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Wendy Rita

Wendy Rita Report 19 Sep 2012 04:43

Hi......I would like to find as much information on the family of Ellen Young born 1892 Pangbourne Berkshire......she married my Uncle Richard Wellington Bailey b1889 Chadldlesworth Berkshire...they were married abt 1921 Bradfield Berkshire. I dont think they had any children.

Would very much look forward to some help with the YOUNG family.

Thanks,
Wendy R

jax

jax Report 19 Sep 2012 04:54

1901 England Census
about Ellen Young
Name: Ellen Young
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Stephen Young
Mother's Name: Alice Young
Gender: Female
Where born: Pangbourne, Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Pangbourne
Ecclesiastical parish: Pangbourne St James
Town: Large
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bradfield
Sub-registration district: Tilehurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 123
Piece: 1142
Folio: 114
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Stephen Young 38
Alice Young 30
Ellen Young 9
Edith Young 7
John Cook 60
William Fesher 18




SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2012 05:36

Married first quarter of 1921


Marriages Mar 1921 (>99%)

Bailey Richard W Young Bradfield 2c 809
Young Ellen Bailey Bradfield 2c 809

Astra

Astra Report 19 Sep 2012 05:43

Registered as Ellen Agnes

Births Jun 1892 (>99%)

Young Ellen Agnes Bradfield 2c 335


In 1911 she is working as a housemaid

CARTEIGHE, John Head Married M 57 1854 Dental Surgeon Monchester VIEW
CARTEIGHE, Constance Wife Married23 years F 43 1868 Kennington London VIEW
HAYWARD, Blank Housekeeper Single F 32 1879 Housekeeper Swindon Wilts VIEW
BARRETT, Mary Ann Parlourmaid Single F 28 1883 Parlourmaid Swindon Wilts VIEW
YOUNG, Ellen Agnes Housemaid Single F 20 1891 Housemaid Tilehurst Berks VIEW

RG number: RG14 Piece: 6540 Reference: RG14PN6540 RG78PN324 RD120 SD1 ED10 SN99 Registration District: Bradfield Sub District: Bucklebury Enumeration District: 10 Parish: Goring Address: Thamestank Road Goring County: Berkshire

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2012 06:21

information from the 1901 Census

Name Age
Stephen Young 38 b.ca 1863, Pangbourne, Berkshire, House Painter
Alice Young 30 b.ca 1881, Norwich, Norfolk
Ellen Young 9
Edith Young 7 b.ca 1894, Pangbourne
John Cook 60 Visitor Carpenter
William Fesher 18 Visitor, Carter

Address:- Thames Avenue


no house number given




sylvia


edited to correct Stephen Young's estimated birth year. I did an "ooopsie"

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2012 06:39

1911 Census for Stephen


1911 Census

Name: Stephen Young
Age in 1911: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Pangbourne, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: Whitchurch
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England
Street Address: Meadow Cottage, Whitchurch Hill, Oxon
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Painter and Paperhanger
Registration district: Bradfield
Registration District Number: 120
Sub-registration district: Tilehurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 173
Piece: 6554

Stephen Young 49



he's living alone




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2012 06:45

1881 Census

Name: Stephen Young
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William J. Young
Mother's Name: Agnes Y. Young
Gender: Male
Where born: Pangbourne, Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Pangbourne
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address: Village

Occupation: Plumber & Painter Etc ... Working

Registration district: Bradfield
Sub-registration district: Tilehurst

William J. Young 51 b.ca 1830, Stratsfieldsaye, Hampshire, Master Plumber & Painter with Boys working
Agnes Y. Young 44 b.ca 1837, Pangbourne
Agnes P. Young 20 b.ca 1861, Pangbourne
Stephen Young 18
William J. Young 15 b.ca 1866, Pangbourne, Plumber & Painter Etc ... Working
Thomas G. Young 12 b.ca 1869, Pangbourne
Joseph A. Young 5 b.ca 1876, Pangbourne

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2012 06:48

Here's Edith in 1911

Name: Edith Constance Young
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Pangbourne, Berkshire, England
Civil parish: Farnborough
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: Wykeham, Alexandra Road, South Farnborough, Hants
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: House Maid Boarding House
Registration district: Hartley Wintney
Registration District Number: 109
Sub-registration district: Farnborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 6
Piece: 6253

Florence Harris 47
Annie Letitia Crumplin 28
Edith Constance Young 17
Lucy Joan Crumplin 15
Henry George Gale 14




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2012 06:50

I can't find a marriage for Stephen and Alice

Wendy Rita

Wendy Rita Report 19 Sep 2012 12:00

My Thanks to Jax....Sylvia.....Astra.....for your kind help.

