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Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Aug 2012 23:24

Patricia.

Sorry we've confused you.
It simply seems that Jane Elizabeth was really the other way round...Elizabeth Jane.
When born her surname was Lines.
Her mother then remarried and brought all the children up in the new name of Fish.
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Her birth cert may tell you her real father

Births Mar 1878
Lines Elizabeth Jane - Woodbridge 4a 708

Patricia

Patricia Report 6 Aug 2012 23:16

hi all thank you for your help i am now more confused, i guess the only to be sure is to get a copy of her marriage certificate. i will let you all know how i get on.

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Aug 2012 22:58

So.....

1881

Name: George Fish
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1840
Birthplace: Woodbridge, Suffolk, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Condition: Married
Profession/Occupation: Rag & Bone Dealer
Address: Bredfield Street
Census Place: Woodbridge, Suffolk, England

Head George Fish M 41 Woodbridge, Suffolk, England
Wife Sarah Fish F 46 Woodbridge, Suffolk, England
Son George Fish M 18 Woodbridge, Suffolk, England
Son Charles Fish M 16 Woodbridge, Suffolk, England
Daughter Alice Fish F 14 Woodbridge, Suffolk, England
Son Samuel Fish M 9 Woodbridge, Suffolk, England
Daughter Elizabeth Fish F 3 Woodbridge, Suffolk, England

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Aug 2012 22:46

Sarah in 1871


1871 census transcription details for: Queen's Head Lane, Woodbridge
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG10
Piece: 1759
Folio: 143
Page: 19
Reg. District: Woodbridge
Sub District: Woodbridge & Wilford
Parish: Woodbridge
Enum. District: 11
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Queen's Head Lane, Woodbridge
County: Suffolk
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
FISH, George Head M 31 1840 costermonger Suffolk
LINES, Sarah A F 37 1834 Suffolk
LINES, Laura F 17 1854 Suffolk
LINES, George M 8 1863 Suffolk
LINES, Charles M 6 1865 Suffolk
LINES, Alice F 4 1867 Suffolk

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 6 Aug 2012 22:43

Born as Lines, as were all the children:

Births Mar 1878
Lines Elizabeth Jane Woodbridge 4a 708

Marriages Jun 1879
FISH George Woodbridge 4a 1067
Lines Sarah Ann Woodbridge 4a 1067

Rose

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Aug 2012 22:42

She gives her birthplace as Woodbridge.

Wonder if she is one of these whose mother later re-married ?


Births Mar 1875
LENNEY Jane Elizabeth Woodbridge 4a 575
Lenney Jane Elizabeth Woodbridge 4a 675

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Births Dec 1875
HOWLETT Jane Elizabeth Woodbridge 4a 640

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Births Sep 1877
Grayston Jane Elizabeth Woodbridge 4a 678

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Births Mar 1878
Hearn Jane Elizabeth Woodbridge 4a 702

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Births Mar 1879
Simpson Jane Elizabeth Woodbridge 4a 717

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Births Sep 1879
Mills Jane Elizabeth Woodbridge 4a 711

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 6 Aug 2012 22:35

??
Births Sep 1878 (>99%)
Fish Elizabeth Plomesgate 4a 738

Plomesgate is in Suffolk.

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Aug 2012 22:33


1881 census transcription details for: Bredfield Street, Woodbridge
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11
Piece: 1883
Folio: 100
Page: 25
Reg. District: Woodbridge
Sub District: Woodbridge and Wilford
Parish: Woodbridge
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Bredfield Street, Woodbridge
County: Suffolk
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
FISH, George Head Married M 41 1840 Rag & Bone Dealer
Woodbridge, Suffolk
FISH, Sarah Wife Married F 46 1835
Woodbridge, Suffolk
FISH, George Son Single M 18 1863 Rag & Bone Dealer
Woodbridge, Suffolk
FISH, Charles Son Single M 16 1865 Rag & Bone Dealer
Woodbridge, Suffolk
>>FISH, Alice Daughter Single F 14 1867
Woodbridge, Suffolk
FISH, Samuel Son Single M 9 1872 Scholar
Woodbridge, Suffolk
>>FISH, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 3 1878 Scholar
Woodbridge, Suffolk


?? Staying with her sister?

