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Thanks to all the help given to me re my mother Irene Teale I have tracked a huge part of her fathers side of the family but I am really struggling with her relatives on her mothers side, in particular those in New Zealand. Susan Hart was her aunt who lived in Wellington, New Zealand who i believe had 2 boys, Jack (married to Peggy) and Allen. I believe that Allen married her second cousin Virginia Warren who possibly lived in Southend on Sea, Essex.
Once again, any help would be hugely appreciated
Diane

Hello Diane, is there relevant info on your other thread that we need to refer to?

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1300811

You need to give us some dates and timescales ......

OK I will do my best! I think Susan Hart was born about 1890 and her children in the late 1910's/early 1920's. I have a photo of her taken in1943 holding a grandchild, Virginia, who looks to be about 3 years old. I think she is the daughter of her son Jack. I dont believe her son Allen was married then. I know that Allen was an officer on the Shaw Savill line sailing between New Zealand and London, and I remember going to meet him at Tilbury Docks, as a child, after his ship had docked . I am almost certain that Susan was born in England and she had a sister Joan who remained in the UK. How Susan came to be in New Zealand I have no idea, neither do I know her maiden name. My mothers mother was Emma Etty Foster. born in1885, one of 9 children. Her father Was William Alfred Foster born in 1846 in Bethnal Green, one of 6 boys. He was married to Jane and her Grandfather was Stephen Foster born in 1815 and married to Jane. In the 1940's Susan Hart lived in Wellington NZ as I have several letters from her that were sent to my mother during WWII.
I hope this info is of use, I am really struggling to get any leads to the NZ side of the family and hope you can help.
Diane

I'm really struggling to follow this .....

If I'm reading this correctly, Susan Hart was your mother's aunt - in which case Susan was the sister of either Irene's mother or father, that shouldn't be too difficult to unravel. OR - is Susan the aunt of your mother's mother?

You say William Foster was married to Jane, but in 1911 his wife was Sarah Ann? They's been married 36 years, had 9 children, of which 6 survived.

FOSTER, William Ad Head Married M 67 1844 Labourer Starch Bethnal Green Mdx
FOSTER, Sarah Ann Wife F 57 1854 Bromley
FOSTER, Emma Etty Daughter Single F 26 1885 Dresmaker Essex
FOSTER, Florence Daughter Single F 25 1886 Machinist Mantle Essex
FOSTER, Herbert W Son Single M 21 1890 Labourer Dock Essex

RG number: RG14 Piece: 9431 Reference: RG14PN9431 RG78PN507A RD188 SD3 ED21 SN473
Registration District: West Ham
Sub District: Plaistow
Enumeration District: 21
Parish: West Ham

Address: 55 Chesterton Road Plaistow E County: Essex

(I know this is on the other thread)

Diane, I'm happy to try and help, but we really need to unravel these relationships in order to go further.

Diane,
I looked at electoral rolls in NZ, found this and worked the couple back to their marriage
SUSANNAH ELIZABETH FOSTER married Charles Henry Hart in NZ 1921
Lived at 242 Tinakori Road, Wellington during WW2 years
Susannah died 28 Jun 1970 aged 90yrs= year of birth 1880
Buried in Hamilton Park Cemetery, Waikato

Anne

Diane and Reggie,
I did a google search and came upon a conversation to rootsweb.
Someone was looking for info on Charles Henry Hart in NZ.
Part of the conversation seemed to suggest that Susannah Elizabeth had been married before and possibly called Tilbey.
I found the marriage of:
Susannah Elizabeth Tilbey to ALFRED JAMES FOSTER in West Ham 1902 (2nd qutr)
This couple cannot be found on the 1911 cenus

EDIT:
Is this his death?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Alfred James Foster
Name: Alfred James Foster
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1903
Age at Death: 27
Registration district: Edmonton
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 221 (click to see others on page)

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Births Mar 1881 (>99%)
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FOSTER Susannah Elizabeth St. Olave 1d 303


EDIT: Possibly not this one then.

Pm'd Diane asking if she can verify the Wellington address on letters from NZ

Diane has confirmed that the NZ address is as posted.
Susan E Hart was Susannah Elizabeth Tilbey b 1880 .
Married 1st to Alfred James Foster in 1902 and 2nd to Charles Henry Hart in NZ 1921

I am so grateful for all your help. i will now try to see if there are any living New Zealand relatives. Now that i have the date of Susannah's (Susan's) marriage to Charles Hart it will be easier, hopefully, to find relatives. I know that they had 2 boys, Jack and Allen and I have found both of them on the New Zealand death records. Now I need to try and find any children they may have had and so on. My dad, who is nearly 95, is going to be so happy that I have got this far as contact was lost when my Mum died many years ago.
Thanks again,
Diane

Name: Susannah E FOSTER
Date of departure: 4 February 1921
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Wellington, New Zealand
Passenger destination: Wellington, New Zealand
Date of Birth: 1881 (calculated from age)
Age: 40
Marital status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Nil
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 16
Albert E FOSTER Page 1 of 16 (age 10)
Alfred W FOSTER Page 1 of 16 (age 16 Metal Work)
Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
WILTSHIRE
132675
B G Hayward
Federal Steam Navigation Co Ld
Australia
6198
7801
385

(not sure if her going out?)

Chris :)

The emigration looks about right.
Susannah E Foster remarried in NZ on 8 Dec 1921

Found Alfred and Susan in 1911.
It means that Alfred died AFTER 1911.
Earlier post is not his death.

1911 England Census about Alfred Foster
Name: Alfred Foster
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bromley By Bow, London, England
Civil parish: West Ham
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address: 18 Knights Road, West Silvertown E
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Oil Refiner Mineral
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration district: Canning Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 198
Piece: 9477
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Foster 35
Susan Foster 31
Alfred Foster 6
Albert Foster 1
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Thanks for the above re Alfred Foster but this is not the correct Albert Foster. The place of birth and occupation are wrong. There are several Alfred Fosters in the London area at this given time, but my Alfred was born in Bethnal Green and was a wood carver. I too had followed this one up but definitely the wrong Alfred. Thanks anyway

Immigration found by Chris Ho is the correct woman.
Her son Alfred William Foster married in NZ1930.
In later life, widowed Susannah Elizabeth Hart and her son lived at the same address in Waikato.
Edit:
1928 NZ electoral roll find Charles Henry Hart, his wife Susannah E Hart and both Alfred and Albert Foster in the same household