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Marriage of Eliza Evans and also her sister Ada

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ethelberta

ethelberta Report 31 Aug 2012 17:14

Thank you so so much for your help.

Very grateful to you.

mgnv

mgnv Report 31 Aug 2012 17:03

Well then. it gets back to your original question - where are the girls, and which one survived to 1911.

My guess is this is Ada:

Deaths Jun 1906 (>99%)
Evans Ada Frances 19 Atcham 6a 422

so Eliza's vanished for 1901/1911.

ethelberta

ethelberta Report 31 Aug 2012 11:58

I will go along with your answers.
It makes sense and follows.
Thank you so much for your efforts very grate ful to you

mgnv

mgnv Report 30 Aug 2012 21:29

So what abt our Eddie - I think this is him, and Herb moved nearby:

1911 England Census
Civil parish: Monks Coppenhall
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: 303 West St Crewe Cheshire
Registration district: Nantwich
Registration District Number: 449
Sub-registration district: Crewe [#1]
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Piece: 21787 [Household schedule number: 50]
Edward Evans 40 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Head M Gatekeeper
Edith Evans 39 Oswestry, Shropshire, England Wife M
Florrence Evans 17 Crewe, Cheshire, England Daughter S
Albert Edward Evans 11 Crewe, Cheshire, England Son
Violet Evans 7 Crewe, Cheshire, England Daughter
Sarah Jones 63 Wellington, Shropshire, England Mother-in-law W
Charles Pugh 24 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Boarder S Railway Clerk
[Years Married: 17; 4 live births, 3 still living]
Starting at 14 Evans Street, go to the S end of the street, jog SE on Ellis 100m, then SW on Ford Lane 500m and you're on West St.

Marriages Sep 1893 (>99%)
Evans Edward Nantwich 8a 561
Jones Edith Ellen Nantwich 8a 561
Linnell Sarah Ann Nantwich 8a 561
Tegarty William Nantwich 8a 561


1901 England Census
County:Cheshire
Parish:MONKS COPPENHALL
Street:163 UNDERWOOD LANE
Occupation:FOREMAN STATIONARY ENGINE
Ecclesiastical District:ST MICHAELS COPPENHALL
Municipal Ward:NORTH
Parliamentary Borough:CREWE
Registration District:NANTWICH
Sub District:CREWE
Enumeration District:41
Archive Reference:RG13 Piece Number:3359 Folio:95 Page:23

EDWARD EVANS 1873 28 SHREWSBURY, Salop Head M GATEKEEPER L & N W RLWY
EDITH E EVANS 1873 28 OSWESTRY, Salop Wife M
FLORENCE A EVANS 1894 7 CREWE, Chester Daur
ALBERT E EVANS 1900 1 CREWE, Chester Son
ANDREW WHITFIELD 1881 20 ALVESTON, Staffs Boarder S FOREMAN STATIONARY ENGINE

===========================


1901 England Census
County:Lancashire
Parish:BROUGHTON
Street:132 LOWER BROUGHTON ROAD
Ecclesiastical District:LOWER BROUGHTON THE ASCENSION
Municipal Ward:GROSVENOR
Parliamentary Borough:SALFORD NORTH
Registration District:SALFORD
Sub District:BROUGHTON
Enumeration District:10
Archive Reference:RG13 Piece Number:3723 Folio:70 Page:31

GEORGE EATON 1839 62 Montgomery Head M TAILOR
ELIZA EATON 1851 50 SHREWSBURY, Shropshire Wife M
GEORGE F EATON 1875 26 MILES PLATTING, Lancs Son S WAREHOUSEMAN (LACE TRADE)
CHARLES W EATON 1880 21 BROUGHTON, Lancs Son S STOCK KEEPER (DRESS GOODS)
FLORRIE G EATON 1883 18 BROUGHTON, Lancs Daur S LADY CLERK (WAREHOUSE)
HUGH H EATON 1888 13 BROUGHTON, Lancs Son OFFICE BOY (SHIPPING HOUSE)
THOMAS H ROWLANDS 1879 22 BROUGHTON, Lancs Boarder S WIRE DRAWER

ethelberta

ethelberta Report 30 Aug 2012 21:07

Thank you very much.

