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Shirley

Shirley Report 28 Sep 2012 00:51

Hi
I wonder if anyone can find evidence of an arndall hocking moving to america, maybe fall river or massachusetts around 1900? he married for the second time to ellen kay in burnley lancs, then i find no trace of him , bur did hear he moved to america.
hopefully
shirley :-)

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Sep 2012 01:08

Born when and where ?

Last location ?

Any children ?

His occupation ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Sep 2012 01:14

1863 Lelant, Cornwall

Married 1891 and 1900 in Burnley

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Sep 2012 01:16

England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name: Arndall Hocking
Date of Trial: 12 Jul 1888
Trial Year: 1888
Location of Trial: Lancashire, England
Sentence: Imprisonment


Name: Arndall Hocking
Age: 36
Birth Year: abt 1864
Marriage Date: 20 Nov 1900
Parish: Burnley, St Matthew
Spouse: Ellen Kay

Spouse Age: 22
Father: Richard Hocking
Spouse Father: Howorth Kay
Reference Number: Pr 3106/1/6


1901
Name: Armdall Hocking
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen Hocking
Gender: Male
Where born: Lelant, Cornwall, England

Civil parish: Burnley
Ecclesiastical parish: Habergham Eaves St Matthew
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Burnley
Sub-registration district: West Ward
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 199
Piece: 3871
Folio: 42
Page Number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Armdall Hocking 37
Ellen Hocking 22
Doris Hocking 5

Shirley

Shirley Report 28 Sep 2012 01:28

Thankyou, yes thasts them. at least i now know he was still in burnley in 1901. I think he moved to america and i think he moved there with his brother perhaps, walter hocking, born around 1869 in cornwall ,. Walter married emma lockett in 1893 in burnley and i can find no deaths etc of them either.
thanks for that glitterbaby. Its interesting that he had a criminal record, i guess that would not stop him in those days from moving to america?
thanks again for that. :-)

Shirley

Shirley Report 28 Sep 2012 01:28

Thankyou, yes thasts them. at least i now know he was still in burnley in 1901. I think he moved to america and i think he moved there with his brother perhaps, walter hocking, born around 1869 in cornwall ,. Walter married emma lockett in 1893 in burnley and i can find no deaths etc of them either.
thanks for that glitterbaby. Its interesting that he had a criminal record, i guess that would not stop him in those days from moving to america?
thanks again for that. :-)

Shirley

Shirley Report 28 Sep 2012 01:29

Thankyou, yes thasts them. at least i now know he was still in burnley in 1901. I think he moved to america and i think he moved there with his brother perhaps, walter hocking, born around 1869 in cornwall ,. Walter married emma lockett in 1893 in burnley and i can find no deaths etc of them either.
thanks for that glitterbaby. Its interesting that he had a criminal record, i guess that would not stop him in those days from moving to america?
thanks again for that. :-)

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Sep 2012 01:37

No got a sub at the moment to FMP

Female Hocking 1878
Male - A Hocking 1864
Annie Hocking 1901
Bores Hocking 1895 - male

Travelled from Glasgow to New York in 1901

But no idea if right family

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Sep 2012 01:40

Would appear he got imprisoned for one day for forging a telegram ??

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Sep 2012 01:44

1900 US census has an entry for Walter Hocking and Emma but not got the right sub on Ancestry to view it

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Sep 2012 01:49

Name: Walter Hocking
Age: 24
Birth Year: abt 1869
Marriage Date: 11 Feb 1893
Parish: Habergham Eaves, Holy Trinity
Spouse: Emma Lockett

Spouse Age: 21
Father: Richard Hocking
Spouse Father: George Lockett
Reference Number: Pr 3098/1/21

Occupation of commercial traveller




Name: Walter Hocking
Birth Date: abt 1869
Age: 25
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 12 May 1894
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Lucania
Search Ship Database: View the 'Lucania' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: No owner or agent listed
Official Number: 102105

Occupation of traveller

Shirley

Shirley Report 28 Sep 2012 01:50

hI
THANKS GLITTER BABY.
LOOKING LIKE MAYBE WALTER AND EMMA GOT TO AMERICA FIRST THEN. i KNOW ANOTHER BROTHER, WILLIAM J WHO DIED IN 1900 IN ENGLAND HAD FAMILY WHO ALL ENDED UP LIVING IN AMERICA, BUT HIS WIDOWED WIFE DIED IN CANADA. SO I WAS THINKING THAT MAYBE THEY MOVED THERE TO BE WITH WALTER AND ARNDALLS FAMILY.
THANKS GLITTERBABY, YOUVE BEEN REALLY HELPFUL.
REGARDS
SHIRLEY