1891 census transcription details for: 51, Summerfield Terrace, Lee
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG12
Piece: 519
Folio: 152
Page: 17
Reg. District: Lewisham
Sub District: Lee
Parish: Lee
Enum. District: 16
Ecclesiastical District: St Mildred
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 51, Summerfield Terrace, Lee
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
GIBBS, George Head Married M 22 1869 General Labourer
Leytonstone, London
>>GIBBS, Alice Wife Married F 23 1868 Laundress
Woodbridge, Suffolk
GIBBS, Alice Daughter F 3 1888
Lee, London
GIBBS, Kate Daughter F 1 1890
Lee, London
>>FISH, Lizzie Lodger Single F 13 1878
Woodbridge, Suffolk

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Aug 2012 22:30

1911 census transcription details for: 45 Collerston Road East Greenwich S E
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN2702 RG78PN92 RD28 SD5 ED16 SN162
Reg. District: Greenwich
Sub District: Greenwich East
Parish: Greenwich
Enum. District: 16
Address: 45 Collerston Road East Greenwich S E
County: London
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
WOOLNOUGH, William Head Married M 36 1875 Gas Stoker Greenwich Kent
WOOLNOUGH, Elizabeth J Wife Married
13 years F 33 1878 Woodbridge Suffolk
WOOLNOUGH, Annie Daughter F 13 1898 School Greenwich Kent
WOOLNOUGH, Alice Daughter F 12 1899 School Greenwich Kent
WOOLNOUGH, Elizabeth Daughter F 8 1903 School Greenwich Kent
WOOLNOUGH, Kathleen Daughter F 1 1910 Greenwich Kent
FISH, Sarah Ann Mother Widow F 78 1833 Woodbridge Suffolk

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Aug 2012 22:29

calling her Elizabeth in 1911
1911 England Census about Elizabeth Woolnough
Name: Elizabeth Woolnough
Age in 1911: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Woodbridge, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Greenwich
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 45 Collerston Road, East Greenwich SE
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 13
Estimated Marriage Year: 1898
Registration district: Greenwich
Registration District Number: 28
Sub-registration district: Greenwich East
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Piece: 2702
Household Members:
Name Age
William Woolnough 36
Elizabeth Woolnough 33
Annie Woolnough 13
Alice Woolnough 12
Elizabeth Woolnough 8
Kathleen Woolnough 1
Sarah Ann Fish 78 >>>>>b woodbridge Suffolk

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 2702.


seems to have her mum with them >>>>>

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 6 Aug 2012 22:29

You can order the marriage certificate online from here:-

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Use the reference numbers already given to you. The certificate will cost £9. 25p.

When the form asks if the full GRO reference is known make sure you say "yes" otherwise they will ask for extra details.

Kath. x

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Aug 2012 22:27

Name: Jane Elizabeth Woolnough
Birth Date: 31 Dec 1875
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1972
Age at Death: 96
Registration district: Greenwich
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5b
Page: 1147


When did William die ?

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Aug 2012 22:26

You can buy certificates online frpm the General Reg Office ( 9.25 each) quoting the ref number 1d 1911

Here's the link :
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Aug 2012 22:25

1901
Name: Jane E Woolnough
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William H Woolnough
Gender: Female
Where born: Woodbridge, Suffolk, England
Civil parish: Greenwich
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Greenwich
Sub-registration district: Greenwich East
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 236
Piece: 543
Folio: 63
Page Number: 39
Household Members:
Name Age
William H Woolnough 26
Jane E Woolnough 23
Annie V Woolnough 4
Alice V Woolnough 2

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 543; Folio: 63; Page: 39.

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Aug 2012 22:24

???
1901 census transcription details for: 27, Blakeleys Buildings, Greenwich
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 543
Folio: 63
Page: 39
Reg. District: Greenwich
Sub District: Greenwich East
Parish: Greenwich
Enum. District: 25
Ecclesiastical District: St Andrew & St Michael East Greenwich
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 27, Blakeleys Buildings, Greenwich
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
WOOLNOUGH, William H Head Married M 26 1875 Gas Stoker
Greenwich, Kent
WOOLNOUGH, Jane E Wife Married F 23 1878
Woodbridge, Suffolk
WOOLNOUGH, Annie V Daughter F 4 1897
Greenwich, Kent
WOOLNOUGH, Alice V Daughter F 2 1899
Greenwich, Kent

Patricia

Patricia Report 6 Aug 2012 22:24

Woolnough william was hef husbands name. where can i get a copy of the marriage cert

Patricia

Patricia Report 6 Aug 2012 22:22

no unfortnately i dont i knw she married william woolnough in 1897 in lewisham. i only came across the death certificatre recently whilst going through some paperwork my found when my aunt died. there is no olne on my dads side to ask as they are all unforty=unately deceased and his family were very secreative.

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Aug 2012 22:20

How do you know she was born Fish ?
She may have been a widow.

The marriage cert should tell you her father's name


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Marriages Jun 1897 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Fish Jane Elizabeth Lewisham 1d 1911
Jones Florence Kate Lewisham 1d 1911
Snowden Lancelot John Lewisham 1d 1911
WOOLNOUGH William Henry Lewisham 1d 1911

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Aug 2012 22:18

have you found them on any census after they married?

alviegal

alviegal Report 6 Aug 2012 22:17

Civil Registration event: Marriage
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Name: FISH, Jane Elizabeth
Registration district: Lewisham
County: London
Year of registration: 1897
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 1D
Page no: 1911

MarriageFinder: Jane Elizabeth Fish married one of the following people:

SNOWDEN, Lancelot John

WOOLNOUGH, William Henry

JONES, Florence Kate