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James Low b. 1841 and brothers Robert and William emigrated to USA about 1870. James married Mary Kidd (also born in Scotland) in 1874 and then had daughter 1st Nov 1879 in Paterson NJ.
William last heard of in Chigaco 1880 working in meat, date of birth approx. 1843.
Trying to chase up James and William as we don't know what happened to them. Only recently discovered letters sent from them and kept by my grandmother Jane Keith Rennie ms Low.
Robert b.1845 to 1928 we have found in Texas and also living relatives, yippee.
bob mitchell :-) :-)
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Looks as though James may also have had a son ?? :-
name: Charles Low gender: Male baptism/christening date: baptism/christening place: birth date: Jan 1878 birthplace: Paterson, Passaic, New Jersey father's name: James Low mother's name: Mary indexing project (batch) number: C00549-9 system origin: New_Jersey-ODM source film number: 494184 reference number: Citing this Record
"New Jersey, Births and Christenings, 1660-1980," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V5N3-Q6J : accessed 11 Oct 2012), Charles Low, Jan 1878; citing reference , FHL microfilm 494184.
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1880 United States Federal Census Name: Isabel Low Age: 6m Birth Year: abt 1879 Birthplace: New Jersey Home in 1880: Paterson, Passaic, New Jersey Race: White Gender: Female Relation to Head of House: Daughter Marital Status: Single Father's Name: James Low Father's Birthplace: Scotland Mother's Name: Mary Low Mother's Birthplace: Scotland Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age James Low 29 Mary Low 25 Isabel Low 6m William Taylor 25 David Mcdugal 24
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Could this be Robert ????
Texas, Deaths, 1890-1976," Robert M Low, 1928 « Back to search results Sign in to see free image Search collection About this collection About image restrictions name: Robert M Low death date: 12 Jul 1928 death place: Mineral Wells, Palo Pinto, Texas gender: Male race: white death age: 82 years 11 months 23 days estimated birth date: birth date: 19 Jul 1845 birthplace: Forfor, Scotland marital status: Married spouse's name: father's name: Charles Low father's birthplace: Scotland mother's name: Nellie Grout mother's birthplace: Scotland occupation: Cattleman place of residence: cemetery: burial place: Brownwood, Texas burial date: 13 Jul 1928 additional relatives: film number: 2114621 digital film number: 4163985 image number: 990 reference number: 32134 Citing this Record
"Texas, Deaths, 1890-1976," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J6L2-MJT : accessed 11 Oct 2012), Robert M Low, 12 Jul 1928; citing reference 32134, State Registrar Office, Austin, Texas.
Was his father's name Charles and mother Nellie ?
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Yes, Nellie is short for Isabella which was her full name ms. "Grant".
Yes this is indeed Robert.
I had not realised that he had a son as well as a daughter, well done Catherine for picking it out. James married a Mary in Manhattan - there is some mention in the ten letters that have been kept.
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James marriage:
Surname Given Name Month Day Year County Certificate Number Soundex Low James May 17 1874 Manhattan 3143 L000
Bride Mary Kidd
There was also a James Low married a Mary Allison in Manhattan in 1879.
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Looks like James' daughter died very young:
New Jersey, Deaths and Burials Index, 1798-1971 Name: Isabella Low Birth Date: abt 1879 Birth Place: United States Death Date: 5 Dec 1881 Death Place: Paterson, Passaic, New Jersey Death Age: 2 years 2 months Gender: Female Father Birth Place: Scotland Mother Birth Place: Scotland FHL Film Number: 589832
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Oh dear, this is sad:
New Jersey, Deaths and Burials Index, 1798-1971 Name: Charles Low Birth Date: abt 1877 Birth Place: United States Death Date: Jan 1878 Death Place: Patterson, Passaic, New Jersey Death Age: 1 year Race: White Gender: Male Father Birth Place: Scotland Mother Birth Place: Scotland FHL Film Number: 589825
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Could this be James' wife?
New Jersey, Deaths and Burials Index, 1798-1971 Name: Mary Low Birth Date: abt 1855 Birth Place: Scotland Death Date: 4 Mar 1884 Death Place: Paterson, Passaic, New Jersey Death Age: 29 years Race: White Marital Status: Married Gender: Female FHL Film Number: 589836
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Have found the following 1870 census and now I'm not convinced that the 1880 census, plus the births and deaths posted for James and Mary & their children are correct:
1870 United States Federal Census Name: James Low Age in 1870: 19 Birth Year: abt 1851 Birthplace: Scotland Home in 1870: Paterson Ward 8, Passaic, New Jersey Race: White Gender: Male Post Office: Paterson Value of real estate: View image Household Members: Name Age Jane Low 46 James Low 19 Margret Low 17
I'm sure this is the James that is in the 1880 and whose family records have been posted but I'm guessing it 's his mother he's with and her name is Jane, whereas Robert states his James' mother was Isabella.
