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Hi jax

Thanks very much for all the info! It is excellent, even if it does get a bit confusing at times!!!!

with heaps of thanks,
Ann :-D

This looks like Rachel's previous marriage

Marriages Jun 1876 (>99%)
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Williamson Andrew Colchester 4a 418
Woods Rachel Rebecca Colchester 4a 418


Household transcription
1891 census

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Person: WILLIAMSON, Rachel R
Address: 21, Rock Avenue, Fulham

WILLIAMSON, Andrew Head Married M 63 1828 Railway Lavatory Attendent
Liverpool, Lancashire VIEW
WILLIAMSON, Rachel R Wife Married F 53 1838
Suffolk VIEW
WILLIAMSON, Eliza Daughter Single F 20 1871 Laundry Ironer
Colchester, Essex VIEW
LAWLER, Andrew Grandson M 5 1886
London VIEW
FRIEND, John Andrew Nephew Single M 27 1864 Musician
Colchester, Essex VIEW


maybe his death

Deaths Sep 1891 (>99%)
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WILLIAMSON Andrew 66 Fulham 1a 212

just to add more confusion!!!! hehe

Household transcription
1911 census

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Person: BARTON, Willam
Address: Target Stone St Maidstone

BARTON, Willam Head Married M 66 1845 Beer Retailer Common Lodging House Keeper High Halden Kent VIEW
BARTON, Rachel Sharman Wife Married20 years F 72 1839 Assisting In Business Peter Suffolk VIEW
SPARROW, Elizabeth Grand-Daughter Single F 15 1896 None London VIEW
SEAGER, John Lodger M 40 1871 General Labourer N K VIEW
O BRIAN, Marton Lodger M 36 1875 VIEW
LUCAS, Walter Lodger M 28 1883 VIEW
CHOULES, Thomas Lodger M 29 1882 VIEW
ADAMS, Jack Lodger M 36 1875 VIEW
HOBBS, Edward Lodger M 18 1893 VIEW

Said they had been married 20 years??

Large house had 10 rooms

Thanks for the info choccy!!

His mother was not Rachel...his mother was Ann

The 1901 census does not include him as he was in the Army but that was the address he gave

gotta love it when they marry twice!!!

Sorry, but I'm a bit confused!

His military attestation showed the address of 1 Hackney Road, Maidstone, the same as the 1901 census, which states his mother as Rachel born 1836, but the 1881 census has his mother as Anne born 1845.

Household transcription
1871 census

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Person: BARTON, William
Address: Monk's Hill Cottages, Smarden

BARTON, William Head M 26 1845 Kent, High Halden VIEW
BARTON, Anne Wife F 26 1845 Kent, Loose VIEW
BARTON, Agnes Daughter F 6 1865 Kent, Loose VIEW
BARTON, Alice Daughter F 4 1867 Kent, Loose VIEW
BARTON, Georgiana H Daughter F 3 1868 Kent, Biddenden VIEW
BARTON, Joseph Son M 1 1870 Kent, Smarden VIEW

Looks like William did not marry Rachel until 1902

Marriages Mar 1902 (>99%)
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Barton William Maidstone 2a 1231
Williamson Rachel Rebecca L Maidstone 2a 1231

Anns death

Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%)
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Barton Ann Laura 47 Malling 2a 545

on his military records he was born 'Kingsdown', Gravesend - think this was probably Kingsdown, Dartford


Births Jun 1881 (>99%)
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BARTON John Dartford 2a 463

Household transcription
1881 census

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Person: BARTON, Joseph
Address: Holly Hall Cottage, Kingsdown
BARTON, William Head Married M 36 1845 Farm Labourer
High Halden, Kent VIEW
BARTON, Anne Wife Married F 36 1845 Farm Labourers Wife
Loose, Kent VIEW
BARTON, George Hannah Daughter Single F 14 1867 Scholar
Bidenden, Kent VIEW
BARTON, Joseph Son Single M 13 1868 Scholar
Smarden, Kent VIEW
BARTON, Isaac Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Smarden, Kent VIEW
BARTON, Thos Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar
Boughton, Kent VIEW
BARTON, Edwin Son Single M 4 1877
Stanstead, Kent VIEW
BARTON, Henry Son Single M 2 1879
Wrotham, Kent VIEW