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Sep 2012 01:53

You could do with a member with FMP sub or can look at US records on Ancestry because I can not go any further.

jax

jax Report 28 Sep 2012 02:25

passenger transcript details
Name: Mr A HOCKING
Date of departure: 3 October 1901
Port of departure: Glasgow
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA

Date of Birth: 1864 (calculated from age)
Age: 37
Marital status: Married
Sex: Male
Occupation: Shoemaker
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 7





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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Mrs HOCKING Page 1 of 7 View transcript
Annie HOCKING Page 2 of 7 View transcript
Bores HOCKING Page 2 of 7 View transcript



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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
ASTORIA
0
Wilson
Anchor Line Of Mail Steamships
New York, USA
9495
3228
298


SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Sep 2012 04:21

from the Ellis Island site ........ a free site. You have to register with them to see the passenger lists, and ship's manifest


www.ellisisland.org



First Name: Emma
Last Name: Hocking
Ethnicity: England, English
Last Place of Residence: Burnley,
Date of Arrival: Sep 25, 1895
Age at Arrival: 24y Gender: F Marital Status:
Ship of Travel: Teutonic
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Manifest Line Number: 0131


from image of ship's manifest ............

Walter Hocking, 26, Traveller, Burnley

Emma, Weaver

Both going to Boston, intending to become Permanent Residents



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Sep 2012 04:40

Is this Emma returning to the UK


UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 about Emma Hocking

Name: Emma Hocking
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 14 Sep 1910
Port of Arrival: Southampton, England
Ship Name: Oceanic
Search Ship Database: View the 'Oceanic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: White Star Line
Official Number: 110596



She's accompanied by children :--

Hilda
Arthur
George


no ages given.

She describes herself as "wife"



They then returned to the US ...... from Ellis Island



First Name: Emma
Last Name: Hocking
Ethnicity: England, English
Last Place of Residence: Devenport, England
Date of Arrival: Sep 20, 1911
Age at Arrival: 32y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Oceanic
Port of Departure: Southampton
Manifest Line Number: 0001


Address in England:-

Mother and Grandmother
Mrs Pugsley
92 (can't decipher street name) Ave
Keyham, Devonport



OOOOPS


Probably NOT yours ........... they are returning to Husband and Father,

T (or F) Hocking
79 Washington Street
New York


and they had all been born in Devonport





sylvia

mgnv

mgnv Report 29 Sep 2012 05:51

You can search 1900/40 (and view images) at:
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_STATES

name: Emma Hocking
titles & terms:
event: Census
event date: 1900
event place: ED 154 Fall River city (incl. City Hospital) Ward 8, Bristol, Massachusetts, United States
birth date: Feb 1871
birthplace: Massachusetts
relationship to head of household: Wife
father's birthplace: England
mother's birthplace: England
race or color (standardized): White
gender: Female
marital status: Married
years married: 8
estimated marriage year: 1892
mother how many children: 1
number living children: 1
immigration year:
page: 5
sheet letter: A
family number: 41
reference number: 17
film number: 1240636
digital folder number: 004113821
image number: 00431
Household Gender Age Birthplace
head Walter Hocking M 31 England
wife Emma Hocking F 29 Massachusetts
daughter Ethel G Hocking F 4 Massachusetts
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1900," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M95L-FX7 : accessed 29 Sep 2012), Emma Hocking in household of Walter Hocking, ED 154 Fall River city (incl. City Hospital) Ward 8, Bristol, Massachusetts, United States; citing sheet 5A, family 41, NARA microfilm publication T623, FHL microfilm 1240636.
[Walter was a Collector - Insurance immig 1893 - Ethel's pob=MA]

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 29 Sep 2012 07:45

Boston Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1943
Name: Ellen Hocking
Arrival Date: 19 Nov 1903
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: English
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Saxonia
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Arndell Hocking (Husband, 15, Beetle Gdns?)
Last Residence: N Bedford Fall River

(with her looks, Doris 8 and Annie)

Chris :)

Shirley

Shirley Report 29 Sep 2012 12:05

Thanks guys, youve been great. So looks like walter and emma came first, then came arndall , followed by ellen and the kids. Im going to try and track them in fall river now. youve been really helpful, thanks.
shirley :-)

Shirley

Shirley Report 3 May 2021 21:42

How can I discover what happened to these hockings once tgey got to massachusetts? Is there a way to check deaths et.
:-)