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Hi there,

I am wanting to look into the following family. I descend from the eldest child and am interested in seeing what became of her brother Thomas and sisters. Do they show on the 1851 census? I don't anything other than their baptism, so can't give any more information. Is there anything more I can do to find out more about these distant aunts and unle of mine?

Thomas Johnson and Jane Dale

Husband Thomas Johnson
Born
Married 21 May 1777 Bedale, Yorkshire
Other Spouse(s)
Died
Parents

Wife Jane Dale
Born
Other Spouse(s)
Died
Parents

Children
1 F
Mary Johnson
Born BEF 20 May 1778 Crakehall, Yorkshire
Spouse William Miller
Married 22 Nov 1802 Thornton Watlass, Yorkshire
Died ABT 29 Nov 1863 South Otterington, Yorkshire
2 F
Jane Johnson
Born BEF 02 Nov 1780 Crakehall, Yorkshire
Spouse
Married
Died
3 M
William Johnson
Born BEF 27 Feb 1783 Crakehall, Bedale, Yorkshire
Spouse Esther ?
Married
Died ABT 19 Apr 1859 Crakehall, Yorkshire
4 F
Ann Johnson
Born BEF 08 Jul 1786 Crakehall, Bedale, Yorkshire
Spouse
Married
Died
5 F
Catherine Johnson
Born BEF 22 Jan 1790 Crakehall, Bedale, Yorkshire
Spouse
Married
Died
6 M
Thomas Johnson
Born BEF 18 Jan 1793 Crakehall, Bedale, Yorkshire
Spouse
Married
Died
7 F
Margaret Johnson
Born BEF 12 Jul 1795 Crakehall, Bedale, Yorkshire
Spouse
Married
Died


Thanks,

Peter

Could this be William and possibly his wife on the 1841 census:-

1841 census transcription details for: Crakehall, Bedale, Crakehall

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 1250
Book/Folio: 4/16
Page: 3
Reg. District: Bedale
Sub District: Bedale
Parish: Bedale
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Crakehall, Bedale, Crakehall
County: Yorkshire

Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

JOHNSON, William M 58 1783 Yorkshire (occ. shoemaker)
JOHNSON, Easter F 60 1781 Yorkshire
CHAPMAN, Margret F 18 1823 Yorkshire
HALL, Lettis F 15 1826 Yorkshire
WRAY, Margret F 69 1772 Yorkshire
GREEN, Marianne F 30 1811 Yorkshire

Kath. x

Again in the 1851 census:-

1851 census transcription details for: Crown Inn

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2378
Folio: 122
Page: 13
Reg. District: Bedale
Sub District: Bedale
Parish:
Enum. District: 8B
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Crown Inn
County: Yorkshire (North riding)

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born

JOHNSON, William Head Married M 68 1783 Cordwainer Grocer
Crakehall, Yorkshire
JOHNSON, Esther Wife Married F 70 1781
Bedale, Yorkshire
METCALFE, Margaret Servant Unmarried F 15 1836
Burniston, Yorkshire

Kath. x

Yes that is certainly them. Thank you. I wonder what stories the other siblings will bring. Thank you!

I would think all of the females would be married by the 1841 census so not sure how you will find them without actually looking at the parish records.

Kath. x

Ah that makes things a little tricky - is there no sign of Thomas Johnson?!

Peter.

This is the only likely Thomas I could see in 1851 but not certain it's him. Richmond isn't too far from Bedale:-

1851 census transcription details for: Providence Lodge

National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107
Piece: 2381
Folio: 458
Page: 22
Reg. District: Richmond Union
Sub District: Newsham
Parish:
Enum. District: 7
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Providence Lodge
County: Yorkshire (North riding)

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
JOHNSON, Thomas Head Married M 58 1793 Farmer 44 Acres
Richmond, Yorkshire
JOHNSON, Isabella Wife Married F 60 1791 Farmer Wife
Marrick, Yorkshire

Kath. x

Oh this is difficult.

Peter.

Erected in memory of William Johnson of this place, who departed this life April 18th 1859, aged 76 years.
Blessed are they who die in the Lord, from henceforth. Yea saith the spirit, that they may rest from their labours, and their works do follow them.
ALSO Esther, wife of the above, who departed this life March 18th 1861, aged 80 years.
Her end was peace.

Found on this site: http://www.glenlodge.me.uk/archives/gravestones.html
The site also has other indexes of Crakehall which may be of some use in your research.

Are you sure you have the right death for William - the probate relating to the death was proved at York on 3/6/1859 and states he was a shoemaker of Crakehall. Executors of the will were Christopher Deighton (canon of Crakehall, a butcher) and John Miller of Newby Wiske (County farm bailiff).

There is no probate record for Esther that I can see.

Wow that is a fantastic find! Thank you so much Flip! I am astounded at that. Now, I don't have William's probabte (and his death on my records is taken as an estimate, two days before his burial). William Johnson was mentioned in my his brother-in-law, William Miller's will from 1844, who is the father of John Miller of Newby Wiske. This is fascinating.

Also thank you for the link! That is amazing.