Piece: 870
Folio: 6
Page: 5
Registration District: Dartford
Civil Parish: Kingsdown
Municipal Borough:
Address: Holly Hall Cottage, Kingsdown
County: Kent

They were living in Dartford just before he was born

That was from Find my past the Images are discription of him like hieght build tattoos No photos....I have trouble sending them I'm affraid

That birth seems about the right time but would have thought he would have been registered in Malling but I cannot see anything

The 1891 census has him with a different wife?? And his military record has him born in Gravesend but you found a birth in June in Dartford??

That's brilliant jax, thanks very much. If he was 18 & 4 months when he joined up in September 1899 then his date of birth would be May 1881. You mention that 'there are 4 images available for this soldier' does that mean that there are photos of him or just the records? I have tried to access the National Archives with his name and number but don't seem to be able to find him....what I am doing wrong!!!!

Household transcription
1891 census

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Person: BARTON, George
Address: Mill Street, East Malling
BARTON, William Head Married M 44 1847 Agricultural Labourer
High Halden, Kent VIEW
BARTON, Anne Wife Married F 47 1844
Loose, Kent VIEW
BARTON, Joseph Son Single M 21 1870 Agricultural Farm Labourer
Smarden, Kent VIEW
BARTON, Isaac G Son Single M 18 1873 General Labourer
Smarden, Kent VIEW
BARTON, Thomas Son Single M 16 1875 General Labourer
Boughton Monchelsea, Kent VIEW
BARTON, Edwin Son Single M 14 1877 Errand Boy
Stansted, Kent VIEW
BARTON, Henry Son M 11 1880 Scholar
Wrotham, Kent VIEW
BARTON, John Son M 9 1882 Scholar
Wrotham, Kent VIEW
BARTON, Jane Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar
West Farleigh, Kent VIEW
BARTON, George Son M 7 1884 Scholar
West Farleigh, Kent VIEW
BARTON, Robert Son M 3 1888
East Malling, Kent VIEW
BARTON, Alice Granddaughter F 2 1889
East Malling, Kent VIEW

Maybe??

Births Jun 1881 (>99%)
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BARTON John Dartford 2a 463

This is him as he gives that address above

British Army Service Records 1760-1915
First name(s): John

Last name: BARTON

Calculated year of birth: 1881

Parish of birth: Ringsdwon

Town of birth: Gravesend

County of birth: Kent

Age at attestation: 18 years 4 months

Attestation date: 11 September 1899

Attestation corps: 3RD BN THE BUFFS

Attestation soldier number: 5644

Discharge rank:

Discharge corps: Buffs (East Kent Regiment) - 3rd Foot

Discharge soldier number:

The National Archives reference: WO96 / 32 / 339

There are 4 images available for this soldier

Household transcription
1901 census

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Person: BARTON, William
Address: 1, Hackney Road, Maidstone

Disability Where born Image
BARTON, William Head Married M 54 1847 Platelayer On Railway
High Halden, Kent VIEW
BARTON, Rachel R Wife Married F 65 1836
? Petter, Suffolk VIEW
BARTON, George Son Single M 18 1883 Farm Laborer
West Farleigh, Kent VIEW
BARTON, Sidney Son Single M 14 1887 Papermaker's Boy
West Farleigh, Kent VIEW
SPARROW, Elizabeth Grand Daughter F 5 1896
Marylebone, London VIEW
SPARROW, Annie R Daughter Married F 37 1864
Olchester, Essex VIEW

Hi jax

On Johns marriage certificate his fathers occupation is listed as Railway Plate Layer