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Stupid as it may seem - I am unable to establish the name (or any details) of my grandmother who mostly lived in WestHam/Forest Gate, East London/Essex. Her husband (my grandfather) was Charles Henry Collins who died (took his own life) on 23rd December, 1943 at the Recreation Ground, Cranbrook Road, Barkingside, Essex. So far, I have managed to contact two of my cousins - both of whom (also like me) cannot remember her name - but one kindly provided me with Charles's Death Certificate. Her daughter (my dear mother) was Gladys Irene Blood (nee Collins) who died on 6th December, 1986 at Basildon Hospital, Basildon, Essex.

I would be most grateful if anybody has any leads/information on this.

:-( :-S

how old was Charles when he died so we have some idea of his date of birth

how about this one?

Charles Henry Collins
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 08 Jan 1896 Holy Trinity,? Leytonstone,? Essex,? England
residence: Leytonstone,? Essex,? England
parents: William Henry Collins,? Rosette


name: Charles Henry Collins
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 08 Jan 1896
baptism/christening place: Holy Trinity, Leytonstone, Essex, England
father's name: William Henry Collins
mother's name: Rosette
indexing project (batch) number: I02411-0
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1564160

???

Charles Henry Collins
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: White Notley
census: 1911 White Notley,? Baker Grocer &?Etc White Notley,? Essex,? England


name: Charles Henry Collins
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 27
birthplace: White Notley
record type: Household
registration district: Braintree
sub-district: Braintree
parish: White Notley
county: Essex

???

Charles H Collins
England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: Fairsted,? Essex
census: 1891 England


name: Charles H Collins
event: Census
event date: 1891
gender: Male
age: 0
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Fairsted, Essex
record type: Household
registration district: Braintree
sub-district: Witham
ecclesiastical parish: Fairsted
civil parish: Fairsted
county: Essex

Unless I am misunderstanding the query? you need your mother's birth certificate for her mother's maiden name.

Charles H Collins
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth: Fairstead,? Essex
census: 1911 Little Waltham,? Little Waltham Chelmsford,? Essex,? England


name: Charles H Collins
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Male
age: 20
birthplace: Fairstead, Essex
record type: Household
registration district: Chelmsford
sub-district: Great Waltham
parish: Little Waltham
county: Essex

Charles H Collins
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1897 St James St,? London
census: 31 Mar 1901 East Ham,? Essex,? England



Charles H Collins
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1893 Edmonton,? Middlesex
census: 31 Mar 1901 Cann Hall,? Essex,? England



Charles H Collins
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth: 1894 Clapton,? London
census: 31 Mar 1901 Low Leyton,? Essex,? England

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966
about Charles Henry Collins
Name: Charles Henry Collins
Probate Date: 9 Nov 1944
Death Date: 23 Dec 1943
Death Place: Essex, England
Registry: Llandudno to Charles Henry Collins Civil Servant £450 18s

Name: Gladys Irene Blood
Birth Date: 28 Sep 1909

Possible??


1911 census transcription details for: 24 Upton Park Road Forest Gate
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN9375 RG78PN506 RD188 SD2 ED2 SN98
Reg. District: West Ham
Sub District: Forest Gate
Parish: West Ham
Enum. District: 2
Address: 24 Upton Park Road Forest Gate
County: Essex
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
COLLINS, Charles Head Married M 40 1871 Warehouseman Biscuit Factory London Fulham Middx
COLLINS, Florence Wife Married
16 years F 37 1874 London Kennington S
COLLINS, Mabel Daughter Single F 15 1896 Packer Biscuit Factory London Bermondsey S E
COLLINS, Gertrude Daughter F 13 1898 London Bermondsey S E
COLLINS, Charles Son M 11 1900 London Bermondsey S E
COLLINS, Willie Son M 8 1903 West Ham Essex
COLLINS, Percy Son M 6 1905 West Ham Essex
>>COLLINS, Irene Daughter F 1 1910 West Ham Essex


Edit No sorry, this one has E as a middle initial in 1901.

you may have struck gold there Gwyn - Alan's surname is Blood!!!

I've asked Alan to return to this thread

I was just about to post the same census as Alviegal has above. It seems the most likely one - and I think this is their marriage.

Maybe he gave his middle name as 'enry, hence the E.


Name: Charles Henry Collins
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Spouse Name: Florence Eliza Barrett
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1894
Parish: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Charles Janny Collins
Spouse Father Name: William Barrett
Register Type: Parish Register

I believe Gladys only became a Blood after marriage.

Name: Gladys Irene Collins
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1909
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 47 (click to see others on page)

Alan, Can you tell us the names of any of your mother's brothers and sisters please?

Your cousins would know at least one of them.

No, hang on. Here is their marriage.


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Charles Henry Collins
Name: Charles Henry Collins, dispenser
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Spouse Name: Florence Eliza Barrett
Spouse Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1894
Parish: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Charles Janny Collins (think Janny is James) farmer
Spouse Father Name: William Barrett, cab driver
Register Type: Parish Register


G E Collins and M J? Stratton were witnesses.


Well, only 10 minutes after you Christina! Was so busy looking <3

1901 census transcription details for: 24, Westlake Road, Rotherhithe
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 400
Folio: 81
Page: 30
Reg. District: St Olave Southwark
Sub District: Rotherhithe
Parish: Rotherhithe
Enum. District: 23
Ecclesiastical District: St Katherine's
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 24, Westlake Road, Rotherhithe
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
COLLINS, Charles E Head Married M 30 1871 Drug Warehouseman
Walworth, London
COLLINS, Florence E Wife Married F 26 1875
Westminster, London
COLLINS, Mabel Daughter F 5 1896
Bermondsey, London
COLLINS, Gertrude Daughter F 3 1898
Bermondsey, London
COLLINS, Charles Son M 0 (10 MOS) 1901
Bermondsey, London

Charles Henry's probate listing shows his address as 2 Tollesbury Gardens, Ilford , Essex.

One would suspect that the other named Charles Henry was his son. do you think?

Does Charles d.cert or your mum's m.cert list his occupation?

I think you need to get your mum's b.cert to ascertain her parent's:

Births Dec 1909 (>99%)
Collins Gladys Irene W. Ham 4a 47

NB I read his 1911 p.o.b as Fulham