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That's Ambrose Mist 1877? Please let us know when the certificate arrives. If my working out is correct his mother's name will be Harriet (formerly) Angel nee Hearsey.

If it's not, it's back to the drawing board.

Christine
Am sending for Ambrose's birth this week. I already have Ambrose William's death cert (1887). It is the mystery of where he and his family were in 1861 and 1871 which has puzzled me. He also seems to have moved around from the North West of England to Sussex and Bucks quite regularly - very strange!
Phil Mist

Phillip

Can you get back to me on this please.

I fear my explanation of the 1861 and 1871 censuses may have been written down in a confusing way, making it difficult for someone to follow.

pointless sharing trees Philip - we have no connection

This then ties in with the family I found for you on the 1861 census. Living with William A. Angel.

I don't know what happen to William/Ambrose Angel, but the family have moved in with William/Ambrose Mist by 1871, and have taken on his name.

The family in 1871 are living at 50, Brill Row. The children baptised in London in 1870 (Louisa Mary Mist and Thomas Mist) were living at 50 Brile Road.

Hi Phillip, I've looked through this, rather confusing family, over the past coupe of days.

The only child who seems to have been registered is Ambrose Mist b.1877 in Yorkshire. I'm guessing his parents are Ambrose Mist and Harriet Hearsey. (Do you have the certificate? Do you know if this is the case?)

Harriet Hearsey married Ambrose William Angel in 1861.

Harriet Hearsey was born in Easebourne, Sussex - as her son George John was born before she was married, it's possible that he is:

George John Heresey - Jul-Sep 1858 - Vol.2b page 300 - Midhurst

Midhurst covers the district of Easebourne.

William Henry Angel
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 10 Sep 1826 Fordingbridge,? Hampshire,? England
residence: Fordingbridge,? Hampshire,? England
parents: Louisa Angel


name: William Henry Angel
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 10 Sep 1826
baptism/christening place: Fordingbridge, Hampshire, England
mother's name: Louisa Angel
indexing project (batch) number: C39084-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1041293

Louisa Angel
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 25 Dec 1798 Fordingbridge,? Hampshire,? England
residence: Hampshire,? England
parents: Wm. Angel,? Mary Angel


name: Louisa Angel
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 25 Dec 1798
baptism/christening place: Fordingbridge, Hampshire, England
father's name: Wm. Angel
mother's name: Mary Angel
indexing project (batch) number: I03680-1
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1596132

amazing name here!!!!

Ambray Ark Angel
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening: 27 Dec 1829 Fordingbridge,? Hampshire,? England
residence: Fordingbridge,? Hampshire,? England
parents: Louisa Angel


name: Ambray Ark Angel
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 27 Dec 1829
baptism/christening place: Fordingbridge, Hampshire, England
mother's name: Louisa Angel
indexing project (batch) number: C39084-7
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1041293

Brilliant/Fantastic response - I will look at all of the information you've all posted and will get back to you. Thank you very much indeed - it makes my efforts at research seem rather puny!

Thanks again

Phil Mist

Harriet Angel
England and Wales Census, 1861
birth: 1833 Eastbourne,? Sussex
census: 1861 Portchester,? Hampshire,? England


name: Harriet Angel
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Female
age: 28
relationship to head of household: Wife
birthplace: Eastbourne, Sussex
record type: Household
registration district: Fareham
sub-district: 1 Fareham
ecclesiastical parish: Portchester
civil parish: Portchester
county: Hampshire

Phillip

I've been searching for somewhile now for the 1861 and 1871 censuses that you were hoping to find. And I'm convinced that the ones I've posted (dotted around above) are the correct ones.

They're by no means straight forward though.

Although Ambrose Mist and Ambrose Angel are clearly two different people, as they're together on the 1841 census. - After that they seem to morph into the same person.

I'd be interested to know what you think.

Hi Chris

Yes,that one is in the Index so possibly a difference in the reading when transcribed

Day:8
Month:Feb
Year:1796
Son/Daughter:Son
Forename:Thomas
Surname:Mist
First Parent:Thomas
Second Parent:Christian
Notes:Town
Parish:Fordingbridge
County:Hampshire
Record source:Hampshire Baptisms
Data provider:Hampshire Genealogical Society


Day:19
Month:Nov
Year:1797
Son/Daughter:Son
Forename:Robt
Surname:Mist
First Parent:Thos
Second Parent:Catherine
Notes:Town
Parish:Fordingbridge
County:Hampshire
Record source:Hampshire Baptisms
Data provider:Hampshire Genealogical Society

Day:11
Month:Jan
Year:1800
Son/Daughter:Son
Forename:John
Surname:Mist
First Parent:Thos
Second Parent:Catherine
Notes:Town
Parish:Fordingbridge
County:Hampshire
Record source:Hampshire Baptisms
Data provider:Hampshire Genealogical Society

Marriage
Day:5
Month:Jun
Year:1781
Groom Surname:Mist
Groom Forename:Thomas
Groom Notes:
Bride Surname:Gosney
Bride Forename:Christian
Bride Notes:
Parish:Fordingbridge
County:Hampshire
Record source:Hampshire Marriages
Data provider:Hampshire Genealogical Society

(adding possible Marriage?)

Chris :)

Free BMD has these

1870-John Mist 72 Fordingbridge RD
1872-Louisa Mist 73 Fordingbridge RD

Marriage-12 October 1786 at Hale
William Angel
Mary Shering

Hale on Hants/Dorset border

Cannot find a Marriage for Thomas & Catherine in the Hampshire Index

Marriage 26 February 1832 at Fordingbridge
John MYST
Louisa ANGEL

Children of John & Louisa bapt at Fordingbridge
11 Mar 1832-Ambrose William
08 Sept 1833-Louisa Mary
07 Feb 1836-John Thomas
13 May 1838-Hester
13 Dc 1840-Hellen (sic)

also this one ?
27 Feb 1829-Ambry Ark ANGEL s Louisa

25 Dec 1798-Louisa Angel d William & Mary Godshill (Fordingbridge)
11 Jan 1800-John Mist s Thomas & Catherine Fordingbridge

Good. I'm glad at least you're there Ann.


There's a Harriet Hearsey baptised 1836 in Easebourne, Sussex which fits in with some of the censuses.

I wonder if she married Ambrose Angel, then he died, so she moved in with Ambrose Mist. The two Ambroses obviously knew each other well, as they lived together.

I've asked the poster to return with some feedback

Okay - so on the 1841 Ambrose Mist is living next to Ambrose Angell - 10 years old.

I seem to have crossed over here somewhere.

This looks like the explanation:

Ambrose William Angel married Harriet Hearsey - Midhurst - 1861


But I thought Ambrose was baptised in 1832 under the name of Mist.

Need to think about this one for a bit.

Any suggestions anyone?