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I double checked and it seems that the two generations below James all lived and died in Dalrymple. James is also believed to have died in the river in that area too.

For some reason, I thought Dalry and Dalrymple were in the same area but they aren't. Apologies - it is definately Dalrymple and not Dalry or Dailly (will edit my first post).

Andrea....There is a death for a Margaret Mckie July13 1829 of Consumption in the Village of Dalry so its possible she was James 1st wife...(women often listed under maiden name)

I am away to watch the football but will have another look later tonight.....

We are definately looking at Dalry not Dailly...??

Thanks all !

Eringobragh1916 -My James definately married a Margaret so the Jane is not correct. I know this as the census data Beverley listed above is correct for the children.

I suppose it's entirely possible Margaret Mackie could be the right one but although Dundonald appears to be in Ayrshire - generations of this family are all in Dalry / Dalrymple which is why I believe Margaret Duff is correct.

The Duff tree I took the information on also shows this Margaret as having the children (specifically Samuel) I am following.

I'm not really sure how else to narrow it down to be certain the info is correct ?

Beverley - I used the info you gave me for Scotland's People, however it's coming up with a James McNish - there is no James McMicken listed

BeverleyW

I eventually found the 1830 marriage (EDIT on thread) however I think Andrea needs to confirm it is definately her family eg James..as I have also found another marriage for a James McMiken to a Jane Ralston ..pre the one for Margaret McKie however there must be more than 1 James in Dalry/Dailly as the James and Jane had a child in the same year as James and Margaret McKie..!!


The fact that Andrea says she has taken data from the Margaret Duff Tree could be taking her down the wrong path unless she has definative proof that this is her James....

Ayrshire isnt my forte either its only because I had some old data from the area I could find what I have posted...

Hmm the one I found (above) for 1830 is in Dalrymple. I'm afraid I have no idea of the geography of Ayrshire !

Andrea....

From Old Parish Records cannot find the marriage of James to Margaret Duff (1830) but have found the following..(wonder if it is the same James..or did he marry twice..??)

EDIT......Found the 1830 marriage...!! Margaret was from the Parish of ?Coylton


1826

December 12th ... James McMiken, of the Parish of Dundonald, and Margaret Mackie, of this Parish, were Married.

Andrea:
Pre 1855 Births and Baptisms
Surname McMicken
Select 'Traditional soundex'
Date from 1 Jan 1802
Date to 31 Dec 1802
County Ayr
Parish Dailly (Note - NOT Dalry, very similar word!)

Your search found 1 match.
Hope you can find it!

Beverley

Andrea... From Old Parish Records

James McMiken drowned in the River Ayr (Dalrymple) December 1st 1835...
He is buried Dalrymple Churchyard....
(Dont know if these 3 were together)


December 1st ... James McMiken in Dalrymple, Drowned in the River Ayr. He was Buried in Dalrymple Churchyard.

December 1st ... Andrew Symington, age 24, in Dalrymple, Drowned in the River Ayr. He was Buried in Dalrymple Churchyard.

December 1st ... James Murdoch in Piperston, Drowned in the River Ayr. He was Buried in Dalrymple Churchyard.

1838...Dont know if he is related .... (May well be the son John b 1831)

November 3rd ... John McMiken in Dalrymple, Died of Disease of the Head. He was Buried in Dalrymple Churchyard.

Hmm for some reason I can't find that record Beverley.

Thanks Beverley !

I guess from the 1841 census it looks like he was already dead by then. I've got some credits so I'll go check out the baptism reference.

Thanks Beverley !

I guess from the 1841 census it looks like he was already dead by then. I've got some credits so I'll go check out the baptism reference.

ScotlandsPeople shows one baptism for a James McMicken in Dailly, Ayrshire, in 1802.
You will need some credits to get the full details.

Beverley

1851:

Piece: SCT1851/588 Place: Ayr -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Dalrymple Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Dalrymple
Folio: 0 Page: 7 Schedule: 39
Address: Village Of Dalrymple

MCMICKEN Margaret Head W F 51 Out Door Worker Agricultural Ayrshire - Dalrymple

Son Samuel is a servant in Kirkmichael

Piece: SCT1851/600 Place: Ayr -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 8
Civil Parish: Kirkmichael Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: Kirkmichael
Folio: 0 Page: 14 Schedule: 47
Address: King Street Crosshill

groom's name: James Mcmicken
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Margaret Duff
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 17 Aug 1830
marriage place: Dalrymple,Ayr,Scotland
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:

1841:

Piece: SCT1841/588 Place: Dalrymple -Ayrshire Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Dalrymple Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island:
Folio: 0 Page: 5
Address: Dalrymple Village

MCMICKEN Margaret F 40 Tile Washer Ayrshire
MCMICKEN Samuel M 7 Ayrshire
MCMICKEN Margaret F 4 Ayrshire

Hi

I am trying to find any information about the above. The only details I currently have are the following :

He married Margaret Henderson Duff on Aug 17 1830
He had 2 sons (John 1831 and Samuel 1833) and a daughter (Margaret 1836)

This information I have pulled from research done by someone tracing the tree of Margaret Duff so information regarding James was non-existant aside from the above.They did note that he possibly died in 1835 after drowning in a river but were not able to confirm it was this particular James.

I also cannot find any record of the marriage on Scotland's people.

I know he was definately deceased in 1858 when his son Samuel married as I have seen this wedding cert.

He was most likely born and also lived in the Dalrymple area of Ayrshire, Scotland.

What would be the next step to gaining any further info such as DOB etc ?

Any information would be gratefully received.