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5 Sep 2012 11:29 |
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Hi Gins,
Are so Penelope was Ann's sister (Charles1st wife) so annie was Ann's neice. Mystery solved.
all the best
Wendy :-D :-D :-D
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Nottsgirl
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5 Sep 2012 11:26 |
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Hi All
Thank you all so so much you found her on all the census and who her parents were I can tell my fined in Egypt he will be so pleased.
Again a Big thank you :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
all the Best
Wendy
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5 Sep 2012 11:24 |
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1851 England Census about Pimbage Scattergood Name: Pimbage Scattergood [Penelope Scattergood] Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Scattergood Mother's Name: Martha Scattergood Gender: F (Female) Where born: Bramcote, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Bramcote County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Shardlow Sub-registration district: Stapleford ED, institution, or vessel: 5a Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 31 Piece: 2141 Folio: 119 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Scattergood 46 Martha Scattergood 44 Sarah Scattergood 17 Pimbage Scattergood 15 Mary Scattergood 13 Jane Scattergood 10 Martha Scattergood 7 John Scattergood 4 Ann Scattergood 1 Elizabeth Scattergood 4 Mo Cant see a marriage for Pen*???
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5 Sep 2012 11:19 |
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hi his looks like her in 1891
1891 Census Household RecordHousehold Information Address Mourepos House, Brookhill Road Parish Stapleford District Shardlow, Stapleford Administrative County Derbyshire
Householder 1 Name Charles Mettam Age 41 Estimated Year of Birth 1850 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Engine Driver Birth Place Whittington Birth County Derbyshire
Householder 2 Name Ann Mettam Age 41 Estimated Year of Birth 1850 Relationship to Head of Household Wife Occupation Birth Place Bramcote Birth County Nottinghamshire
Householder 3 Name Annie Gascoyne Age 14 Estimated Year of Birth 1877 Relationship to Head of Household Niece Occupation Scholar Birth Place Nottingham Birth County
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5 Sep 2012 11:17 |
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Her parents in 1871
1871 England Census about Ruglope Gascoyne Name: Ruglope Gascoyne [Penelope Gascoyne] Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Gascoyne Gender: Female Where born: Bromcole, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: St Mary Town: Nottingham County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Nottingham Sub-registration district: St Ann ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 30 Piece: 3514 Folio: 6 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age John Gascoyne 40 <<<<Labourer Ruglope Gascoyne 32 <<Wife Thomas Gascoyne 1 <<Son Richard Rynells 30 <<<<Visitor
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KathleenBell
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5 Sep 2012 11:16 |
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This would be Penelope in the 1871 census (before Annie was born):-
1871 census transcription details for: York Street Salmon Lane Warren Place, St Mary, Nottingham
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 3514 Folio: 6 Page: 6 Reg. District: Nottingham Sub District: St Ann Parish: St Mary Enum. District: 6 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Nottingham
Address: York Street Salmon Lane Warren Place, St Mary, Nottingham County: Nottinghamshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
GASCOYNE, John Head M 40 1831 Leicestershire GASCOYNE, Penelope Wife F 32 1839 Nottinghamshire GASCOYNE, Thomas Son M 1 1870 Nottinghamshire RYNELLS, Richard Visitor M 30 1841 Lincolnshire
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Nottsgirl
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5 Sep 2012 11:16 |
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Hi Kath,
Thank you I'll look for Penelope's marriage now.
Wendy
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Nottsgirl
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5 Sep 2012 11:14 |
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Told you i coundn'y keep up.
Wow Gins you found her on 1881 census must be her. Kath she could be his niece or his first wife Ann's niece never thought of that.
You are all brill. What would I do without you
Wendy :-D :-D
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KathleenBell
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5 Sep 2012 11:14 |
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Thomas and Annie are son-in-law and daughter-in-law (stepson and step-daugher) so Penelope would be their mother.
Kath. x
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Nottsgirl
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5 Sep 2012 11:11 |
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Hi Gins,
Thank you can you look at the image please and see what the relationship's are.
Wendy.
P.s Please forgive me if I cannot keep up with you all.
