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Rogger Viane and Lizzie Mellor

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Sandra

Sandra Report 20 Sep 2012 09:51

Good Morning. I have for almost 20 years, been trying to find the parents of Rogger Viane who married Elizabeth Hoskin in 1689.

I am also trying to find the burial place of my grandmother, lizzie Mellor, somewhere in Bristol, England.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

Sandra

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Sep 2012 10:02

Hi Sandra and welcome to the boards.

Regarding Lizzi Mellor........can you give us some more information about her.

Do you know when and where she was born?.....When she died?.....Her maiden name and who she married?

Prickles.

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 20 Sep 2012 10:10

Have you already seen this Will?

It doesn't tell you who Roger's parents are, but as he signed the will, it may give some clue towards his family.

Gorran
26th Aprilis 1682
Joahnnis Vyant deseaced

Latin preamble

The condition of this oblion is such that if the above bounden Cheston Vyant the mother and
Administratrix of all and singular the goodes Chattles and Credits of John Viant
deced do make or cause to be made a true and perfect Inventory of all and singular the goods Chattels
and Credits of the said deced which have or shall come to the hands or possession & knowledge
of her the sd Cheston Viant or into the hands and possession of any other person or persons
for and the same so made doe exhibit or cause to be exhibited into the Registry of the sd
Archdeaconry Court of Cornwall att or before the last day of July next ensueing:
And the same goods chattels and Creditts and all other the goods Chattles and Credits of the sd
deced att the time of his death which att any time after shall come to the hands or possession
of the said Cheston Viant or into the hands or possession of any other pson or
psons for her doe well and truly administer according to Law: And further do make or
cause to be made a true and just accompt of Said Adion att or before the last day of
March next ensuing: And all the rest and residue of the said goods Chattles and Credits
which shall be found remaining upon the said Administratrix’s account the same being first
examined and allowed of by the Judge or Judges for the time being of the sd Courts
shall deliver and pay unto such pson or psons respectively as the sd Judge or Judges
by his or their decree of sentence pursuant to the true intent and meaning of an
Act of parliament Intituled an Act for the better settling of Intestates Estates shall
limitt and appoint And if it shall hereafter appear that any Last will and
Testament was made by the sd deced And his Executor or Executrix therein named
doe exhibit the same into the said Court making: request to have it allowed and
approved accordingly of the sd Cheston Viant above bounden being
thereunto required do render and deliver the said Letters of Adion approbation of
such Testament being first had and made in the sd Court then this psent obion to
be void and of none effect otherwise to remain in full force and Virtue
Sealed and delivered in presence of
John Anstis
Thomas Warne signe of Cheston Vyant
Roger Viant
Signe of Thomas Hancocke

ChristinaS

ChristinaS Report 20 Sep 2012 10:15

And this one.

Gorran
18th March 1679
Richard Vyan d.sd

Latin preamble

The condition of this oblion is such that if the above bounden Roger Vyan the Brother and
Administrator of all and singular the goodes Chattles and Credits of Richard Vyan late of Gorran
deced do make or cause to be made a true and perfect Inventory of all and singular the goods chattels and Credits
of the said deced which have or shall come to the hands or possession & knowledge of him the said Roger
Vyan or into the hands and possession of any other person or persons for him and the same so made
doe exhibit or cause to be exhibited into the registry of the said Archdeaconry Court of Cornwall att
or before the last day of May next ensueing: and the same goods chattels and Creditts
and all other the goods Chattles and Credits of the said deced att the time of death which att any time
after shall come to the hands or possession of any other person or persons for him doe well and truly
administer according to Law: And further do make or cause to be made a true and just accomt of
Said Admon att or before the last day of January next ensuing: And all the rest and
residue of the said goods Chattles and Credits which shall be found remaining upon the said Administrators
account the same being first examined and allowed of by the Judge or Judges for the time being of the said
Courts shall deliver and pay unto such person or persons respectively as the said Judge or Judges
by his or their admission deliver pursuant to the true intent and meaning of an Act of parliament Intitled
an Act for the better settling of Intestates Estates shall limit and appoint And if it shall hereafter
appear that any last will and testament was made by the said deced and the Executor or Executors therein
named doe exhibit the Same into the Said Court making request to have it allowed and approved accordingly
of the sd Roger Vyan above bounden being thereunto required do render and deliver the said
Letters of Admion approbation of such testament being first had and read in the said Court then this present
obligation to be void and of none effect otherwise to remain in full force and order.
Sealed and delivered in presence of
Jo: Robins
Thomas Warne Roger Vyan
Edw: M---s?
William? goard

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Sep 2012 10:19

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Rogger Viane
England, Marriages, 1538–1973
marriage: 22 Oct 1689 Gorran,?Cornwall,?England
spouse: Elizabeth Hoskin
groom's name: Rogger Viane
bride's name: Elizabeth Hoskin
marriage date: 22 Oct 1689
marriage place: Gorran,Cornwall,England
indexing project (batch) number: M05335-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number:

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Sep 2012 10:22

??

