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Mark

Mark Report 28 Aug 2012 19:52

Evening

I have found 6 possible birth for my relation. My problem is that some of the births are registered Ormskirk and some say Southport. Now i know from common knowledge of the area that some Southport births are registered as Ormskirk but need to clarify which are mine. I cannot currently afford 6 certs.

Thanks

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Edward Hartill married Martha Hodge 1931

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 28 Aug 2012 19:57

Mark - which one are you tracing (or both)? Or is it their children?

If you know when/where they died then the death record may give a date to help narrow it down.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 28 Aug 2012 20:02

Or is it a child of this marriage that you're looking for? FreeBMD has 6 Hartill children with mother's maiden name Hodge born between 1931-1944. The first 2 are registered in Ormskirk, next 4 in Southport.

Christina(Lancashire)

Christina(Lancashire) Report 28 Aug 2012 20:02

Ormskirk was the registration district for Southport pre June 1934, so quite possible for them all to be the same family.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 28 Aug 2012 20:09

Yes, I'm sure they're all the same family with the 2 year gap between them except for the last one.

Mark

Mark Report 28 Aug 2012 20:12

so you think 1931-1938

Yes the children of this marriage - i spend the afternoon in the library looking at the local newspapers bmd section

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 28 Aug 2012 20:13

The spacing of the births and they fact there's no other Hartill/Hodge marriage would suggest they are the same family.

I would think most of the family are still alive so tracking them down would be cheaper than buying 6 certs.

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 28 Aug 2012 20:16

The first Joan died:

Deaths Sep 1934
Hartill Joan E 0 Southport 8b 733

Rose

Mark

Mark Report 28 Aug 2012 20:21

Thank you is the E a middle initial sorry

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 28 Aug 2012 20:24

Found a death for this Alan too:

Births Jun 1944
Hartill Alan Hodge Southport 8b 1439

Rose

Mark

Mark Report 28 Aug 2012 20:25

Is Alan a twin to surviving Joan

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 28 Aug 2012 20:32

Not seeing any twins. They are all born different years.

E is the middle initial.

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 28 Aug 2012 20:33

Looks like the surviving sons are still in the Southport area. Possible phone number on BT.com.

Rose

Mark

Mark Report 28 Aug 2012 20:37

found marriage and daughter for Edward

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 28 Aug 2012 20:57

Haven't you checked FreeBMD, Mark? There's 6 years between Joan and Alan.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Mark

Mark Report 28 Aug 2012 21:03

Checked and corrected - although i have no dates for Martha Hodge so no idea how old she would of been after last child born..

Mark

Mark Report 28 Aug 2012 21:05

Only entry found -

Martha Hartill 1908 Sep 1987 Sefton North Merseyside

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 28 Aug 2012 21:10

So born 1908, last child born 1944, she would have been 36.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 28 Aug 2012 21:14

I found the following on a Public Family Tree on ancestry.

HOWEVER, all such information MUST be taken with a pinch of salt, and treated with great care .................. many people who have public trees on ancestry merely copy information from elsewhere, and do not check for authenticity.

The information can give you a guideline, but MUST be checked before adding to your tree ......... and of course, you know that ideally means buying certificates!


Edward Hartill
Birth Jul 1906 in Lancashire, United Kingdom
Death Mar 1948 in Southport, Lancashire, England


1931 Mar
Age: 24
Marriage
Ormskirk, Lancashire


1948 Mar
Age: 41
Death
Southport, Lancashire, England


Parents

Father not known
Mother not known


Spouse & Children

Martha Hodge 1908 – 1987

1 child only shown, and name and birth date kept Private




Martha Hodge
Birth 3 May 1908 in Lancashire, United Kingdom
Death Sep 1987 in Sefton North, Merseyside, England






sylvia

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 28 Aug 2012 21:18

I wonder if this is her?

1911 England Census
about Martha Hodge Name: Martha Hodge
Age in 1911: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1908
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: North Meols, Lancashire
Civil parish: Southport
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: Mr High Park Rd Southport
Registration district: Ormskirk
Registration District Number: 457
Sub-registration district: North Meols
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Piece: 22914
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Hodge 24 , railway man, van man, parcels delivery, born Birkdale, Lancs.
Mary Emily Hodge 28 , born Shrewsbury, Shropshire
Martha Hodge 3 , born North Meols, Southport
John Hodge 3/12 , born"

Parents married 3 years, 2 children, both living.