Would there be any chance of you helping me find parents of William Young b1830 Stratfieldsaye & his wife Agnes 1837 Pangbourne

Thanks
Wendy R

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Sep 2012 12:07

Just posting the 1861 as it gives William's full middle name:

YOUNG, William John Head Married M 31 1830 Plumber & Glaizer Stratfieldsaye, Hampshire
YOUNG, Agnes Wife Married F 24 1837 Wallingford, Berkshire
YOUNG, Priscilla Daughter F 0 (1M) 1861 Pangbourne

Piece: 744 Folio: 117 Page: 6
Registration District: Bradfield
Civil Parish: Pangbourne

Address: Pangbourne Village, Pangbourne County: Berkshire

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Sep 2012 12:09

Looks like a possibility:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1858
Davidson Agnes Young Bradfield 2c 737
Young William John Bradfield 2c 737

You can look up these records at no cost on FreeBMD http://www.freebmd.org.uk

Interesting that Agnes' middle name is the same as her husband's surname.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Sep 2012 12:13

They had a son get married in Canada:

British Columbia, Marriage Registrations, 1859-1932,

name: Joseph Alexander Young
event: Marriage
event date: 30 Jun 1927
event place: New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
age: 51
estimated birth year: 1876
birthplace: Pangbourne, England
marital status: Widowed
residence:
father: William John Young
mother: Agnes Young Davidson
spouse: Delphinium Johnson
spouse's age: 40
spouse's estimated birth year: 1887
spouse's birthplace: Berkshire, England
spouse's marital status: Spinster
spouse's residence:
spouse's father: Edward Glasson Johnson
spouse's mother: Sarah Jane Theobald
film number: 2074507
digital folder number: 004401589
image number: 01167
bc archives film number: B13754
reference number: 27 09 324945
banns or license: License

Citing this Record
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JDD9-JHR

If you click on this link above it will take you to the record. On there you can click on "view image" to see the actual certificate

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Sep 2012 12:18

If you do some searches on FamilySearch you can find baptisms for William & Agnes children https://www.familysearch.org

I won't spoil the fun of you finding these records for yourself.

Wendy Rita

Wendy Rita Report 19 Sep 2012 12:40

Marie.....thank you I will certainly go from where you said.....and thank you so much for your kind help.....thank you so much.

Wendy R

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 19 Sep 2012 13:33

You're very welcome Wendy. Do let us know if you want any further help.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2012 20:31

???????

Agnes in 1851 ?????


1851 Census

Name: Agness Davidson
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Alexander Davidson
Mother's Name: Agness Davidson
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Pangbourne, Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Pangbourne
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bradfield
Sub-registration district: Bucklebury

Alexander Davidson 40 b.ca 1811, Dalby, Ayrshire, Scotland, Gardener
Agness Davidson 38 b.ca 1813, Dalby
Agness Davidson 14
David Davidson 12 b.ca 1835, Wallingford, Berkshire
William Davidson 10 b.ca 1841, Milton, Berkshire
Ann James Davidson 3 b.ca 1848, Pangbourne



no house or street address given.


NOTE:- there is very clearly a "Y" between Agness and Davidson for Agness the daughter, b. ca 1837



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2012 20:41

and in 1841???


1841 Census

Name: Agnes Davidson
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Gender: Female
Where born: Berkshire, England

Civil parish: Pangbourn
Hundred: Reading
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bradfield
Sub-registration district: Tilehurst

Frederic Smithling 22
Alexander Davidson 30 b.ca 1811, Scotland, Gardener
Agnes Davidson 25 b.ca 1816, Scotland
Agnes Davidson 4
David Davidson 2 b.ca 1839, Berkshire
William Davidson 10 Mo b.ca 1840, Berkshire



Note that the 1841 Census does NOT show the relationship between people living in the same house. Thus, there is no explanation of Frederic Smithling. The image is hard to read, but my feeling is that Frederic belongs to the woman and another young person living in West End Cottage ....... and that Alexander may have been their Gardener.


Plus the ages of people over the age of 15 are usually rounded down to the nearest 5 ........ so may be as much as 4 years younger than the actual age.





sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2012 20:44

There are several marriages for an Alexander Davidson to an Agnes on www.familysearch.org/


but what do you think of this one ?????????????????


"Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910," Alexander Davidson, 1833

groom's name: Alexander Davidson
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Agnes Young <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 16 Apr 1833
marriage place: Dailly,Ayr,Scotland
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M11585-4
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 1041337
reference number:

Citing this Record
"Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch



They both said they were from Dalby, Ayrshire on the 1851 Census


Could "Dailly" be a mis-transcription for Dalby????????????????????




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 19 Sep 2012 20:48

Unfortunately, Agnes was born before bmd registration began in England ....... which was July 1 1837

This is her baptism


"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," Agnes Young Davidson, 1836

name: Agnes Young Davidson
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 24 Jul 1836
baptism/christening place: Pangbourn, Berkshire, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Alexander Davidson
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Agnes
mother's birthplace:
mother's age:
indexing project (batch) number: I01371-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1040561
reference number: P63 #501

Citing this Record
"England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N8LD-V79 : accessed 19 Sep 2012), Agnes Young Davidson, 24 Jul 1836; citing reference P63 #501, FHL microfilm 1040561.




sylvia