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Stephen
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26 Jul 2012 14:21 |
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Thank you for the above information Rootgatherer, thats very helpful, I also noticed the error in the age stated on the census, I have come cross this before to varying degrees. Thanks again Steve
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26 Jul 2012 12:21 |
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Kenneth McKenzie's age seems to be inaccurate on the census. He died aged 89 years in 1875. He was the widow of Jane Simpson. His father is given as Kenneth McKenzie and mother Catherine McKenzie maiden surname Allan. The informant was his son John McKenzie who made his mark.
Name: Kenneth Mackenzie Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Jan 1789 Baptism/Christening Place: , TRANENT, EAST LOTHIAN, SCOTLAND Birth Date: 06 Dec 1788 Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Kenneth Mackenzie Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Kathrine Allan Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11722-6 System Origin: Scotland-VR Source Film Number: 1067861 Reference Number: 2:15TX1VC
Name: George Logan Mackenzie Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: 17 Mar 1799 Baptism/Christening Place: , TRANENT, EAST LOTHIAN, SCOTLAND Birth Date: 03 Mar 1799 Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Kenneth Mackenzie Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Kathrine Allan Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11722-6 System Origin: Scotland-VR Source Film Number: 1067861 Reference Number: 2:15TZ07D
Name: John_ Alexander Mackenzie Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 19 Jan 1794 Baptism/Christening Place: , TRANENT, EAST LOTHIAN, SCOTLAND Birth Date: 07 Jan 1794 Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Kenneth Mackenzie Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Kathrine Allan Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11722-6 System Origin: Scotland-VR Source Film Number: 1067861 Reference Number: 2:15TXJ0K
Name: Marion Mackenzie Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 01 Jan 1792 Baptism/Christening Place: , TRANENT, EAST LOTHIAN, SCOTLAND Birth Date: 11 Nov 1791 Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Kenneth Mackenzie Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Kathrine Allan Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C11722-6 System Origin: Scotland-VR Source Film Number: 1067861 Reference Number: 2:15TXB35
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24 Jul 2012 21:22 |
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It seems that the Isabella Reid that AnnCardiff mentions above (mother- Marian Dudgeon) is a different Isabella,
There was another Isabella Reid Born 10/ aug/1823 to a James Reid and Christian Wood (married Cranston 14/11/1823) , it looks possible that this is the Isabella that fits into this line, this birth date also ties in with her age in later census returns.
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Stephen
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17 Jul 2012 15:13 |
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Thank you Beverley ! :)
Thank you Ann, yes that looks like a good possability
Many thanks Steve
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GlasgowLass
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14 Jul 2012 23:22 |
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Parents are possibly Kenneth McKenzie and Jean Simpson who married in Tranent 1809
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BeverleyW
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14 Jul 2012 22:57 |
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The 1861 census on FreeCen gives the birthplace of John and Isabella as Chranston, Midlothian.
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14 Jul 2012 22:37 |
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Name: John Mckenzie Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relationship: Son Father's Name: John Mckenzie Mother's name: Isabella Mckenzie Gender: Male Where born: Tranent, haddington Registration number: 722 Registration district: Tranent Civil parish: Tranent County: East Lothian ED: 12 Household schedule number: 61 Line: 10 Roll: CSSCT1861_135 Household Members: Name Age John Mckenzie 49 Coal Miner, b. Chrande, Edinburgh Isabella Mckenzie 38 b. Chrande, Edinburgh Keneth Mckenzie 10 Jane Mckenzie 7 John Mckenzie 4 Think the birth places are a mistranscription but you can checkout the original on Scotlanspeople.
1871
Looks like John may be a widower in 1871 - so Isabella's death registration on Scotlandspeople will give her parents' names if the informant knew the details.
