Lurgan
Volume: 1
Page: 801 (click to see others on page)
FHL Film Number: 101256

Mary Jane Murray


Residents of a house 17 in Union Street (Lurgan Urban, Armagh)

Alderdice Thomas 30 Male Head of Family Brethern County Armagh Letter Carrier Read and write - Married -
Alderdice Mary Jane 28 Female Wife Brethern County Down - Read and write - Married -
Alderdice William 5 Male Son Brethern County Armagh Scholar Read - Not Married -
Alderdice Robert 5 Male Son Brethern County Armagh Scholar Read - Not Married -
Alderdice Albert 4 Male Son Brethern County Armagh Scholar Read - Not Married -
Alderdice Norman 3 Male Son Brethern County Armagh - Cannot read - Not Married -
Alderdice Ida 1 Female Daughter Brethern

Hello Gins, thanks again, sorry about getting back but have been away.

I also found these census records but was not sure if I can say they are related, is there some way I can confirm them as being the same persons as shown in the previous entries re births and marriages ? What should I look for ?
Stuart

Hello Gins, thanks again, sorry about the delay in responding, I have been away. I did respond earlier but checked and my response is not showing so I don't know what I did or did not do that caused it to go missing. I have read thoses census's before but do not know how to ensure that they are the same people referred to earlier in the births/marriages found by your good self and others. How do I go about confirming that ? Is it an educated guess ? Thanks again for the input. I have added the families to my tree in MyHeritage site meantime hoping that they may get a 'match' somewhere else and will add them to the genes tree if I can prove them to be related. Any advice re that ?

Stuart....

You may find these are your wife's folks....

A Mr Wm Alderdice and possibly some of his children signed the Ulster Covenant (1914) ...the age of signing had to be over 16 years....

You need to note that it has for Mr Wm. and Thomas.... Lurgan Co Down.
Could be an error.


Alderdice

Maggie

Lurgan Co Armagh

Scotland: Kilmarnock

Dumbarton

Orange Hall, Chruch Street

Smith, S G

Signature Folder



Alderdice

Mr William

Lurgan Co Down

Scotland: Kilmarnock

Dumbarton

Orange Hall, Chruch Street

Smith, S G

Signature Folder



Alderdice

Thomas

Lurgan Co Down

Scotland: Kilmarnock

Dumbarton

Orange Hall, Chruch Street


If you check out the following site you will aslo see Alderdice for Union St Lurgan

www.proni.gov.uk

Scroll down left side of screen and select Ulster Covenant,
When page comes up choose "Search the Covenant" on right hand side of screen
You can aslo see their signature by choosing that option when the names come up.

Thank you Erin........., I am still at a loss as to how I prove the individuals on the census are the one and same as those related to my wife's family, any suggestions ?