Rogger Viant
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
spouse: Elizebeth
child: John Viant
name: John Viant
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 28 Sep 1690
baptism/christening place: GORRAN,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
father's name: Rogger Viant
mother's name: Elizebeth
indexing project (batch) number: C05335-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 916938, 916971

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Sep 2012 12:40

I have PMd Sandra to advise her on how to return to her thread. :-)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Sep 2012 16:31

PM received from Sandra...........

My Gran was born in Hanham, Bristol, in 1879.

She married Isaac Hill in Bristol about 1916.

She died on 1st October 1959.

Sandra

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Sep 2012 16:34

I see that Lizzie appears in the census records as "Lizzie" and yet she married under the name of Elizabeth.

Either way, i can't see an appropriate birth registered for a Lizzie or Elizabeth.


England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about Elizabeth Mellor
Name: Elizabeth Mellor
Spouse Name: Isaac Hill
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1916
Registration district: Keynsham
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume Number: 5a
Page Number: 1156

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Sep 2012 16:36

1881 England Census
about Lizzie Mellor
Name: Lizzie Mellor
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry Mellor
Mother's Name: Harriet Mellor
Gender: Female
Where born: Hanham, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Bristol St George
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address: Church Rd
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Barton Regis
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2492
Folio: 7
Page Number: 8
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Mellor 25
Harriet Mellor 22
Lizzie Mellor 2
Harry Mellor 7 months


1891 England Census
about Harry Mellor
Name: Harry Mellor
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry Mellor
Mother's Name: Harriet Mellor
Gender: Male
Where born: St George, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Oldland
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Keynsham
Sub-registration district: Oldland
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1943
Folio: 54
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Mellor 35
Harriet Mellor 32
Lizzie Mellor 12
Harry Mellor 10
May Mellor 6
Sarah Mellor 4
Annie Mellor 1
Louisa Mellor 1/12


1901 England Census
about Harry Mellor
Name: Harry Mellor
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry Mellor
Mother's Name: Harriet Mellor
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol, St George

Civil parish: Kingswood
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Hanham
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Keynsham
Sub-registration district: Kingswood
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 167
Piece: 2349
Folio: 77
Page Number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Mellor 45
Harriet Mellor 43
Lizzie Mellor 22
Harry Mellor 20
Sarah Mellor 14
Annie Mellor 11
Louisa Mellor 10
Alice Mellor 8
Margaret Mellor 6
Ernest Mellor 1





PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Sep 2012 16:39

It seems Lizzie and Isaac told a fib on the 1911 census as it states they had been married for 9 years......


Household transcription
1911 census

Person: HILL, Edith E
Address: 6 Speedwell Road St George Bristol

HILL, Isaac Head Married M 32 1879 Hawker Plant And Flowers Gloucestershire Bristol VIEW
HILL, Lizzie Wife Married9 years F 32 1879 Gloucestershire Bristol VIEW
HILL, Annie Daughter Married F 6 1905 School Gloucestershire Bristol VIEW
HILL, Lizzie Daughter F 5 1906 School Gloucestershire Bristol VIEW
HILL, George Son M 3 1908 Gloucestershire Bristol VIEW
HILL, Edith E Daughter F 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 Gloucestershire Bristol VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 14973
Reference: RG14PN14973 RG78PN905 RD319 SD5 ED27 SN47
Registration District: Bristol
Sub District: St George
Enumeration District: 27
Parish: Bristol
Address: 6 Speedwell Road St George Bristol
County: Gloucestershire
( 5children born, 4 living, 1 had died)
.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 20 Sep 2012 16:42

This looks like her death.........

??

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Elizabeth Hill
Name: Elizabeth Hill
Birth Date: abt 1879
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1959
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 110

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 21 Sep 2012 15:01

Hello Sandra and welcome to the community boards.


It may well be worthwhile to look at the cornwall-opc site and play around on there. there are a couple of variations of the spelling of Viane, but definitely worth searching.

Also, if you put the name Viane into the Search all trees box - under Search above - you will see that a couple of other people on this site have your family in their tree.

Cx