Well done.

mgnv

mgnv Report 30 Aug 2012 20:52

Again, using FreeBMD and http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
These look likely:

Shropshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1868
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
EVANS William S STEENTON Eliza St George, Shrewsbury Shrewsbury C-S50/2/264

Deaths Dec 1914 (>99%)
Evans Eliza 69 Atcham 6a 788

Deaths Mar 1920 (>99%)
EVANS William S 75 Atcham 6a 841



1911 England Census
Civil parish: Monks Coppenhall
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street Address: 14 Evans Street Coppenhall Crewe Cheshire
Registration district: Nantwich
Registration District Number: 449
Sub-registration district: Crewe
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Piece: 21781 [Schedule # 174]
Henry Evans 37 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Head M Steel Caster
Agnes Matilda Evans 31 Newtown, Montgomeryshire, Wales Wife M
William Henry Evans 7 Crewe, Cheshire, England Son School
Wilfred Evans 2 Crewe, Cheshire, England Son
[Years Married: 8; 4 live births, 2 still living]


Marriages Dec 1902 (>99%)
Evans Frank Newtown 11b 325
Evans Henry Newtown 11b 325
Griffiths Martha Elizabeth Newtown 11b 325
Roberts Agnes Matilda Newtown 11b 325

North Wales Marriage indexes for the years: 1902
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
EVANS Frank Match Possible Spouses Llanllwchaiarn Powys - Llandrindod Wells CN08/2/183
EVANS Henry Match Possible Spouses Llanllwchaiarn Powys - Llandrindod Wells CN08/2/183
[Unfortunately, the GRO and church rego pages are aligned this quarter]
GRIFFITHS Martha Elizabeth Match Possible Spouses Llanllwchaiarn Powys - Llandrindod Wells CN08/2/183
ROBERTS Agnes Matilda Match Possible Spouses Llanllwchaiarn Powys - Llandrindod Wells CN08/2/183



1911 England Census
Civil parish: Mortlake
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: 14 Stanley Road, East Sheen Mortlake, Surrey
Registration district: Richmond
Registration District Number: 41
Sub-registration district: Mortlake
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Piece: 3616 [Household schedule number: 82]
George Evans 31 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Head M Compositor
Ellen Clara Evans 30 Waltham Cross, Essex, England Wife M
Walter George Evans 8/12 East Sheen, Surrey, England Son
[Years Married: 3; 1 live births, 1 still living]


Marriages Sep 1907 (>99%)
EVANS George Richmond, S. 2a 1047
HARVEY Ellen Clara Richmond. S. 2a 1047
IRELAND William Richmond, S. 2a 1047
SEARS Stephen John Malling 2a 1047
SUCKLING Gertrude Richmmond, S. 2a 1047

Births Sep 1910 (>99%)
EVANS Walter G Richmond, S. 2a 521



1911 England Census
Civil parish: Shrewsbury St Mary
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street Address: 20 Queen St, Shrewsbury
Registration district: Atcham
Registration District Number: 349
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Piece: 16072 [Household schedule number: 290]
Herbert Charles Evans 29 Shrewsbury, Salop, England Head M Carpenter And Joiner
Florrie Gertrude Evans 28 Salford, Lancashire, England Wife M
Hugh Herbert Evans 2 Shelton, St Julian, Shrewsbury Son
[Years Married: 3; 1 live births, 1 still living]


Marriages Dec 1907 (>99%)
BOOTH Thomas Salford 8d 27
EATON Florrie Gertrude Salford 8d 27
EVANS Herbert Charles Salford 8d 27
LEESE Ellen Salford 8d 27

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1907
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
EVANS Herbert C EATON Florrie G Broughton St Clements Salford C39/3/424

mgnv

mgnv Report 30 Aug 2012 20:10

ethelberta - Re: Evans Edward Son 1871 Shrewsbury Living in Weston, Bath (Groom)
In 1901 (Married 1891 to Mary Ann H Clark) Living at Vernon Hse Stables, Weston, Bath
In 1911 living at Knapp Cottage Selsley Near Stroud Gloucestershire

