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The 1861 census is NOT John Thompson Blackburn.

I have followed it through and I believe it relates to this marriage:

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about John Henry Blackburn

Name: John Henry Blackburn ******
Spouse Name: Ann Dowson
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 8 Jun 1831
Parish: St George Hanover Square
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript

This is the baptism of their child Emily - same address and occupation as 1861 census :

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Emily Louisa Blackburn
Name: Emily Louisa Blackburn
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Sep 1840
Father's Name: John Henry Blackburn m - Stationer
Mother's Name: Ann Blackburn
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers

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1841 with Ann

STOKES, Robert M 30 1811
STOKES, Sarah F 35 1806
BELL, John M 22 1819
JACKSON, John M 60 1781 Middlesex
BLACKBURN, John M 31 1810 Middlesex occupation TAILOR
BLACKBURN, Ann F 30 1811
BLACKBURN, Henry M 8 1833 Middlesex
BLACKBURN, John M 4 1837 Middlesex
JACKSON, Margaret F 60 1781 Middlesex

Piece: 661

Book/Folio: 9/8

Page: 8

Registration District: St James Clerkenwell

Civil Parish: St James Clerkenwell

Municipal Borough: Finsbury

Address: Ray Street, St James Clerkenwell, Finsbury

County: Middlesex

Deaths Jun 1847 (>99%)
Blackburn Ann Martha Shoreditch 2 257

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Deaths Mar 1858 (>99%)
Blackburn John Thomas St. Geo. East 1c 368

1871

Name: Ellen Blackburn
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Chelsea St Luke
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Chelsea
Sub-registration district: Chelsea, North-West
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Piece: 82
Folio: 11
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
George Johnson 26
Ellen Johnson 30
Clara Johnson 2
James Johnson 1
Priscilla Johnson 46
Ellen Blackburn 57 upholstress widow

I agree - there is somethihing strange - but very odd that there are two marriages for John Thompson Blackburn and he is said to be widdowed on the second. however I do agree the censuses do not match.

Got another problem

If the 1851 census is correct then the 1861 census must be wrong. His occupation does not match nor do the names of the children

His occupation on second marriage is tailor which does match the 1851

Glitter Babe - Vikki has put a baptism of one of the children up. I think the marriages are both for john. He has the same middle name Thompson which is fairly unusual.

1861 I think this is Ellen - widow

Name: Ellen Blackburn
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: St Sepulchres, London, England

Civil parish: Westminster St Clement Danes
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Strand
Sub-registration district: St Clement Danes
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 94
Piece: 180
Folio: 61
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Blackburn 40
William Blackburn 15
Harriet Blackburn 12
Mary Ann Blackburn 5
Fanny Blackburn 1

Class: RG 9; Piece: 180; Folio: 61; Page: 14; GSU roll: 542587.

Jane is a servant in 1861

:-S

I thought you said that second marriage was his and not one of the childrens

Hi Vikki, The first is his marriage and the second is one of their children. Thank you

Got 2 problems

The first marriage would not give name of father

1861 census I think is not your family

Name: John Thompson Blackburn
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Ellen Tyrrell
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 7 Aug 1848
Parish: Hoxton St John
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Joseph Blackburn
Spouse Father Name: Thomas Tyrrell
Register Type: Parish Register

John Francis William Blackburn
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 18 Sep 1837
Father's Name: John Blackburn
Mother's Name: Ann Blackburn
Parish or Poor Law Union: Shoreditch St Leonard
Borough: Hackney
Register Type: Parish Registers

Name: John Thompson Blackburn
Spouse Name: Ann Martha Pearce
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Apr 1832
Parish: Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Register

Yes that is the family .
Alice

1861 do you mean this family ?

Name: John Blackburn
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Blackburn
Gender: Male
Where born: St Georges, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Marylebone
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub-registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 160
Piece: 83
Folio: 101
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
John Blackburn 50
Ann Blackburn 50
Emily Blackburn 20
Mary Blackburn 17
Catherine Mann 40

Class: RG 9; Piece: 83; Folio: 101; Page: 29; GSU roll: 542570

Probably not as children do not match the 1851

No, both marriages are parish records on ancestry and the fathers names are the same and Johns occupation is the same too, so I am pretty sure it is him.

1851
John T Blackburn
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Blackburn
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: St Luke's, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Anne Soho
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

View image

Registration district: Strand
Sub-registration district: St Anne Soho
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 194
Piece: 1510
Folio: 25
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
John T Blackburn 40
Ellen Blackburn 30
John F Blackburn 14
Charles Blackburn 11
Jane Blackburn 8
William Blackburn 5
Harriett Blackburn 2
Ellen Blackburn 2

1851 is this the family ?

Name: John T Blackburn
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Blackburn
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: St Luke's, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Anne Soho
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Strand
Sub-registration district: St Anne Soho
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 194
Piece: 1510
Folio: 25
Page Number: 43
Household Members: Name Age
John T Blackburn 40
Ellen Blackburn 30
John F Blackburn 14
Charles Blackburn 11
Jane Blackburn 8
William Blackburn 5
Harriett Blackburn 2
Ellen Blackburn 2

Class: HO107; Piece: 1510; Folio: 25; Page: 43; GSU roll: 87844.

Do you actually have the 1848 marriage cert to confirm it is the same man