Also, I noticed this and wonder if this relates to Jane Johnson, born 1780:

Sacred to the memory of Jane Charlton, daughter of Thomas and James Johnson of Crakehall, who died March [ illegible ] 1848, age 68 years .... [ there is more but it is illegible ]

What do you think?

Than you again.

Also, a cousin?

Erected in memory of John Johnson, who died May 9th 1852, aged 76 years.
ALSO Elizabeth, wife of the above, who died ...[ illegible ]...1852, aged 78 years.

The will of William Miller (which mentions the above William Johnson):

This is the last Will and Testament of me William Miller Thornton Le Street near Thirsk in the County of York Farmer I give and bequeath unto my Brother in Law William Johnson of Crakehall near Bedale in the said County his executors administrators and assigns all my personal estate and effects whatsoever and wheresoever upon trust with all convenient speed after my decease by sale or otherwise to convert the whole thereofunto money with liberty nevertheless for my son Matthew to take my interest in the Farms now occupied by me at Thornton le Street and the stock crops and Farming implements which may be therein at the tme of my decease at a valuation thereof to be made by indifferent persons one to be chosen by the said William Johnson his executors administrators and assigns and the other by my said son Matthew and in case of their disagreement then by and … to be chosen by such two person before their proceeding on such valuation And upon further trust to lay out the proceeds of such sale or conversion and all other my personal estate on real or Government securities at interest and pay the interest dividends and annual proceeds thereof unto my dear Wife for and during the term of her natural life and from an immediately after her decease to pay and divide the whole of my said personal estate and the funds from which such dividends and interest shall have proceeded unto and amongst all my children living and the issue of such of them as are dead as following viz to my son Matthew the sum of Thirty pounds and to my daughter Ann the sum of Ten pounds and after such payments respectively to pay and divide the rresidue thereof unto and equally amongst my said son and daughter Matthew and Ann and all my other children now living and the issue of such of them as are dead such issue if more than one to take their … share in equal proportions on their respectively attaining the age of twenty one years the interest thereof in the meantime to be applied towards their respective maintenance and education I appoint the said William Johnson sole Executor of this my Will and direct that he shall be at liberty to retain and pay all such costs charges and expenses as he shall have been put into carrying into effect the trusts of this my Will and that he shall not be answerable for any losses or damages unless the same shall happen by his wilful neglect or … and I revoke all former Wills In Witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this Thirteenth day of November one thousand eight hundred and forty four Will Miller Signed sealed published and declared by the said testator William Miller as and for this lat Will and Testament in the presence of us who in his presence at this request and in the presence of each other have hereunto subscribed our names as witnesses Jo Ridler Sol Thirsk Thos Holdem _ Thornton le Street Passed 22nd April 1845

Can I ask for a census look-up for:

1) Erected in memory of John Johnson, who died May 9th 1852, aged 76 years.
ALSO Elizabeth, wife of the above, who died ...[ illegible ]...1852, aged 78 years.

2) Sacred to the memory of Jane Charlton, daughter of Thomas and James Johnson of Crakehall, who died March [ illegible ] 1848, age 68 years .... [ there is more but it is illegible ]

Thank you!

John and Elizabeth?

1851 England Census
about John Johnson - Ag Lab
Name: John Johnson
Age: 73
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1778
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Johnson
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Dent, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Crakehall
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Bedale
Sub-registration district: Bedale
ED, institution, or vessel: 8b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Piece: 2378
Folio: 116
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
John Johnson 73
Elizabeth Johnson 76 b Snape
George Pickering 66 Lodger
John Stapleton 38 Lodger

Only two Jane Charltons of right age coming up in 1841; given her parents' names I would guess the first but is it in the right area of Yorkshire?

1841 England Census
about Jane Charlton
Name: Jane Charlton
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1781
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Easington
Hundred: Holderness (South Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Patrington
Sub-registration district: Patrington
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1222
Book: 15
Folio: 3
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Charlton 60
Jane Charlton 12
Thomas Charlton 10


Name: Jane Charlton
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Scalby
Hundred: Pickering Lythe
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Scarborough
Sub-registration district: Scarborough
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1261
Book: 8
Folio: 17
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Carlton 30
John Charlton 55
Jane Charlton 55
Robert Charlton 20

You're welcome Peter, I only questioned Williams death because of the occupation in 1851 - now I see he was a shoemaker in 1841, so it all ties in, and I had thought John Miller was connected as Mary getting married to William Miller.

Right, I am not sure about John and Elizabeth but can I ask for a look-up for Thomas Charlton born 1840?! Does he show on 1851?!

Ah thank you also Flip. This is a great find.

Thanks,

Peter

Where have you plucked Thomas from? There are a number showing on 1851 census - who do you think his parents are, and where do you think he was born?

Peter, do you mean the Thomas Charlton in the 1841 I posted - aged 10 so born 1831?

Possibly this one - the family is on the 1841 but there is no Thomas with them. On the same page is a Thomas Johnson, Tailor, born Easington

1851 England Census
about Francis Charlton
Name: Francis Charlton
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1786
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Frances Charlton
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Kilnsea, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Easington
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Patrington
Sub-registration district: Patrington
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 54
Piece: 2364
Folio: 223
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Charlton 65
Frances Charlton 60
Moody Charlton 31
Thomas Charlton 20
Mick Locking Charlton