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My great Grandfather, Reuben Hughes, is proving to be a bit of an enigma. We can't find any mention of him prior to the 1871 census, where he was lodging with his future in-laws in Madeley, Shrops. His date of birth depends on which census viewed (1845 - 1852!), but we think it's around the latter half of 1851. Apparently born in Dudley, Staffs, he married Isabella York in 1873 (age on certificate 21) and went to live in Pendlebury, Salford, Lancs, where he was a coal miner. He died in 1895, age given as 44. His father is Thomas Hughes and his mother may be Mary, but not certain on that.

If anyone can shed any light on Reuben, it will be very much appreciated, as we can't get any further back on this branch of the tree.

Thanks,

Lynne

What was fathers occupation from marriage cert, please

Andy

Wrong father, but in view of everything else:

1861 England Census

Name: Reuben Hughes coal miner
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Walter Hughes
Mother's Name: Ann Hughes
Gender: Male
Where born: Willenhall, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: St Martin
County/Island: Shropshire

Registration district: Oswestry
Sub-registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 3

Walter Hughes 49
Ann Hughes 50
Harriott Hughes 23
Richard Hughes 20
Reuben Hughes 14
Sarah Hughes 11
John Hughes 8
Walter Roberts 3
Mary Roberts 25

I think I've found Jan's 1861 Reuben married to an Alice in the 1881 ....

*Father's occupation from marriage certificate: Thomas Hughes - miner

*I have come across that 1861 census entry several times, but it's not 'our' Reuben.

Putting together several things, we are concluding Reuben may have been born June - Nov 1851.

*Marriage certificate states date as 1st June 1873, bachelor aged 21. Wife - Isabella York.
Death certificate dated Nov 1895 age 44yrs.

Thanks for replies.

I'm stumped too. I don't suppose the witnesses to the marriage hold any clues?
Jan

I did say Reuben is proving to be a bit of an enigma! ;-)

Marriage witnesses are the brides' maternal aunt Mary Elizabeth Corfield and someone called Daniel Jones. The common surnames don't help the search!

Lynne

Reuben Hughes
England and Wales Census, 1861
birth: 1847 ...,? Staffordshire
census: 1861 St Martins,? Shropshire,? England


name: Reuben Hughes
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Male
age: 14
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: ..., Staffordshire
record type: Household
registration district: Oswestry
sub-district: 4 St Martin
civil parish: St Martins
county: Shropshire

Ruben Hughes
England and Wales Census, 1871
birth: 1851 Tipton,? Staffordshire
residence: 1871 Madeley,? Shropshire,? England


name: Ruben Hughes
event: Census
event date: 1871
gender: Male
age: 20
relationship to head of household: Lodger
birthplace: Tipton, Staffordshire
record type: Household
registration district: Madeley
sub-district: Madeley
event parish: Madeley
county: Shropshire

Reuben Hughes
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: Willen Hall South,? Staffordshire
census: 1911 Stoke Rural,? Bucknall Stoke On Trent,? Staffordshire,? England


name: Reuben Hughes
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 64
birthplace: Willen Hall South, Staffordshire
record type: Household
registration district: Stoke Upon Trent
sub-district: Stoke Rural
parish: Stoke Rural
county: Staffordshire

Thomas Daniel Hughes
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 06 Aug 1876 MADELEY,? SHROPSHIRE,? ENGLAND
parents: Reuben Hughes,? Isabella


name: Thomas Daniel Hughes
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 06 Aug 1876
baptism/christening place: MADELEY, SHROPSHIRE, ENGLAND
father's name: Reuben Hughes
mother's name: Isabella
indexing project (batch) number: C03379-6
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 992319

Mary Ann Margaret Hughes
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 16 Feb 1874 MADELEY,? SHROPSHIRE,? ENGLAND
parents: Reuben Hughes,? Isabella


name: Mary Ann Margaret Hughes
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 16 Feb 1874
baptism/christening place: MADELEY, SHROPSHIRE, ENGLAND
father's name: Reuben Hughes
mother's name: Isabella
indexing project (batch) number: C03379-6
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 992319

???

Ruben Hughes
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 24 Mar 1844 St. Peter's,? Wolverhampton,? Stafford,? England
residence: Wolverhampton,? Stafford,? England
parents: Thomas Hughes,? Ann


name: Ruben Hughes
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 24 Mar 1844
baptism/christening place: St. Peter's, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
father's name: Thomas Hughes
mother's name: Ann
indexing project (batch) number: I02571-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1040895

I already have Reuben tracked from:

1871 census in Madeley lodging with future in-laws.
1873 marriage to Isabella York.
1881 in Pendlebury, Lancs with wife, son (my grandfather) and younger daughter.
1891 census with wife and younger daughter.
1895 death.

It's prior to 1871 that I can find no mention of him whatsoever.