Also, this one in New Jersey is 10 years younger.
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Robert - where have you got the information from about James' marriage and birth of daughter? Has it been verified?
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Wow, I sit looking at the computer screen thinking of the sadness that my relatives experienced in the new world.
William was lodged in a "beer store" in Chigaco while working for a meat factory (Libby's) in 1882.
Their mother died in 1884 in Forfar.
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Robert - don't get too upset about your relatives hardship, I'm not sure that they're your relatives. See my last posts.
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It was through a letter that William sent back to his wife, but only that he (James) was marrying another Mary.
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Robert, what do you mean by "another Mary"?
Where did you get the info that he'd had a daughter in New Jersey?
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James Low was born in Forfar in June 1841 - I have his birth certificate for this from "ScotlandsPeople".
Absolutely amazing coincidence and the people there was a Jane Low and a Margret Low and James in the family too.
Jane Ann Low ms. Keith was my Great Grandmother.
Thanks for the help its getting a bit late now BFN
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from familysearch.org
Robert married a Mary as well
:-)
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For ref info:
1851 Scotland Census Parish:FORFAR Street:WEST HIGH STREET Admin County:FORFAR City:FORFAR Enumeration District:10 Town:FORFAR
CHARLES LAW 1798 53 Glamiss, Forfarshire HEAD CARTER ISABELLA LAW 1808 43 Brechin, Forfarshire WIFE ANN LAW 1829 22 Forfar, Forfarshire DAUGHTER HAND LOOM WEAVER LINEN HELEN LAW 1833 18 Forfar, Forfarshire DAUGHTER HAND LOOM WEAVER LINEN ELISABETH LAW 1835 16 Forfar, Forfarshire DAUGHTER HAND LOOM WEAVER LINEN JANET LAW 1836 15 Forfar, Forfarshire DAUGHTER SCHOLAR MARGARET LAW 1839 12 Forfar, Forfarshire DAUGHTER SCHOLAR WILLIAM LAW 1843 8 Forfar, Forfarshire SON SCHOLAR ROBERT LAW 1846 5 Forfar, Forfarshire SON SCHOLAR JAMES LAW 1849 2 Forfar, Forfarshire SON
US census was 1 June 1830-1900 after that April, except 1/1/1920.
You can search 1900/40 (and view images) at: https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_STATES plus lots of other stuff.
Nothing found on 1870
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Magnify 4 clicks, then save image: J1880 http://archive.org/stream/10thcensus0796unit#page/n543/mode/1up [addy=84 Pine St, Paterson, Passaic Co NJ] R1880 http://archive.org/stream/10thcensus1292unit#page/n774/mode/1up [and next page] R1910 http://archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po1535unit#page/n190/mode/1up [+ Mary + Ganning Inglis a=43 Widowed niece & her kids: George a=13, William a=11, Lizzie a=8 all pob=Scotland except it's obviously not Ganning - Jamimy looks more likely, but weird - some variant of Jamesina, maybe - check the 1901 - possib really niece of Mary] c1910 http://archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po1535unit#page/n51/mode/1up j1920 http://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu1782unit#page/n198/mode/1up c1920 http://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu1782unit#page/n146/mode/1up w1930 http://archive.org/stream/texascensus00reel2302#page/n750/mode/1up j1930 http://archive.org/stream/15thcensus1933unit#page/n279/mode/1up
1901 Scotland Census County:Forfarshire (Angus) Parish:DUNDEE Street:2 MAIN STREET Birth Town:DUNDEE Registration District:ST ANDREW
ALEXANDER INGLIS 1870 31 Dundee, Forfarshire HEAD TINSMITH JEMIMA INGLIS 1870 31 Dundee, Forfarshire WIFE GEORGE INGLIS 1897 4 Dundee, Forfarshire SON WILLIAM INGLIS 1900 1 Dundee, Forfarshire SON
name : Robt. Low event: Census event date: 1880 event place: Precinct 1, Brown, Texas, United States gender: Male age: 34 marital status : Married occupation : Farming race or color (original) : ethnicity (standardized) : American relationship to head : Self birthplace : Scotland birthdate : 1846 spouse's name : Mary Low spouse's birthplace : Scotland father's name : father's birthplace : Scotland mother's name : mother's birthplace : Scotland page : 384 page character : C entry number : 149 nara film number : T9-1292 gs film number : 1255292 digital folder number: 004244672 image number: 00776 Household Gender Age Birthplace self Robt. Low M 34 Scotland wife Mary Low F 29 Scotland son Chas. B. Low M 13 Scotland Citing this Record "United States Census, 1880," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MFFP-TCT : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Robt. Low, Precinct 1, Brown, Texas, United States; citing sheet 384C, family 0, NARA microfilm publication T9-1292.
