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Hi Mary,

That's intriguing, there could be a connection there.

Based on Roses unusual given name of Caporn, I was also looking at any Caporns in Coventry around that time, and had found William Pears Caporn (parents possibly William Caporn and Martha Pears?). However I hadn't got the street name. Upper Well Street and Well Street are close by each other.

Thanks for your posts on this thread :-)

1871 Holy Trinity Coventry D3>9 19,Well Street.
Sarah Jane Walker age 18 dressmaker at home with parents William and Rebecca.

Connection??
1871 Holy trinity D4 > 5 Upper Wells Street.
The Caporn family head of house William Pears/Piers Caporn 1817.

This Caporn family in 1881 were in Canada

One sister to Sarah was Louisa Harris White 1858 married 1875 to Peter Burke.
Another sister Rebecca H White 1862- 1871.

Maryb.

Well, I can't find her!

I have traced through on 3 possible marriages but they are all not her :-(

Dea x

Was thinking the same Dea,no children were born to that marriage!


.Still curious as to what became of Lillie.

Maryb.

Very good point Dea - the marriage was in 1876, and Lillie was born in 1874/1875 according to her age on the 1881 and 1891 censuses. So she was born before the marriage.

Hi maryb,

I don't have any further information about either Lillie or Harry unfortunately.

OR - she made a correct statement re children born to 'that marriage' as one was born before the marriage and the other did not have the husband stated as the father on the birth cert. SO, in fact there were no children born to that 'couple' ???

Dea x

Hi PricklyHolly,

Thanks very much for the info - I looked at the 1911 census record for Archibald Luck and I see what you mean.

I am pretty sure the 1911 census record is the same Sarah Jane Walker, as the age, profession, and birthplace all fit. As you say it is very odd - perhaps she just made a mistake on the census form?

1901 with Sarah Jane is Harry Walker 1896 says son of Sarah Jane??

Do you know anything about him or what happened to Lillie?

Maryb

Hi Dan

Just to say that a Widow or Widower was not supposed to fill in the details about children in the 1911 census.

If they did, it was crossed out by the enumerator.

Here is an example..........look up Archibald Luck born 1900...he is in Southampton.

Very odd that Sarah put..........."None".

Hi maryb,

"The 1911 census posted for Sarah Jane above says on original no children born to her."

It says "NONE", but this is crossed out with a red line

Hi Patchem,

That's a good question, I don't have the birth certificate for Lillie Walker, or any other information apart from the 1881 and 1891 censuses.

I found a birth for Lilian Walker but it turned out to be somebody different. I will keep searching for more information about Lillie - its tricky without knowning what Lillie is short for.

The 1881 and 1891 censuses have Lillie Walker, born 1875. Interesting to see how she fits in, as born before that marriage, so how was she registered?

puzzled rose florence Caporn

father john walker

mother sarah jane white ..


well wouldnt her name be walker not caporn

unless mother had broken up with john and had an affair with someone caporn ?????????????

The 1911 census posted for Sarah Jane above says on original no children born to her.

Maryb

It states she is a widow on the 1901.

It is odd that Rose's Father is not on the birth certificate.

possible for mother

1911 Census Household Record Household information
Address 25 Silver St Coventry
Parish Coventry
Town Coventry
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 4
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN18548 RG78PN1111 RD390 SD2 ED10 SN78
Administrative County Warwickshire
Registration District Coventry
Registration Sub District Holy Trinity
Enumeration District 10
Householder 1
Name Sarah Jane Walker
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender F
Age 58
Estimated Year of Birth 1853
Occupation Dressmaker
Employed Y
Working at Home Y
Place of Birth Coventry Trinity Parish
Nationality English

Hi PricklyHolly,

do you think I am reading too much into the fact that there is no father on Rose's birth certificate? Maybe I'm wrong in thinking that means that Rose is likely to be illegitimate?

Thanks

It states Jane (Sarah) is married on the 1891....perhaps John was away at sea.

Thanks for all the replies :-)

PricklyHolly and PollyPoppet, yes those records are for Rose and her mother Sarah Jane, I also came across those records during my searches. John Walker is not mentioned on those records, so I am not sure what happened to him.

safc - thanks for the website link