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My grandfather was German and was born in Selescia, Germany, he came to England when very young with his brother Richard and mother Martha and father Franz Pohl born C.1850. My grandfather was Bruno Karl Pohl b.c.1881. I have found out that there were other children in the family a daughter who went to live with her husband in America and another brother also named Franz. But I do not know anything about Franz except I found out that he may have gone into the German army in the WW1. Can anybody help.

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1891 England Census
about Bruno Pohl Name: Bruno Pohl
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Franz Pohl
Mother's Name: Bertha Pohl
Gender: Male
Where born: Selesia, Germany

Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 119
Folio: 151
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Franz Pohl 41
Bertha Pohl 40
Richard Pohl 11
Bruno Pohl 9

Just in case you don't have it

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Bruno Charles Pohl Name: Bruno Charles Pohl
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Spouse Name: Ethel Pagram
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Aug 1901
Parish: Bow Common St Paul
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Franz Pohl
Spouse Father Name: George Pagram
Register Type: Parish Register

1901 England Census
about Bertha Pohl Name: Bertha Pohl
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Franz Pohl
Gender: Female
Where born: Germany

Civil parish: St Pancras
Ecclesiastical parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St Pancras
Sub-registration district: Somers Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 80
Piece: 145
Folio: 11
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Franz Pohl 51
Bertha Pohl 50

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UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Name: Franz Pohl
Birth Date: abt 1881
Age: 45
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 14 Oct 1926
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Plymouth
Ship Name: Rajputana
Search Ship Database: View the 'Rajputana' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Peninsular & Orient Steam Navigation Company
Official Number: 149361

German subject............occupation Engineer

Travelling with him............

Else Pohl 42
Guenther Pohl 14
Hans Pohl 8

Destination address:
c/o Siemens-Schuckert
Kingsway Corner Bldgs
109 Kingsway
London

1911 England Census
about Bertha Pohl Name: Bertha Pohl
Age in 1911: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation to Head: Mother
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Resident, Germany
Civil parish: Chislehurst
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address: 26 Sussex Road, Sidcup, Kent
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 30
Estimated Marriage Year: 1881
Registration district: Bromley
Registration District Number: 42
Sub-registration district: Chislehurst
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 254
Piece: 3709
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Pohl 31
Ethel Mary Pohl 27
Leslie Richard Pohl 3
Bertha Pohl 60

Thank you for your help, but I was wondering about Bruno's brother Franz who as far as I know never came to England, but did go to America to see his sister. Is there any way of finding out about German citizens?
Veronica

1881 England Census

Name: Franz Pohl
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Gender: Male
Where born: Selesia, Germany
[Germany]
Civil parish: Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 8 Rowland St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Cabinet Maker
Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Tottenham Court
ED, institution, or vessel: 6b
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 186
Folio: 22
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Willhelm Schneider 34
Caroline Schneider 31
Franz Pohl 31

I can't see anything obvious on Family search which has some German births. unless by any chance he was with his sister in the US for one of the census there?

Veronica - do you have any idea of the sister's name and who she married?

Also, Ancestry has Hamburg shipping lists - any idea when brother Franz may have been born? My guess would be that he'd be a fair bit older if they left him in Germany.

On the 1911 it gives that Bertha has been married 38 years, 2 children born 2 living...so there seems to be a discrepancy here?

This one was travelling with his 38 year old father, also called Franz

Hamburger Passagierlisten, 1850-1934 Hamburg Passenger Lists, 1850-1934
Name: Franz Pohl
Departure Date: 17 Jun 1888
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Age Year: 4
Gender: männlich (Male)
Family: Household members
Relationship: Sohn (Son)
Residence: Sauflos, Böhmen

Ship Name: Hammonia
Captain: Hebich
Shipping Line: Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Actien-Gesellschaft
Ship Type: Dampfschiff
Accommodation: Zwischendeck
Ship Flag: Deutschland
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Port of Arrival: New York

Volume: 373-7 I, VIII A 1 Band 061
Page: 1085
Microfilm Roll Number: K_1738