I don't think so - here's why:


Marriages Dec 1891 (>99%)
Clark Mary Ann H Bath 5c 1125
Evans Edward Bath 5c 1125

Bath Marriage indexes for the years: 1891
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
EVANS Edward CLARK Mary Ann Harriet Bath, Weston All Saints (Weston Village) Bath C22/2/411

That Eddie is in Bath 1891
RG12/1940 4 2 EVANS, Edward Bath VIEW VIEW
and our Eddie's at home in 1891



groom's name: Edward Evans
groom's birth date: 1870
groom's age: 21
bride's name: Mary Ann Harriet Clark
bride's birth date: 1869
bride's age: 22
marriage date: 23 Dec 1891
marriage place: Weston, Somerset, England
groom's father's name: John Evans
bride's father's name: John Clark
indexing project (batch) number: I02270-3
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1526764
reference number: Item 16, p206
Source Citation
"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NF9T-389 : accessed 30 Aug 2012), Edward Evans and Mary Ann Harriet Clark, 23 Dec 1891; citing reference Item 16, p206, FHL microfilm 1526764.

I think Bath Eddie's this guy:

1881 England Census
Civil parish: Shrewsbury St Julian
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street Address: 28 Longden Coleham Pt House
Registration district: Atcham
Sub-registration district: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 2651 Folio: 50 Page Number: 10

John Evans 52 Donnington, Shropshire, England Head M Fishmonger
Elizabeth Evans 38 Tenby, Pembrokeshire, Wales Wife M
Mary Evans 13 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Daughter Scholar
Edward Evans 11 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Son Scholar
Thomas Evans Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Son
Maryann Mopsey 13 Scholar
Martha Jones 77 Church Stretton, Shropshire, England Lodger W Wife

Eddie's gone by 1891:

1891 England Census
County:Shropshire
Parish:SHREWSBURY
Street:LONGDEN COLEHAM
City:SHREWSBURY
Ecclesiastical District:HOLY TRINITY
Municipal Ward:STONE
Parliamentary Borough:SHREWSBURY
Registration District:ATCHAM
Sub District:ST MARY
Enumeration District:20
Town:SHREWSBURY
Archive Reference:RG12 Piece Number:2111 Folio:23 Page:6
JOHN EVANS 1829 62 DONNINGTON, SHROPSHIRE HEAD M FISH HAWKER
ELIZTH EVANS 1843 48 TENBY, SOUTH WALES WIFE M
THOMAS EVANS 1881 10 SHREWSBURY, SHROPSHIRE SON SCHOLAR
MARTHA JONES 1804 87 ALL-STRETTON, SHROPSHIRE LODGER W LIVING ON HER OWN MEANS

mgnv

mgnv Report 30 Aug 2012 20:01

1891 England Census
County:Shropshire
Parish:SHREWSBURY
Street:SHELTON LANE
City:SHREWSBURY
Town:BICTON HEATH
Ecclesiastical District:ST JULIANS
House Name:SHELTON COTTAGES
Municipal Ward:WELSH
Parliamentary Borough:OSWESTRY
Registration District:ATCHAM
Sub District:ST CHAD
Enumeration District:8
Archive Reference:RG12 Piece Number:2113 Folio:38 Page:2 -> Folio:39 Page:3

WILLIAM S EVANS 1845 46 SHREWSBURY, Shropshire HEAD M RAILWAY SIGNALMAN
ELIZA EVANS 1846 45 SHREWSBURY, Shropshire WIFE M
EDWARD EVANS 1871 20 SHREWSBURY, Shropshire SON S RAILWAY PORTER
HENRY EVANS 1874 17 SHREWSBURY, Shropshire SON S RAILWAY PORTER
ELIZA EVANS 1878 13 SHREWSBURY, Shropshire DAUGHTER S SCHOLAR
GEORGE EVANS 1880 11 SHREWSBURY, Shropshire SON SCHOLAR
HERBERT C EVANS 1882 9 SHREWSBURY, Shropshire SON SCHOLAR
ADA F EVANS 1887 4 BICTON, Shropshire DAUGHTER
FRANK E DAVIES 1875 16 BICTON, Shropshire COUSIN S BOOK BINDER
FLORRIE G EATON 1883 8 SALFORD, Lancashire NIECE SCHOLAR