Name: John McKenzie Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relationship: Son Father's Name: John McKenzie Gender: Male Where born: Tranent, East Lothian Registration number: 722 Registration district: Tranent Civil parish: Tranent County: East Lothian Address: 13 Chapel Row Occupation: Coal Miner ED: 7 Household schedule number: 91 Line: 6 Roll: CSSCT1871_173 Household Members: Name Age John McKenzie 58 Kenneth McKenzie 20 Catherine McKenzie 28 John McKenzie 14 Kenneth McKenzie 95 Father, b. Tranent, East Lothian
Again, Dad Kenneth's death registration will give parents' names if the informant knew the details.
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Piece: SCT1841/722 Place: Tranent -East Lothian Enumeration District: 12 Civil Parish: Tranent (Part Of) Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: - Folio: 11 Page: 7 Address: Elphinstone
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks MCKENZIE Kenneth M 54 Ag Lab East Lothian MCKENZIE Jean F 60 East Lothian MCKENZIE John M 25 Ag Lab Outside Census County (1841) LON Mckenzie M 20 Coal Miner Outside Census County (1841) MCKENZIE Jean F 6 Outside Census County (1841)
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Stephen
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14 Jul 2012 18:33 |
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I di have a look Jax/PricklyHolly but couldnt tie down the thread I needed, maybe just me being thick. LOL
Thank you so much Ann, thats a great help ! :) you have filled in a lot of blanks !
Kind regards Steve
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AnnCardiff
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14 Jul 2012 17:39 |
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Isabella Reid Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: 24 Jul 1819 christening: 14 Aug 1819 ,? ATHELSTANEFORD,? EAST LOTHIAN,? SCOTLAND residence: 1819 Athelstaneford,? East Lothian,? Scotland parents: James Reid,? Marion Dudgeon
name: Isabella Reid gender: Female baptism/christening date: 14 Aug 1819 baptism/christening place: , ATHELSTANEFORD, EAST LOTHIAN, SCOTLAND birth date: 24 Jul 1819 father's name: James Reid mother's name: Marion Dudgeon indexing project (batch) number: C11703-4 system origin: Scotland-VR source film number: 1067794
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AnnCardiff
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14 Jul 2012 17:38 |
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Isabella Reid Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 spouse: John Mckenzie child: John Mckenzie
name: John Mckenzie gender: Male birth date: 19 Sep 1856 birthplace: TRANENT,EAST LOTHIAN,SCOTLAND father's name: John Mckenzie mother's name: Isabella Reid indexing project (batch) number: C11722-1 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 6035516 Isabella Reid Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 spouse: John Mckenzie child: Peter Mckenzie
name: Peter Mckenzie gender: Male birth date: 20 Jun 1861 birthplace: TRANENT,EAST LOTHIAN,SCOTLAND father's name: John Mckenzie mother's name: Isabella Reid indexing project (batch) number: C11722-1 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 6035516 Isabella Reid Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 spouse: John Mckenzie child: James Mckenzie
name: James Mckenzie gender: Male birth date: 18 Jan 1860 birthplace: TRANENT,EAST LOTHIAN,SCOTLAND father's name: John Mckenzie mother's name: Isabella Reid indexing project (batch) number: C11722-1 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 6035516 Isabella Reid Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 spouse: John Mckenzie child: James Mckenzie
name: James Mckenzie gender: Male birth date: 11 Mar 1863 birthplace: TRANENT,EAST LOTHIAN,SCOTLAND father's name: John Mckenzie mother's name: Isabella Reid indexing project (batch) number: C11722-1 system origin: Scotland-ODM source film number: 6035516
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14 Jul 2012 17:27 |
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Have you tried the search trees?
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PricklyHolly
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14 Jul 2012 17:27 |
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Hi Stephen
Have you put members of this family in "Search Trees" to see if any other members of GR are reseaching this family?
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Stephen
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14 Jul 2012 17:24 |
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Has anyone been researching the families of John McKenzie who married Isabella Reid in Trenent, East Lothian on 31 December 1841.
If so I wiould be very interested in hearing from you. John & Isabella were my Gt Gt Grandparents .
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