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Can anyone help please? I am looking for William Norman born 1869 Egremont, Cumberland. I have found him on the 1901 census and 1911 census. 1901 he is living with his wife and three children in Wiltshire. His wife is Louisa M. born 1875 Maesteg, Glamorgan. On the 1911 census he now has 6 children and lives in Bedwelty, Monmouthshire. I am trying to find him on the 1891 census. He might have lived in Scotland as there is a rumour that he was married in 1895 in Scotland in either Tyndrum or Rannoch Mor. There is also talk of him being a Crane Driver on the Forth Bridge Railway. On the census returns he is an Engine Driver. Perhaps someone with access to the Scottish records could do a look up for me please?
I also cannot find a birth for Louisa May Ford his wife born 1874 in Maesteg, Glamorgan so any help there also appreciated.

Thank you.
Linda

Have you looked on FreeBMD for his wife's birth. If it was registered it should be there

who was his father please .or any other family member he could be with on the 1891 census

If he married in Scotland you need Scotlands People website which isnt a subs site, You have to purchase units to view the info

Posting that 1911 for background:

NORMAN, William Head Married M 42 1869 Engine Driver Cumberland Egremont
NORMAN, Louisa Mary Wife Married16 years F 37 1874 Glamorgan Maesteg
NORMAN, Elizabeth Ford Daughter Single F 15 1896 Hampshire Portsmouth
NORMAN, John Son M 13 1898 Northumberland Rochester
NORMAN, Louisa Mary Daughter F 11 1900 Gloucester Chipping Todbury
NORMAN, Alice Martha Daughter F 8 1903 Middlesex Hounslow
NORMAN, Charles Arthur Son M 2 1909 Mounmouh Fleur de Lis
NORMAN, Alfred James Son M 0 (1 MONTH) 1911 Monmouth Fleur de Lis

RG number: RG14 Piece: 31887
Reference: RG14PN31887 RG78PN1834 RD585 SD3 ED4 SN290
Registration District: Bedwellty
Sub District: Rock Bedwellty
Enumeration District: 4
Parish: Bedwellty

Address: 17 Oak Terrace Fleurdelis County: Monmouthshire

No hits come up on Scotlands People for a marriage for them on the free search

Where have you got her maiden name from please ?

There is no Louisa May born Glamorgan.

Nearest I can see is ....


Births Dec 1875
LLOYD Louisa May - Forden 11b 213


which is on the border of Montgomeryshire and Shropshire

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2 possibles in Glamorgan but no middle names


Births Dec 1874
Ford Louisa - Cardiff 11a 328

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Births Mar 1875
FORD Louisa - Neath 11a 621

1891 census transcription details for: 8, Harcourt Street, Workington


National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 4306
Folio: 41
Page: 20
Reg. District: Cockermouth
Sub District: Workington
Parish: Workington
Enum. District: 25
Ecclesiastical District: St Michaels
City/Municipal Borough: Workington
Address: 8, Harcourt Street, Workington
County: Cumberland
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
NORMAN, John Head Married M 33 1858 Railway Engine Stoker
Brigham, Cumberland
NORMAN, Ann Wife Married F 38 1853
Harrington, Cumberland
NORMAN, William Son M 0 (1M) 1891
Workington, Cumberland
NORMAN, William Lodger Single M 22 1869 Labourer
Brigham, Cumberland

1871 England Census
about William Norman Name: William Norman
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John Norman
Mother's Name: Mary A Norman
Gender: Male
Where born: Egermont, Cumberland, England
Civil parish: Sunderland Bridge
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Household schedule number: 63
Piece: 4964
Folio: 70
Page Number: 12
Household Members: Name Age
John Norman 36
Mary A Norman 20
William Norman 2
John Norman 9 Months
John Grant 26
John Brown 26
Henry Parrell 30
William Mason 37
Henry Clark 25

Slight possibility:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Dec 1874
Ford Louisa Cardiff 11a 328

or

Births Mar 1875
FORD Louisa Neath 11a 621

Sometimes middle names are assumed later ....

Here's his birth

Name: William Norman
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1868
Registration district: Whitehaven
Inferred County: Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 586

Egremont came under Whitehaven reg district

Not seeing anything fitting the bill for William in The UK Railway Employment Records.

Hello everyone.
Thank you all so much for the help.
Thelma, where did you find the 1871 census, was it on Ancestry or Find my past?
Also thank you to Shirley for find his birth.
I now have much more work to do on this tree.
Once again thank you all so much.
Linda

The 1871 came from Ancestry.
Here is FMP.
First Name:WILLIAM
Last Name:NORMAN
Collections from:United Kingdom
Gender:M
Country:ENGLAND
Category:Census, Land & Substitutes
Record collection:Census
Record set:1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Title:
County:Durham
Year:1871
Birth Year:1869
Age:2
Parish:SUNDERLAND BRIDGE
Street:RAILWAY HUT
Occupation:
Birth County:CUMBERLAND
Relationship To Head of Household:
Birth Place:
Birth Town:
City:
Ecclesiastical District:
Enumeration District:25
House Name:
House Number:
House Suffix:
Municipal Ward:
Parliamentary Borough:
Registration District:DURHAM
Town:
Condition:
Inhabited:
Vessel Name:
Archive Reference:RG10
Folio:70
Page:12
Piece Number:4964
Sub District:ST OSWALD

Here is Genes.
Surname
Forenames
Born in
Place of birth
Location in 1871

Norman William 1869 Cumberland Durham, St Oswald

Hi everyone,

I have now found I had the wrong name of Louisa May Ford it should be Louisa Mary Ford. She says on the 1901 and 1911 census she was born in Maesteg Glmorgan. Could this be the Neath registration?
Thank you to Shirley for Williams birth. I now have to find their marriage. They certainly moved around a bit. The rumour was that Louisa Mary and William married in Tyndrum or Rannoch Moor. Having looked this up on a map I cannot imagine why? Why would Louisa Mary go up to the wildes of Scotland to marry. I am still searching for this.
Thank you everyone for your help.
Regards Linda