1901 England Census
County:Shropshire
Parish:BICTON
Ecclesiastical District:ST JULIAN
House Name:SHELTON
Town:SHELTON
Parliamentary Borough:OSWESTRY OR WESTERN
Registration District:ATCHAM
Sub District:ST CHAD
Enumeration District:7
Archive Reference:RG13 Piece Number:2541 Folio:13 Page:18 -> Folio:14 Page:19

WILLIAM S EVANS 1845 56 SHREWSBURY, Salop Head M RAILWAY SIGNALMAN
ELIZA EVANS 1845 56 SHREWSBURY, Salop Wife M
HERBERT EVANS 1882 19 SHREWSBURY, Salop Son S CARPENTER'S APPRENTICE
ADA F EVANS 1887 14 SHREWSBURY, Salop Daur S
FRANK E DAVIES 1875 26 SHREWSBURY, Salop Cousin S BOOK BINDER

1911 England Census
Civil parish: Bicton
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street Address: No 4 Shelton Cottages, Shelton Nr Shrewsbury
Registration district: Atcham
Registration District Number: 349
Sub-registration district: St Chad
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 113
Piece: 16093 [Schedule # 113]
William Simon Evans 66 St Julians, Shoprshire Head M Railway Porter
Eliza Evans 65 Shrewsbury, Shoprshire Wife M
[Years Married: 42; 11 live births, 5 still living]


ethelberta

ethelberta Report 30 Aug 2012 19:58

1891 Census
William S Evans 1845 Head Shrewsbury
Eliza Evans 1846 Wife Shrewsbury
Edward Evans 1871 Son Shrewsbury
Henry Evans 1874 Shrewsbury
Eliza Evans 1878 Shrewsbury
George Evans 1880 Shrewsbury
Herbert Evans 1882 Shrewsbury
Ada F Evans 1877 Shrewsbury

All living in the same household.

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 30 Aug 2012 18:33

Reposting..can you post the 1891 census because I can't find it

Jude

ethelberta

ethelberta Report 30 Aug 2012 16:20

Thankyou kindly for the info.
That means that my Ada remains a spinster.

mgnv

mgnv Report 30 Aug 2012 08:26

ethelberta - Re: Evans Ada Florence Dghtr 1887 Bicton, Shrewsbury Married Reginald W Davies 1924 Shrewsbury ?????????

I don't think so - here's why:


Marriages Sep 1924 (>99%)
BIRCH Frank L Pye Atcham 6a 1540
Davies Reginald W Evans Atcham 6a 1540
EVANS Ada F Davies Atcham 6a 1540
Pye Nora E Birch Atcham 6a 1540

Using http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/local_bmd
Shropshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1924
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
EVANS Ada F DAVIES Reginald W St Mary, Shrewsbury Shrewsbury C-S70/5/457

groom's name: Reginald Wallace Davies
groom's age:
bride's name: Ada Frances Evans
bride's age:
marriage date: 09 Aug 1924
marriage place: Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
groom's father's name: John Edward Davies
bride's father's name: Joseph Evans
indexing project (batch) number: I02496-6
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1702205
reference number: 229
Source Citation
"England, Marriages, 1538–1973 ," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NN7J-CLV : accessed 30 Aug 2012), Reginald Wallace Davies and Ada Frances Evans, 09 Aug 1924; citing reference 229, FHL microfilm 1702205.


