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Good afternoon all Hope you can help.
My gggdad John bowman scobie or may be skoby? born 1804 son of Francis Skoby and Sharah Boardman bowman? He was first mate in the merchant marine, and set off on a voyage to Mobile? in 1842 . He never retuned to his wife and family leaving them destitute. Lost overboard ? desiese? jumped ship? Can''t find any more info' They all lived in Toxteth but originated in Driffield. I have found 2 ships that may fit in, they are both called George, home port Dundee.
1. captain G Pike, owner Fyfe and co, voyage 1841-1842 lth s. Australia. (this may be Leith) lon nzealand (short for London new Zealand?)

2. captain D Kidd, owner is J Thain. voyage 1841-1842 Dundee -Archangel
I have tried looking for crew lists on national archives but no joy.
Any help appreciated.
Thanks for looking by.
Martin Scobie

John Bowman Scobie
England, Marriages, 1538–1973
spouse: /
child: James Francis Scobie


groom's name: James Francis Scobie
groom's birth date: 1843
groom's age: 26
bride's name: Agnes Anna Daniels
bride's birth date: 1845
bride's age: 24
marriage date: 07 Feb 1869
marriage place: Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England
groom's father's name: John Bowman Scobie
bride's father's name: Thomas Daniels
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M00715-5
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1546120

John Bowman Scobie
England, Marriages, 1538–1973
child: Sarah Ann Scobie


groom's name: John Cassidy
bride's name: Sarah Ann Scobie
marriage date: 17 Jul 1866
marriage place: Liverpool, Lancaster, England
groom's father's name: John Cassidy
bride's father's name: John Bowman Scobie
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M00725-6
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1656682

John Boman Skoby
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
spouse: Ann Eliza
child: Charlotte Kate Skoby


name: Charlotte Kate Skoby
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 27 Dec 1838
baptism/christening place: SAINT PETER,LIVERPOOL,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: John Boman Skoby
mother's name: Ann Eliza
indexing project (batch) number: P02027-4
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 93880, 93881, 93882

John Bowman Scobie
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
spouse: Ann Eliza
child: James Francis Scobie


name: James Francis Scobie
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 09 May 1851
baptism/christening place: ST NICHOLAS,LIVERPOOL,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
birth date: 23 Jul 1842
father's name: John Bowman Scobie
mother's name: Ann Eliza
indexing project (batch) number: P00599-5
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 93835

John Boman Skoby
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
spouse: Ann Eliza
child: Charlotte Kate Skoby


name: Charlotte Kate Skoby
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 27 Dec 1838
baptism/christening place: SAINT PETER,LIVERPOOL,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
father's name: John Boman Skoby
mother's name: Ann Eliza
indexing project (batch) number: P02027-4
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 93880, 93881, 93882

John Scowby
England, Marriages, 1538–1973
child: Ann Eliza Scowby


groom's name: John Palmer
groom's birth date: 1859
groom's age: 26
bride's name: Ann Eliza Scowby
bride's birth date: 1861
bride's age: 24
marriage date: 20 Sep 1885
marriage place: St. Lukes, Chorlton-Upon-Medlock, Lancashire, England
groom's father's name: John Palmer
bride's father's name: John Scowby
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M01391-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 2113048

Dear Ann . Thank you for all the info allot of it is quite new and more detailed than what I have heard before now . However it was the hope of finding info on the loss of John scobie skoby Scalby. during the voyage on the ship the " George of Dundee " that prompted my question . It is very difficult to find crew lists.
thank you so much for your reply and all the info.
Martin .

According to his marriage bond he was born 1814:

England, Cheshire, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1606-1900,

name: John Bowman Skoby
event: Intended marriage
event date: 21 Mar 1835
event place: Chester, Cheshire, England
residence:
gender: Male
age: 21
marital status:
father:
mother:
spouse: Ann Eliza Mathews
spouse's residence:
spouse's age: 21
spouse's marital status:
spouse's father:
spouse's mother:
film number: 1894630
digital folder number: 4018651
image number: 788

Source Citation
"England, Cheshire, Marriage Bonds and Allegations, 1606-1900," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FBNG-5QV : accessed 26 Aug 2012), John Bowman Skoby, 1835.

