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Please can someone find Elizabeth Halliday on the 1901 census for Salford, lancashire. I know very little about this person except that she married Dec 1923 in Salford to Harold S Chorley.

I believe she was born about 1900 in Salford.

Thank you for your help

Jane

1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Halliday
Name: Elizabeth Halliday
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: James Halliday
Gender: Female
Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Pendleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 58
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 198
Piece: 3719
Folio: 107
Page Number: 34
Household Members: Name Age
James Halliday 29
Amy Halliday 5
Caroline Halliday 4
Elizabeth Halliday 2
Esther A Parker 24


or maybe

1901 England Census
about Elizabeth Halliday
Name: Elizabeth Halliday
Age: 5 Months
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Francis Halliday
Mother's Name: Mary E Halliday
Gender: Female
Where born: Pendleton, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Pendleton
Ecclesiastical parish: St George
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Pendleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 59
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 13
Piece: 3719
Folio: 119
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Halliday 27
Mary E Halliday 27
Edith Halliday 2
Elizabeth Halliday 5 Months
Mary Halliday 56


Andy

Thanks Andy for your help. It looks like I will either have to send for he birth cert or marriage cert to confirm who her father was. I think it was proably the second one you found

All the best

Jane

PS

I wonder if Francis (In the lower census) and James in the top census were brothers. I will have to investigate.

All th best

Jane

James is shown born Salford, Francis in Birkenhead, so unlikely to be immediate family.

I think the marriage cert for Elizabeth in 1923 is your best bet.

Andy

Thanks Andy

I think you are right.

All the best

Jane

A tree on Ancestry has the Elizabeth born to Francis and Mary dying in 1901, but you need to check details for yourself.

Andy

Oh that would put a spanner in the works then wouldnt it. She couldn't marry Harold if she was dead.

Oh well I will keep looking

Thanks for your help Andy

Jane

I've just Checked FreeBMD. There is a death for an Elizabeth Halliday aged one in Salford in Dec 1901which would agree with the tree on Ancestry. This means that the top Tree is probably mine.

Thanks Andy

Jane

That tree also has Francis and Mary arriving in the USA in 1905.........and as they don't appear in the 1911 census, i would say it's correct.

James has remarried...

??

Household transcription
1911 census

Person: HALLIDAY, Esther
Address: 9 Gibson Street Pendleton Salford

HALLIDAY, James Head Married M 39 1872 Tin Smith Lanc Pendleton VIEW
HALLIDAY, Esther Wife Married10 years F 34 1877 Lanc Preston VIEW
HALLIDAY, Amy Daughter Single F 15 1896 Helper To Weaving Lanc Pendleton VIEW
HALLIDAY, Caroline Daughter F 14 1897 Helper To Weaving Lanc Pendleton VIEW
HALLIDAY, Elizabeth Daughter F 12 1899 School Lanc Pendleton VIEW
HALLIDAY, Esther Daughter F 9 1902 Lanc Pendleton VIEW
HALLIDAY, Mary Jane Daughter F 7 1904 Lanc Pendleton VIEW
HALLIDAY, Edna Daughter F 3 1908 Lanc Pendleton VIEW
HALLIDAY, James Son M 1 1910 Lanc Pendleton VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 23934
Reference: RG14PN23934 RG78PN1381 RD465 SD1 ED3 SN212
Registration District: Salford
Sub District: Pendleton
Enumeration District: 3
Parish: Pendleton
Address: 9 Gibson Street Pendleton Salford
County: Lancashire

Thanks PricklyHolly I will discount them and go with the other family.

All the best

Jane

He married Esther A Parker (The Servant) who appears in the 1901 census...

Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%)
Halliday James Salford 8d 36
Parker Esther Ann Salford 8d 36

Thanks PricklyHolly

It does seem he remarried. The first marriage was to Mary Jane Hope in 1894. She died in 1900.

With yours and Andys Help I think I am getting there.

All the best

Jane

parish register for James remarriage (widower - collier)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-159376-889288-25?cc=1788853&wc=MMGS-HFF:891174154

Esther's name was actually Esther Ella (certificate and signature) - widow

edit

sorry - this was a different James / Ester marriage to Esther Longworth

Thank you Allotment. I will have to look into this. I will have to be carefull as I have just got in touch with this branch of my family and I dont want to upset them. They do not have her on their tree.

Thanks for this information

Jane

Thank you very much for that Lancashire Ann That is very interesting. I didn't know you can do that

All the best

Jane

it is only for a limited number of churches in the manchester/Salford area and the images have to be trawled through (browse images on familysearch).

Unfortunately Salford St George is not one of the churches at present

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1923
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HALLIDAY Elizabeth CHORLEY Harold Sidney Salford St George Salford C37/8/56