I think this is Reg's Ada:

1911 England Census
Civil parish: Rodington
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street Address: 3 Grove Cottages, Rodington
Registration district: Wellington
Registration District Number: 355
Sub-registration district: Ercall Magna
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 66
Piece: 16288
Joseph Evans 45
Emma Louisa Evans 45
Edith Mabel Evans 15
Joseph Ernest Evans 12
Frederick Henry Evans 10
Ada Frances Evans 7 Roden, Shropshire Daughter

HeyJudeB4Beatles

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 28 Aug 2012 21:17

Can you post the 1891 census?

From 1871 and 1881 there are seven children..guessing Alfred H 1869 died between 1871 and 1881 as you surmise.

Jude

ethelberta

ethelberta Report 28 Aug 2012 16:00

Maddie
In 1911 Census William and Eliza were living alone in Shrewsbury.
The Cunsus says that they had 11 children of which 6 had died

Here is a list of 1881

Children
Evans Albert H Son 1869 Chester
Evans Edward Son 1871 Shrewsbury Living in Weston, Bath (Groom)
In 1901 (Married 1891 to Mary Ann H Clark) Living at Vernon Hse Stables, Weston, Bath
In 1911 living at Knapp Cottage Selsley Near Stroud Gloucestershire
Evans Henry Son 1874 Shrewsbury In 1911 (Married 1903 to Agnes Matilda Roberts) living in 14 Evans Street Crewe
Evans Eliza Dghtr 1878 Shrewsbury
Evans George Son 1880 Shrewsbury In 1911 Living in 14 Stanley Rd, Mortlake, Surrey (Married)
Evans Herbert Son 1882 Shrewsbury In 1911 (Married Florrie Gertrude 1908) Living at 20 Queen St, Shrewsbury
Evans Ada Florence Dghtr 1887 Bicton, Shrewsbury Married Reginald W Davies 1924 Shrewsbury ?????????

Eliza was alive in 1891 Census found her in the end.

No luck with her getting married tho.

Can you possibly trace the other 4 children (presumed deceased)

By deduction Alfred (not listed after 1871)and Eliza (not listed after 1891) must have died

Thank you kindly for looking up for me.

ethelberta

ethelberta Report 28 Aug 2012 14:39

Thank you for your help Maddie, very much appreciated.

The dates tie up, but as u say, probably not her.

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 Aug 2012 13:26

Hi
had a look but not much luck,
only death i can find is this but probably not her
Name: EVANS, Eliza

Registration district: [?] Newport (Shropshire)

County: Shropshire

Year of registration: 1887

Quarter of registration: Jul-Aug-Sep

Age at death:9

Volume no: 6A

Page no: 458

sorry
maddie

ethelberta

ethelberta Report 27 Aug 2012 14:56

Maddie

can you possibly find if one of these Eliza`s was originally an Eliza Evans Please

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Aug 2012 14:45

may not be of any help but this is a list of Eliz's born 1878 +/_ 2 years in shrewsbury
1911
Household CALCOTT, Eliza 1881 30 F Saffron Walden Essex
Household DOWLEY, Eliza 1880 31 F Atcham Shropshire
Institution EBREY, Eliza 1879 32 F Atcham Shropshire
Household GIBBS, Eliza 1877 34 F Atcham Shropshire
Household HUMPHREYS, Eliza Annie 1877 34 F Atcham Shropshire
Household MARTIN, Eliza 1875 36 F Macclesfield Cheshire
Household MERCHANT, Eliza 1880 31 F Atcham Shropshire
Household PURSLOW, Eliza Rosamond 1875 36 F Chorlton Lancashire
Institution ROBERTS, Eliza 1878 33 F Atcham Shropshire
Household ROBERTS, Eliza Selina 1879 32 F Atcham Shropshire
Household SMITH, Eliza 1876 35 F Corwen Merionethshire
Household SMITH, Eliza Ann 1877 34 F Church Stretton Shropshire
Household WAREING, Eliza 1881 30 F Birkenhead Cheshire

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Aug 2012 14:40

sorry, thats true

ethelberta

ethelberta Report 27 Aug 2012 14:29

It could not be either Jump or Lewis as they were both 1888 registrations.
Eliza would have only been 10 years old in 1888.