groom's name: Charlie Low bride's name: Willie Mc Mahan marriage date: 30 Nov 1887 marriage place: , Brown, Texas indexing project (batch) number: M59141-9 system origin: Texas-VR source film number: 1533474 reference number: 2:10KKB4N Citing this Record "Texas, Marriages, 1837-1973," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FX7X-Z5D : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Charlie Low and Willie Mc Mahan, 30 Nov 1887.
name: Robert Low titles & terms: event: Census event date: 1900 event place: ED 3 Justice Precinct 1 (excl. Brownwood town), Brown, Texas, United States birth date: Jul 1845 birthplace: Scotland relationship to head of household: Head father's birthplace: Scotland mother's birthplace: Scotland race or color (standardized): White gender: Male marital status: Married years married: 35 estimated marriage year: 1865 mother how many children: number living children: immigration year: 1869 page: 11 sheet letter: A family number: 183 reference number: 7 film number: 1241615 digital folder number: 004111960 image number: 00103 Household Gender Age Birthplace head Robert Low M 55 Scotland wife Mary Bell Low F 52 Scotland Citing this Record "United States Census, 1900," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M3LM-5TK : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Robert Low, ED 3 Justice Precinct 1 (excl. Brownwood town), Brown, Texas, United States; citing sheet 11A, family 183, NARA microfilm publication T623, FHL microfilm 1241615. [marr 35 y, immig 1869, naturalized 1875ish]
name: Charles Low titles & terms: event: Census event date: 1900 event place: ED 5 Justice Precinct 1 Brownwood town (north half), Brown, Texas, United States birth date: Sep 1866 birthplace: Scotland relationship to head of household: Head father's birthplace: Scotland mother's birthplace: Scotland race or color (standardized): White gender: Male marital status: Married years married: 10 estimated marriage year: 1890 mother how many children: number living children: immigration year: 1877 page: 6 sheet letter: B family number: 67 reference number: 61 film number: 1241615 digital folder number: 004111960 image number: 00184 Household Gender Age Birthplace head Charles Low M 34 Scotland wife Willie Low F 35 Texas son Robert Low M 12 Texas son William Low M 9 Texas daughter Mary Low F 7 Texas daughter Annie Low F 5 Texas son Nathan Low M 3 Texas Citing this Record "United States Census, 1900," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M321-PDQ : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Charles Low, ED 5 Justice Precinct 1 Brownwood town (north half), Brown, Texas, United States; citing sheet 6B, family 67, NARA microfilm publication T623, FHL microfilm 1241615.
name: Nellie Low birthplace: Texas relationship to head of household: Daughter residence: Brownwood Ward 2, Brown, Texas marital status: Single race : White gender: Female immigration year: father's birthplace: Scotland mother's birthplace: Texas family number: 17 page number: 1 Household Gender Age Birthplace self Chas Low M 43y Scotland wife Willie Low F 43y Texas son Bob Low M 21y Texas son Will Low M 19y Texas dau Mary Low F 16y Texas dau Annie Low F 14y Texas son Nat Low M 12y Texas son Jack Low M 9y Texas dau Nellie Low F 8y Texas dau Gertrude Low F 4y Texas Citing this Record "United States Census, 1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M296-4RH : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Nellie Low in household of Chas Low, Brownwood Ward 2, Brown, Texas; citing sheet 1B, family 17, NARA microfilm publication T624, FHL microfilm 1375548.
name: Nellie Low residence: , Brown, Texas estimated birth year: 1903 age: 17 birthplace: Texas relationship to head of household: Daughter gender: Female race: White marital status: Single father's birthplace: Scotland mother's birthplace: Texas film number: 1821782 digital folder number: 4390809 image number: 00152 sheet number: 7 Household Gender Age Birthplace self Charles Low M 53y Scotland wife Millie Low F 54y Texas son Nat Low M 27y Texas son Jack Low M 19y Texas dau Nellie Low F 17y Texas dau Gertrude Low F 14y Texas Citing this Record "United States Census, 1920," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MHY5-SPS : accessed 12 Oct 2012), Nellie Low in household of Charles Low, , Brown, Texas; citing enumeration district (ED) , sheet 7B, family 148, NARA microfilm publication T625, FHL microfilm 1821782.
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