** Perhaps they've assumed 21 as "full age" ?

the only ship near that name that I can find

George Duncan 1847 schooner, 1853 purchased from Dundee & Hull Shipping Co., 23rd Jan.1860 sank near Shipwash Sands, Norfolk. 158 tons

This article does mention sickness on the George of Dundee in August 1843.
http://www.morrin.org/transactions/docsfromclient/books/317/317.html

and this one

The Ship George Fyfe
#38098
Description
Date Description
The Ship George Fyfe was described as being of 460 tons.1
Voyages
Date Details
16 September 1839 The Ship George Fyfe sailed from Tobermory, Isle of Mull, Scotland, on Monday, 16 September 1839 with George Donald McLachlan aboard and arrived in Sydney on 23 January 1840.1
1841 The Ship George Fyfe sailed from Plymouth, Devon, England, in 1841 and arrived in Port Philip, Australia on 23 July 1841.

George Fyfe, departed from an unknown port and arrived in Wellington, New Zealand, 7 November 1842.

George Fyfe, departed from an unknown port and arrived in Nelson, New Zealand, 12 December 1842.

Dear Ann and Marie.
Thanks so much for all your trouble in researching for me. The ship George arriving in Canada is very interesting and I will try to find out more. It is recorded on a legal document that in 1842 John Henry skoby scobie first mate, left Liverpool on the ship "George" the ship is one of 2 listed on Lloyds register as being possible candidates .
The ship George registered in Fife, I don't think this can be the one.
Thank you all again for looking by and helping me .
Martin.

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GEORGE - 1822

(Green Book - Underwriters)
Master: a) Captain A. Stewart; b) Captain J. McAlpine
Rigging: Brig; single deck with beams
Tonnage: 131 tons
Construction: in Yarmouth; vessel 19 years old; good repairs in 1815
Owners: Glass & Co.
Draught under load: 11 feet
Port of survey: a) Cork; b) Greenock
Voyage: sailed for: a) Glasgow; b) Québec

(Red Book - Shipowners)
Master: Captain J. Alpin
Rigging: Brig; single deck with beams
Tonnage: 126 tons
Construction: 1803 in Yarmouth; good repairs in 1815
Owners: Glass & Co.
Draught under load: 11 feet
Port of survey: Greenock
Voyage: sailed on Coastal Trade

GEORGE - 1830

(Green Book - Underwriters)
Master: Captain T. Foster/Captain Rattenbury
Rigging: Snow; single deck with beams; sheathed in copper
Tonnage: 185 tons
Construction: in Plymouth; vessel 19 years old; good repairs in 1825; partial new keel in 1826;
partial new deck and some repairs in 1830
Owners: G. Hooper
Draught under load: 13 feet
Port of survey: London
Voyage: sailed for Berbice

(Red Book - Shipowners)
Master: Captain Rattenbury
Rigging: Brig; single deck with beams; sheathed in copper and partly in felt in 1830
Tonnage: 182 tons
Construction: 1810 in Plymouth; new topsides in 1825; partial new keel in 1826;
partial new deck and some repairs in 1830
Owners: Gordon
Draught under load: 14 feet
Port of survey: London
Voyage: sailed for Van Diemen Land

GEORGE - 1831-1833

(Green Book - Underwriters)
Master: Captain G. Anderson
Rigging: Schooner; single deck
Tonnage: 82 tons
Construction: Arbroath; vessel 2 years old (1831)
Owners: Captain & Co.
Draught under load: 10 feet
Port of survey: London (1831-32); Leith (1833)
Voyage: sailed for Pillau (1831-32); Baltic Sea (1833)

(Red Book - Shipowners)
Master: Captain Anderson (1831); Captain Taylor (1831-33)
Rigging: Schooner; single deck
Tonnage: 84 tons
Construction: 1829 in Scotland
Owners: McTaggart
Draught under load: 10 feet
Port of survey: London
Voyage: sailed for Elsinor