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Clace Phillips c1887 - Hampshire

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TinaMoran

TinaMoran Report 15 Sep 2012 21:41

Hi
Does anyone have any info about a Clace Phillips born in Hampdhire in 1887.
I believe her fathers name was Alexander, and that she had a sister Beatrice. I can fnd her in the 1891 Census aged 3 but nothing after that.
Thank you

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 15 Sep 2012 21:54

According to the baptism she was a boy!

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
Name: Clace Marion Phillips
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 8 May 1887
Christening Place: Cowes, Hampshire, England
Father's Name: Alexander Phillips
Mother's Name: Mary Ann

(Marion was also a boy's name - it was the actor John Wayne's real name)

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 15 Sep 2012 21:54

Can you confirm her forename please. I have never heard of anyone named Clace.

Where exactly (Town or village) was she shown to be living in the1891 census on which you found her?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 15 Sep 2012 21:56

Although the birth record contradicts and seems more feasible:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Clara Marion Phillips
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1887
Registration district: Isle of Wight
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 607

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 15 Sep 2012 21:57

Hi possible

1891 Census Household RecordHousehold Information
Address Middle Road
Parish Lymington
District Lymington, Lymington
Administrative County Hampshire

Householder 1
Name Mary A Phillips
Age 45
Estimated Year of Birth 1846
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Occupation
Birth Place Lymington
Birth County Hampshire

Householder 2
Name Beatrice Phillips
Age 13
Estimated Year of Birth 1878
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Domestic Assistant
Birth Place Cowes
Birth County Isle Of Wight

Householder 3
Name Edgar Phillips
Age 10
Estimated Year of Birth 1881
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place ?
Birth County

Householder 4
Name William Phillips
Age 8
Estimated Year of Birth 1883
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place ?
Birth County

Householder 5
Name Theresa Phillips
Age 7
Estimated Year of Birth 1884
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Scholar
Birth Place ?
Birth County

Householder 6
Name Clace Phillips
Age 3
Estimated Year of Birth 1888
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Occupation Juvenile
Birth Place ?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 15 Sep 2012 21:59

Possibly with her grandad in 1901:

SHEPARD, William Head Widower M 80 1821 Cabinet Maker & Furn Broker Lymington, Hampshire
BOLLORD, Briscella Daughter Married F 45 1856 Housekeeper Lymington, Hampshire
PHILLIPS, Clara M Grand Daughter Single F 13 1888 Cowes, Isle of Wight

Piece: 1034 Folio: 92 Page: 21
Registration District: Lymington
Civil Parish: Lymington

Address: St Thomas Street, Lymington County: Hampshire

Andrew

Andrew Report 15 Sep 2012 22:07

Ancestry have managed to combine two households and give all the Philpis the wrong surnmae

1891 England Census
about Mary B Peele
Name: Mary B Peele
Age: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Lymington
Ecclesiastical parish: Lymington
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Lymington
Sub-registration district: Lymington
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 898
Folio: 8
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Mary B Peele 61
William Peele 26
Mary A Peele 45
Beatrice Peele 13
Edgar Peele 10
William Peele 8
Thresa Peele 7
Clace Peele 3




Andy

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Sep 2012 22:16

Name: PHILLIPS, Clace Marian
Mother's Maiden name or other relevant surname(s):
SHEPARD
Year of birth: 1887

(from below link)

http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/bmd/startbmd.htm

Chris :)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 15 Sep 2012 22:21

That's good Chris - ties in with that 1901 census.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Sep 2012 22:33

1911
WETHERELL, William Norman Head Married M 32 1879 Licensed Victuller Sussex Worthing
WETHERELL, Mabel Shepard Wife Married F 28 1883 Assisting In Business I of W Cowes
WETHERELL, Mabel Daughter F 3 1908 I of W Newport
WETHERELL, Cora Clace Daughter F 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 I of W Newport
PHILLIPS, Edgar Walter Brother In Law Single M 31 1880 Seaman I of W Cowes
PHILLIPS, Clace Marion Sister In Law Single F 23 1888 Mothers Help I of W Cowes
RG number: RG14
Piece: 5700
Reference: RG14PN5700 RG78PN259 RD93 SD2 ED3 SN73
Registration District: Isle of Wight
Sub District: Newport
Enumeration District: 3
Parish: Newport
Address: 109 Carisbrooke Road Newport I W
County: Hampshire


1907 WETHERELL William Norman PHILLIPS Mabel Shepard St Thomas, Newport

Chris :)

TinaMoran

TinaMoran Report 15 Sep 2012 22:38

Wow guys your all amazing!
So quick :-)
Thank you.
Ill continue looking.
She was my great grandmother.
Her husband Thomas Oliver died in India where they all lived, when he died her and my grandmother were sent back to the UK penniless.
My grandmother always mentioned the workhouse and her being in a childrens home for a few years.
Any ideas where I could find that info?
Thansk
again.
Tina
:-)

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Sep 2012 22:53

Marriages Sep 1923 (>99%)
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Oliver Thomas R Phillips Portsmouth 2b 1272
Phillips Clace M Oliver Portsmouth 2b 1272

Death
OLIVER, Thomas R
Station : Muttra
Country: Indian Subcontinent
Year: 1933
Page: 66
Age at death: 46
Record source: GRO Army Death Indices (1881 to 1955)

Chris :)