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Thanks PricklyHolly

I will add it to my research just in case it is him but at the moment I have no way of telling for sure, Although it does look like its him.

thanks again

Jane

Possibly Joseph in 1911

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1911 England Census
about Joseph Smith
Name: Joseph Smith
Age in 1911: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation to Head: Patient
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Marital Status: Widowed
Occupation: Gen Labourer
Registration district: Birmingham
Registration District Number: 384
Sub-registration district: All Saints

Joseph Smith Widower General Labourer.


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England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
about Joseph F Smith
Name: Joseph F Smith
Birth Date: abt 1867
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1945
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 466

Matilda died in 1900 which would explain why Gladys was with her Grandfather.

Gladys Smith belonged to Fanny's sister Matilda who married Joseph Smith.

Jane

Thank you

Jane

Confusing because Fanny obviously preferred the name Amy in the earlier census.

Happy reseaching..........Prickles. x

PricklyHolly

You are being really kind doing all this research for me. thank you so much. Brummie 46 I will go and have a look at freeBMD as you suggest. I had completely forgotton about that site. I think I need to switch my brain on.

Thanks a lot for your help

Jane

1891 England Census
about Amy Abel
Name: Amy Abel
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Abel
Mother's Name: Anne Abel
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthbert
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2398
Folio: 159
Page Number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
William Abel 46
Anne Abel 45
Matilda Abel 21
Laura Abel 18
William Abel 17
Arthur Abel 15
Amy Abel 12


1881 England Census
about Amy Abel
Name: Amy Abel
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Abel
Mother's Name: Annie Abel
Gender: Female
Where born: Bham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: 43 Landsdowne St
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3008
Folio: 6
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
William Abel 37
Annie Abel 35
John Abel 13
Matilda Abel 11
Laura Abel 9
William Abel 7
Arthur Abel 5
Amy Abel 2
Sarah Norman 16
John Norman 21

The death of Fanny's Mother...

Deaths Dec 1909 (>99%)

ABEL Annie 63 King's N. 6c 267

Thank youPricklyHolly and Brummie46 so much for all your help Yes I think you have found them for me.

I didnt realise that the Amy born in 1876 died aged 1 so she cant be mine.

That will teach me for copying my Uncles research I got the name Amy from his records. I thought he had researched this family in great detail. Just goes to show that you need to confirm everything and not take anything fro granted.

Thank you so much

Jane

It seems Fanny preferred the name Amy in the 1901 census.

Note the Grandaughter Gladys Smith who appears in the 1911 census is with the family.

1901 England Census
about Amy Abel
Name: Amy Abel
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Abel
Mother's Name: Anne Abel
Gender: Female
Where born: B'ham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St Oswald
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 97
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 35
Piece: 2866
Folio: 7
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
William Abel 55 (Retired Steel Tube Maker)
Anne Abel 54
Arthur Abel 25 (Steel Tube Maker)
Amy Abel 22
Gladys Smith 3 (Grandaughter)

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Fanny Maud A Abel
Name: Fanny Maud A Abel
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1879
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 253



There is an Amy Abel born 1876 but she died in 1877

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Amy Abel
Name: Amy Abel
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1876
Registration district: Aston
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 401


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Amy Abel
Name: Amy Abel
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1877
Age at Death: 1
Registration district: Aston
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 209

Marriages Mar 1908 (>99%)

ABEL Fanny Maud A Aston 6d 410
ASTON Joseph Aston 6d 410

Could this be what you are looking for........

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Household transcription
1911 census

Person: ASTON, Stanley Clifford
Address: 133 Lightwoods Road Smethwick

ABEL, William Head Widower M 68 1843 Steel Tube Maker Retired North Litteton Worcestershire Evesham VIEW
ASTON, Joseph Son In Law Married M 33 1878 Carpenter And Joiner Warwickshire Bham VIEW
ASTON, Fanny Maud Amy Daughter Married3 years F 32 1879 Warwickshire Bham VIEW
ASTON, Stanley Clifford Grandchild M 2 1909 Warwickshire Bham VIEW
SMITH, Gladys Grandchild F 13 1898 School Staffordshire Smethwick VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 17944
Reference: RG14PN17944 RG78PN1094 RD383 SD4 ED2 SN140
Registration District: Kings Norton
Sub District: Smethwick
Enumeration District: 2
Parish: Smethwick
Address: 133 Lightwoods Road Smethwick
County: Worcestershire

(2 children were born to Joseph and Fanny.....1 had died)

Sorry I have to go to the Doctors will check in when I get back

Jane

Please can someone see if they can find Joseph Aston and his wife Amy Aston in Aston Birmingham on the 1911 census. I have only just started looking at this family so I do not have much to go on.

Amy was born in Aston Birmingham I thought in 1879 but it could be 1876. I think they had one son.

Sorry not much help I know.

Thanks for looking

Jane