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John McKenzie married Isabella Reid

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Stephen

Stephen Report 14 Jul 2012 17:24

Has anyone been researching the families of John McKenzie who married Isabella Reid in Trenent, East Lothian on 31 December 1841.

If so I wiould be very interested in hearing from you. John & Isabella were my Gt Gt Grandparents .

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 14 Jul 2012 17:27

Hi Stephen

Have you put members of this family in "Search Trees" to see if any other members of GR are reseaching this family?

jax

jax Report 14 Jul 2012 17:27

Have you tried the search trees?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 14 Jul 2012 17:38

Isabella Reid
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
spouse: John Mckenzie
child: John Mckenzie


name: John Mckenzie
gender: Male
birth date: 19 Sep 1856
birthplace: TRANENT,EAST LOTHIAN,SCOTLAND
father's name: John Mckenzie
mother's name: Isabella Reid
indexing project (batch) number: C11722-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516

Isabella Reid
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
spouse: John Mckenzie
child: Peter Mckenzie


name: Peter Mckenzie
gender: Male
birth date: 20 Jun 1861
birthplace: TRANENT,EAST LOTHIAN,SCOTLAND
father's name: John Mckenzie
mother's name: Isabella Reid
indexing project (batch) number: C11722-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516

Isabella Reid
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
spouse: John Mckenzie
child: James Mckenzie


name: James Mckenzie
gender: Male
birth date: 18 Jan 1860
birthplace: TRANENT,EAST LOTHIAN,SCOTLAND
father's name: John Mckenzie
mother's name: Isabella Reid
indexing project (batch) number: C11722-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516

Isabella Reid
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
spouse: John Mckenzie
child: James Mckenzie


name: James Mckenzie
gender: Male
birth date: 11 Mar 1863
birthplace: TRANENT,EAST LOTHIAN,SCOTLAND
father's name: John Mckenzie
mother's name: Isabella Reid
indexing project (batch) number: C11722-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 14 Jul 2012 17:39

?????????

Isabella Reid
Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth: 24 Jul 1819
christening: 14 Aug 1819 ,? ATHELSTANEFORD,? EAST LOTHIAN,? SCOTLAND
residence: 1819 Athelstaneford,? East Lothian,? Scotland
parents: James Reid,? Marion Dudgeon


name: Isabella Reid
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 14 Aug 1819
baptism/christening place: , ATHELSTANEFORD, EAST LOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
birth date: 24 Jul 1819
father's name: James Reid
mother's name: Marion Dudgeon
indexing project (batch) number: C11703-4
system origin: Scotland-VR
source film number: 1067794

Stephen

Stephen Report 14 Jul 2012 18:33

I di have a look Jax/PricklyHolly but couldnt tie down the thread I needed, maybe just me being thick. LOL

Thank you so much Ann, thats a great help ! :) you have filled in a lot of blanks !

Kind regards
Steve

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 14 Jul 2012 22:37

1861

Name: John Mckenzie
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John Mckenzie
Mother's name: Isabella Mckenzie
Gender: Male
Where born: Tranent, haddington
Registration number: 722
Registration district: Tranent
Civil parish: Tranent
County: East Lothian
ED: 12
Household schedule number: 61
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1861_135
Household Members: Name Age
John Mckenzie 49 Coal Miner, b. Chrande, Edinburgh
Isabella Mckenzie 38 b. Chrande, Edinburgh
Keneth Mckenzie 10
Jane Mckenzie 7
John Mckenzie 4

Think the birth places are a mistranscription but you can checkout the original on Scotlanspeople.


1871

Looks like John may be a widower in 1871 - so Isabella's death registration on Scotlandspeople will give her parents' names if the informant knew the details.

Name: John McKenzie
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: John McKenzie
Gender: Male
Where born: Tranent, East Lothian
Registration number: 722
Registration district: Tranent
Civil parish: Tranent
County: East Lothian
Address: 13 Chapel Row
Occupation: Coal Miner
ED: 7
Household schedule number: 91
Line: 6
Roll: CSSCT1871_173
Household Members: Name Age
John McKenzie 58
Kenneth McKenzie 20
Catherine McKenzie 28
John McKenzie 14
Kenneth McKenzie 95 Father, b. Tranent, East Lothian

Again, Dad Kenneth's death registration will give parents' names if the informant knew the details.

???

1841

Piece: SCT1841/722 Place: Tranent -East Lothian Enumeration District: 12
Civil Parish: Tranent (Part Of) Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 11 Page: 7
Address: Elphinstone


Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
MCKENZIE Kenneth M 54 Ag Lab East Lothian
MCKENZIE Jean F 60 East Lothian
MCKENZIE John M 25 Ag Lab Outside Census County (1841)
LON Mckenzie M 20 Coal Miner Outside Census County (1841)
MCKENZIE Jean F 6 Outside Census County (1841)




BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 14 Jul 2012 22:57

The 1861 census on FreeCen gives the birthplace of John and Isabella as Chranston, Midlothian.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 14 Jul 2012 23:22

Parents are possibly Kenneth McKenzie and Jean Simpson who married in Tranent 1809

Stephen

Stephen Report 17 Jul 2012 15:13

Thank you Beverley ! :)

Thank you Ann, yes that looks like a good possability

Many thanks
Steve

Stephen

Stephen Report 24 Jul 2012 21:22

It seems that the Isabella Reid that AnnCardiff mentions above (mother- Marian Dudgeon) is a different Isabella,

There was another Isabella Reid Born 10/ aug/1823 to a James Reid and Christian Wood (married Cranston 14/11/1823) , it looks possible that this is the Isabella that fits into this line, this birth date also ties in with her age in later census returns.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 26 Jul 2012 12:21

Kenneth McKenzie's age seems to be inaccurate on the census. He died aged 89 years in 1875. He was the widow of Jane Simpson. His father is given as Kenneth McKenzie and mother Catherine McKenzie maiden surname Allan. The informant was his son John McKenzie who made his mark.

Name: Kenneth Mackenzie
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Jan 1789
Baptism/Christening Place: , TRANENT, EAST LOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 06 Dec 1788
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Kenneth Mackenzie
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Kathrine Allan
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11722-6
System Origin: Scotland-VR
Source Film Number: 1067861
Reference Number: 2:15TX1VC


Name: George Logan Mackenzie
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 17 Mar 1799
Baptism/Christening Place: , TRANENT, EAST LOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 03 Mar 1799
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Kenneth Mackenzie
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Kathrine Allan
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11722-6
System Origin: Scotland-VR
Source Film Number: 1067861
Reference Number: 2:15TZ07D


Name: John_ Alexander Mackenzie
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 19 Jan 1794
Baptism/Christening Place: , TRANENT, EAST LOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 07 Jan 1794
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Kenneth Mackenzie
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Kathrine Allan
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11722-6
System Origin: Scotland-VR
Source Film Number: 1067861
Reference Number: 2:15TXJ0K


Name: Marion Mackenzie
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 01 Jan 1792
Baptism/Christening Place: , TRANENT, EAST LOTHIAN, SCOTLAND
Birth Date: 11 Nov 1791
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Kenneth Mackenzie
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Kathrine Allan
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11722-6
System Origin: Scotland-VR
Source Film Number: 1067861
Reference Number: 2:15TXB35


Stephen

Stephen Report 26 Jul 2012 14:21

Thank you for the above information Rootgatherer, thats very helpful, I also noticed the error in the age stated on the census, I have come cross this before to varying degrees.
Thanks again
Steve