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5 Sep 2012 11:10 |
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1881 England Census Name: Ann Eth. Gascorgin Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Daughter in Law Gender: Female Where born: Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Nottingham St Mary County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Street Address: 7 Warden Place Registration district: Nottingham Sub-registration district: St Ann ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3353 Folio: 54 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age Samuel C. Flendin 50 <Head Penelope Flendin 41 <<<Wife Thomas Gascorgin 11 <<Son inlaw Ann Eth. Gascorgin 4
Son/daught inlaw mean 'step' children
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KathleenBell
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5 Sep 2012 11:09 |
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Was Annie his niece? There is this one in 1891 census:-
1891 census transcription details for: Mourepos House, Brookhill Road, Stapleford
National Archive Reference: RG number: RG12 Piece: 2725 Folio: 113 Page: 22 Reg. District: Shardlow Sub District: Stapleford Parish: Stapleford Enum. District: 23 Ecclesiastical District: Stapleford City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Mourepos House, Brookhill Road, Stapleford County: Derbyshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
METTAM, Charles Head Married M 41 1850 Engine Driver Whittington, Derbyshire METTAM, Ann Wife Married F 41 1850 Bramcote, Nottinghamshire GASCOYNE, Annie Niece Single F 14 1877 Scholar Nottingham<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Nottsgirl
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5 Sep 2012 11:08 |
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Hi Kath and Polly,
Yes that the one I've got the 1911 census as its free on Ancestry until November but cannot find Annie on another census.
Wendy
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5 Sep 2012 11:08 |
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1901 England Census about Annie E Mettam Name: Annie E Mettam Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Charles Mettam Gender: Female Where born: Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Stapleford Ecclesiastical parish: St Helen County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Shardlow Sub-registration district: Stapleford ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 133 Piece: 3211 Folio: 75 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age Charles Mettam 51 Annie E Mettam 24 Annie E Mettam Gascoyn 43
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Nottsgirl
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5 Sep 2012 11:06 |
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sorry we crossed post both typing at the same time.
Wendy :-D
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PollyPoppet
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5 Sep 2012 11:05 |
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1911 Census Household RecordHousehold information Address 62 Brookhill Road Stapleford Nottinghamshire Parish Stapleford Town Stapleford Nottinghamshire Type of Building Dwelling House Number of Rooms 6 Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN20846 RG78PN1244 RD434 SD4 ED25 SN270 Administrative County Derbyshire Registration District Shardlow Registration Sub District Stapleford Enumeration District 25
Householder 1 Name Charles Mettam Relationship to Head of Household Head Condition / Years Married Married / 10 Years Total Children Born Alive 3 Children Still Living 3 Gender M Age 61 Estimated Year of Birth 1850 Occupation Railway Engine Driver Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Whittington Derbyshire
Householder 2 Name Annie Elizabeth Mettam Relationship to Head of Household Wife Condition / Years Married Married Gender F Age 34 Estimated Year of Birth 1877 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Nottingham
Householder 3 Name Annie Mmettam Gascoine Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Condition / Years Married Single Gender F Age 10 Estimated Year of Birth 1901 Occupation School Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Stapleford Nottingham
Householder 4 Name Benjamin Gascoine Relationship to Head of Household Son Condition / Years Married Single Gender M Age 8 Estimated Year of Birth 1903 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Stapleford Nottingham
Householder 5 Name Harriet Emily Gascoine Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Condition / Years Married Single Gender F Age 7 Estimated Year of Birth 1904 Occupation Juvenile Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Stapleford Nottingham
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Nottsgirl
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5 Sep 2012 11:05 |
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No it not the right one, our Charles was born 1850 Derbyshire Annie was his second wife and was 27yrs older than her. 1911 they are living in Stapleford Nottingham.
Wendy :-)
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KathleenBell
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5 Sep 2012 11:05 |
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Is this the family in 1911:-
1911 census transcription details for: 62 Brookhill Road Stapleford Nottinghamshire
National Archive Reference: RG14PN20846 RG78PN1244 RD434 SD4 ED25 SN270 Reg. District: Shardlow Sub District: Stapleford Parish: Stapleford Enum. District: 25
Address: 62 Brookhill Road Stapleford Nottinghamshire County: Derbyshire
Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
METTAM, Charles Head Married 10 years M 61 1850 Railway Engine Driver Whittington Derbyshire METTAM, Annie Elizabeth Wife Married F 34 1877 Nottingham GASCOINE, Annie Mmettam Daughter Single F 10 1901 School Stapleford Nottingham GASCOINE, Benjamin Son Single M 8 1903 Stapleford Nottingham GASCOINE, Harriet Emily Daughter Single F 7 1904 Stapleford Nottingham
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KathleenBell
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5 Sep 2012 11:01 |
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Ahhh.... the marriage record has his name as Mettam:-
Name: METTAM, Charles Registration district: Nottingham County: Nottinghamshire Year of registration: 1900 Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912 Volume no: 7B Page no: 636
MarriageFinder: Charles Mettam married one of the following people:
GASCOINE, Annie Elizabeth<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< PARKER, Lizzie SHEARD, John Albert
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Nottsgirl
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5 Sep 2012 10:54 |
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The one I'm looking for was Annie Elizabeth Gascoine Dec qr 1876 Nottingham. I'm doing this for someone who lives in Egypt. she married his great-uncle Charles Mattam in 1900.
Wendy
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